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Old farts lookin for fast cars and loose women or loose cars and fast woman.
Mark, the $ difference is there but the power is there too. The gas - on the highway is as good if not better. The decibel level is much lower. The 8 purrs on the highway the 6 is throaty. I have to tell you I'm liking the lack of noise. Come on don't you wish you had a V8;-)
My power lust would be, I'm sure, completely satisfied with a 3.0T at 333HP and about 300+ pound feet of torque from 1900 RPM's on up.
Regarding gas milage, my issue, my circumstances is that I don't get on the freeway that much so I would be using more gas on the roads I drive on.
If Audi offered me a new 4.2 equipped car with barely a premium price over the V6, I'd probably bite.
BTW I am 56.
The problem with the 3.2 is having to use sport mode and really having to get on the pedal when you need to drive aggressive. That always sucks more gas.
The 4.2 is so smooth and refined with the extra power on tap, it doesn't take much effort when you need to be more aggressive.
If you do mostly in-town miles, you're not going to get much more than 19/20 in-town on the 3.2. I average 18 or so on my 4.2 around town. Easy 24-25 hwy.
It might cost me $35-50 or so extra a month in gas for the 4.2, and I don't think that's too much of a penalty for the awesome performace and driving experience.
Until we're at $4/gallon, that is.........
The truth of the matter,studies say, that we have enough US owned reserves for 400 years at present rates of consumption if we only have to supply 25% of our own oil.
That ought to be enough time to figure out an alternative.
We may all enjoy V8 power -- supply is not exactly the problem.
In the meantime, I'll pass on the V8, for I am convinced much higer gas prices are coming.
Now, back to Audis, already in progress.
@ 3.00 Gallon 20 mpg in city vs 17 mpg.
20 mpg is $150
17 mpg is $176
$26 difference
@ 4.00 Gallon 20 mpg in city vs 17 mpg.
20 mpg is $200
17 mpg is $235
$35 difference
@ 5.00 Gallon 20 mpg in city vs 17 mpg.
20 mpg is $250
17 mpg is $294
Even @ $5 gallon, that's $44 month more.
Not a huge difference in driving a 3.2 vs 4.2 A6
Have you found much difference in gas mileage over time by manipulating tire pressures in your 3.2 Audi?
And that's because of their high tax on gasoline.
Rear pressure = 36
I have never compared or contrasted, knowingly, the impact of manipulating the pressures.
I was "advised" to improve the handling of the car by the above pressures.
With respect to the V8, the Audi V8 is one of the best engines you can have, period.
The 3.2 V6 is also a very good engine -- but the V8 would be my choice were it not for the combination of the acquisition cost and the mileage.
Now, speaking ONLY for my own habits -- with the V8's (and I have had three Audi 4.2's and loved them) I found myself frequently "getting into the throttle" and consuming more fuel than would be normal if I didn't "punch it" -- but that is MY problem.
I actually enjoyed going from three V8's in a row to an Audi V6 2.7T connected to a 6 speed manual.
I suspect my upcoming fave engine will be the rumored 3.0T (333HP V6).
I love the instant torque of the Audi turbos.
Can anyone give me some input?
ANYONE EVER HEAR OF THIS?!?!?!? THANKS!
Davidreese90hotmail.com if anyone has any direct answers.
You need to have a complete diagnostic at an AUDI dealer who has the proper equiptment to check over everything.
You could have an electrical problem or short that's causing a drain on the battery.
the care has been treated immaculately, all records and the owners book stamped. The dealer wanted 23.9, he's now down to 20.9 I have a gut feeling the guy on the trade in (ya maybe a trade after reading this forum...dear lord) maybe got 15.5-16 on his trade...jsut a gut with the market value...like i said this car is in great shape, no wear on any of the plastic even...(saw it before it was detailed)...Obviously due to age I'm not going to get a CPO that old despite condition, do you think getting him down to 17.9-18.9 range and getting a extended warranty outside of his dealership is an ok deal....or even maybe thru him. I can see or feel anything wrong except for one item, there was a little steering wheel shake (about 45 or so not much different at 90mph), it felt like a balance issue, bearly noticable but there, non the less....My max on a new used audi would be around $27k....and I can throw a $1k-1.5k or so into maintenance a year if need be...First off is this a good deal? Secondly, I perfer the styling of the new body 05....but I can only afford 1st and 2nd gen (save some more and i have access to a friend whos a wholesaler..haven't got him looking yet as I'm not fully convinced im audi bound.)...anyways, am I better off without a few bells and whistles due to what i read in regards to all the electronic problems, also the turbo really helps with horses over the 3.2 up here in Colorado....any input would be appreciated....why can't these cars just be a little more dependable..oh yeah because then how would audi make all there money...
Darin
I have been very pleased with Audi reliability (except the 2000-2001 rotors -- and 47K is young.
However, IF it does break, it will likely be breathtakingly exepensive if it turns out to be related to the turbo/engine.
I also am a fan of the color combo -- the price, however, at this juncture seems a few thou too high.
Get it down below 19 or 18 and I think you will be fine.
Self insure (keep some $ in reserve for "warranty" purposes and get the balancing taken care of.)
X Audi. TPMS light would come on everytime I start the car. Resetting TPMS didn't help. I called Santa Monica Audi and was told to take the car to any Audi service center.
I took to car to other dealership and was told horrible things. They said TPMS sensors are not installed and tires are not original tires which should be Conti or Michelin. Installed are General Tires.
Can it be possible any dealership will take parts off to keep and replace original tires with lower quality ones? If they really did what should I do? Should I contact Better Business Bureau?
Dealership is in Ca and I live in NJ.
Go back to the Audi dealer you bought it from and they should replace them.
Only way you may be out of luck is if this car was sold used, and the previous owner changed them out.
Only way you may be out of luck is if this car was sold used, and the previous owner changed them out.
I agree.
Only way you may be out of luck is if this car was sold used, and the previous owner changed them out.
That's not the only way he's out of luck. He said he purchased it in January '07. It's May '08 and he's just now bringing this up?? :confuse: The dealership is going to lay all the blame on him at this point because so much time has passed that it's easy for them to say he changed out the tires. Though, the tires themselves have no bearing on the TPMS function.
Also, anybody know a good online source for routine maintenance items for Audi vehicles?
Dealer wants nearly 20.00 for 1 NGK sparkplug for it!!!! :surprise:
-Paul
The dealers are the most expensive however they are in business for the next 4 years. Any reputable dealers?
Michael
Which one would you drive?
04 twin-turbo 2.7T S-line. Can you tell me what's so special about it?
This car with its high output (especially the torque) engine is one fine sheen. Capable of easy and inexpensive upgrades (like a mild stage one "chip") it is also a tuners dream VEEE Hickle, too.
Sline trim was a nice addition too in that year.
In fact the only thing I can think of that makes this less than "perfect" is the five speed tiptronic yours almost certainly has.
You are driving a classic A6, a sleeper sedan hot rod -- one of the best ever.
At least for its time.
All 08 models have S line exterior standard. 18 inch 5 arm wheels, painted rear lower diffusor (was black plastic), more aggresive lower front spoiler and S line grill and interior badging are now included @ N/C.
The S line interior is $2000 extra, and that gives you the birch trim, sport seats, sport wheel and shifter.
This is what I was offered by Audi
6 cyl quattro AWD, premium pkg, tech package, S line interior pkg, music interface, nav system, 19" wheels, sport suspension, without any state taxes fees etc cost $46,704 with .9% APR.
Seems like a fair deal to me
I don't know if you're still reading these message boards, but I'm curious about the result from your brake pad and catalytic converter issues. Coincidentally, I'm having the same issue right now. The difference is mine is a '02 A4, with about 77,000 miles.
I had 80,000 mile preventative 4 weeks ago. Then, 3 weeks ago, the brake pad waring light came one. I took it back to the dealer and was told by my Audi Service technician that my brakes are good and to ignore the warning light. Then, at the end of last week, the MIL light came on. I took my car in yesterday, and this morning I'm told that the reset it, my car passed the trouble test, and that I can come pick it up without repair (like you said, they require 2 failures). This all just seems wrong.
What was your outcome?
Even if they have spent total 9 weeks to figure out and been trying to resolve the issue the car has, still they have not resolved the issue. Now what can i handle this situation?
I am very skeptical to keep that. In order to evade a lemon law, they have not wanted to release the car before they confirm that the issue is resolved.
This means that I may drive a4 several weeks more.
I am really regretting about purchasing a A6 instead of lexus GS series ( expected better reliability).
the best thing I want is to return and purchase another brand.
Any suggestion for this situation would be appreciated.
Thanks a ton.
The 09 A4 is very attractive and similar in size to the A6. Or if you like the Euro feel there are others that are compelling (C class, 5 series etc)
This is assuming you could get out of your existing situation. I would followup with the lemon law; 9 weeks is unacceptable
It's difficult to stay with a brand after a bad (terrible) experience
That said, I do as much as I can myself. I replaced her brakes myself easily. I do the oil changes (the filter is on TOP and easy to get to) and I have a fluid extractor to get the oil out, but I can put it on wheel ramps to get the remaining oils out. The ONLY thing hers will see the dealer for is if something breaks.
-Paul
Mike
Tell us more about your A6. Were you looking to add a car or did something just work out for you? You do still have your Azera?
Actually...unloaded the '07 Saturn Outlook which was our 2nd vehicle, so we needed to replace it. So...it was really a move to scale back, however...walking into this deal, it was hard to walk away from it. Not to mention, it made the wife happy, so it was a win/win deal!!!
We started looking Thursday evening and came across one that was just in terrible condition. The salesman said, "Yeah...she's a tomboy, but when you take her out to run...she'll show you just how she can go." Sorry...I'll pass. The 2nd one was actually a twin of the one we ended up buying, but with 30K more miles and a cigarette smell on the inside. We left, but kept it on our list.
Friday morning, our first stop was where we found the one we bought. The exterior was practically pristine to be honest. Hard to believe it was an '04 with 63K miles. Got in and interior was immaculate, no worn buttons, no buttons or knobs broken and the rear seats don't even look like they've been sat in. Front seats have, but don't look like they are 5 years old at all (actually better condition than the leather in my 3 year old Azera). Carfax showed only 2 previous owners and the maintenance was kept up faithfully. That final push was that the wife fell in love with it. Took it for a test spin and everything was just so easy to fall in love with...I actually want one for myself! LOL
The only negative thing we've found is that it didn't have the 2nd remote key and the rear speakers don't work (non-Bose system) which isn't a problem for me as I intended to upgrade the sound system anyway. :shades:
I still have my Azera, as the plan is to drive it till the wheels fall off (sounds good, right?).