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how many miles do you have on your car?? the more miles the better gas mileage you'll get.
This was before the battery was replaced.
After the battery replacement I started of getting 18 mpg in the same driving conditions.
Now it has slowly reached 22.5 mpg. Hopefully in another month it might get back to 24.xx
Looks like it acts like a new car after the battery is replaced.
like the r/t forum, this one sure is getting slow! is everyone on vacation?
Does anyone know what the codes mean on those NHTSA reports?
I have the upgraded Infiniti sound systems and my 95 Altima sounds better that that does.
Sorry for so many topics but I have been away for a long time.
there is no way that a battery would affect mpg. all i can figure is that when your battery was replaced it reset your average mpg and it has been gradually going up with more highway miles than city miles...i'm presuming you're using the overhead readout for your numbers?
Sometimes the dash lights in my 2000 Intrepid flicker, as well. There are 2 things that could cause this. First, I think the electric fan cycles on and off to maintain the temperature on the car, and that put a drain on the electrical system. I use this car part time to deliver pizzas, and when certain idiots- er, I mean customers take too long to come to the door and the car sits idling, I can hear it cycling on and off.
Second, the lights may flicker when you have the a/c on and the compressor cycles on. I have a 1968 Dart that does this, but really haven't noticed with the Intrepid. When my light flicker, it's not enough to really notice, unless it just happens to catch my eye.
Had my mudflap ripped free of the car--and the fascia mildly bent--while going through a car wash the other day. I admit it--I have used a soft cloth car wash on occasion. Kind of cool though, the kid operating it said..."hey do you use, like Zaino, or something?" They agreed to replace the mudflap and have the fascia repaired--very minor stuff.
Only car related concern I have is that my seat has started to "shift" occasionally when I'm rousting about. It's intermittent--sometimes it will move (about 1/2") and other times it won't. I seem to someone else had a similar problem. As a species we linebackers have never been particularly "gentle" to seats. End of story...
do you have an electric seat?
homerkc,
that's great mileage! i hope mine continues to improve. i too have a 2.7 liter AND i typically drive about 78 on trips. i have about half as many miles on my car as you do. are you from the kc area? i'm in wichita.
Emale--10,000 out of work comedians and one has to post here (wink)...... Actually it would skip on all CD's (some more than others), which was the cause of my original complaint. Odd but predicatable given my prior experience with Mitsubishi sound systems. Interestingly my seat seems to shift toward the rear and "up" slightly..
Homerkc.. That is impressive mileage. I often wondered what the difference would be with the 2.7. Thanks for sharing the information.
Back in April, I went on a trip on Skyline drive in VA, my car loaded with 4 people and a trunk full of luggage, and was only getting 23-25. The little 2.7 didn't really go to well with all those inclines. The car handled great, just couldn't accelerate too well.
That's another thing I've noticed with my car. With just one or two people in it, acceleration is fine. Add a third or fourth, though, and I can really feel the strain, even on level ground.
But oh well, nothing's perfect. Interestingly, though, I remember my grandparents taking a trip across the country when their '85 LeSabre was new. They said on one stretch, they averaged about 29 mpg on a tank of gas, somewhere out west. I wonder if that's really possible or maybe grandmom just calculated wrong. That bugs me that something with almost twice the displacement would get almost the same highway mileage as me! (of course, that car, with 150K miles, doesn't get that now!!)
-Andre
I have found it interesting that the 2.7L DOHC engine has a lesser mpg rating (EPA est.) than the 3.2L SOHC. At first, I thought this was a mistake and the numbers were switched. But, I guess the 2.7 has to work harder to produce the 200HP than the 3.2 rated at 225HP. The 2.7 also has a higher compression ratio which also helps to give it the highest HP/L ratio for a V6. Also, it is interesting that the 2.4L 4 in the PT Cruiser gets a lesser mpg rating. So I guess you can no longer assume that smaller is better when it comes to fuel economy.
where did you read that the epa rating for the 2.7l is lower than the 3.2l? i believe the 2.7l is rated one or two mpg higher than the 3.2l on both city and highway driving.
The current issue of CR compares some of the small cars one being the Intrepid mini, the Neon. Cr calls it a dull little car, unkown reliability as it is a new model. CR goes on to state the "old" neon had a very low reliability rating. From that info I gather the Neon must really be an Intrepid clone.
I have noticed that everyone mentions this as a dash light flicker.
In my case ..this is not an actual 'flicker' but more like switching between 'bright' and 'dim' settings every few seconds.
I have noticed that the behavior of the flicker is the same as turning the headlight switch to the off position and then after a few seconds to the ON position.
This means that everytime the dashlights come on brighter the headlight is also turning off (same as turning the headlight switch to 'off' position. After a few seconds I hear a click and the dashlights go dimmer and at the same time the headlight has come back on (same as turning the headlight switch to on position)
This problem happens only during the day with the headlights on (simulating DRL) and the interior dimmer setting (vertical switch next to headlight switch) to level 1.
How do I know the headlights going off during the day ? On a couple of occasions the flicker happened when I was waiting at a traffic light.
Everytime I heard the click and the dashlight flickered I could see the reflection of the headlight going 'OFF' and 'ON' on the car ahead of me.
Have you verified whether your flicker is affecting the headlights ..?
I am thinking it should because of the nature of the problem. I don't suspect this to be a component malfunction. It looks more like a software bug.
The dealership could not figure out the cause and I din't want them experimenting on the car.
I can live with the problem but in my office parking ramp it is mandatory to have the headlights on while driving at all times.
At this time ..my headlights keep on flickering (switching on and off every few seconds) because of the outside light falling in during day.
Hwy 7.5 litres/100km
City 11.7 litres/100km
Intrepid ES 2736cc 202hp @ 5800 rpm
Hwy 7.4 litres/100km
City 11.7 litres/100km
Intrepid R/T 3518cc 242hp @ 6400 rpm
Hwy 8.2 litres/100km
City 12.8 litres/100km
here are the epa numbers in a more readable format as opposed to jeffies post above:
2.7l 21/city 30 highway
2.7l (active intake - on es) 20/city 29 highway
3.2l 18/city 28 highway
3.5l 18/city 27 highway
i occasionally notice a quick flicker of my dash lights and a momentary dimming of the headlights but i don't think they are simultaneous with each other. however, i'm not sure, so i'll pay more attention next time i'm driving at night. this flicker/momentary dimming business is something i have noticed on every intrepid i've owned (96,98 and 00) so it seems to be the nature of this dodge/chrysler beast. however, i must admit there does seem to be something especially wacky with yours. it almost seems like yours is trying to act like it has automatic headlights and doesn't know whether to switch them on or off. and as i understand it, the only difference between an lxi concorde's manual headlights and the auto-on headlights in the 300m is the actual headlight switch. apparently everything you need for auto headlights is already resident in your lxi except for the proper headlight switch. so...maybe you need a new switch installed?? just a thought.
-Andre
email is right. IF you have automatic temperature control on your car, then all the wiring is there for the automatic headlights. All you have to do is purchase the "A" headlight switch for $90.85. I THINK that's what it cost Chrysler when they put it on my early model 300M that did NOT have it when it came from the factory.
Ask in the 300M topic area. I know that someone there knows.
fastdriver
i just checked my window sticker and the epa mileage is 19/28. and the car was built in october! the only difference i can remember between your car and mine is that i have the moonroof and also the cold weather package (batter and block heater). surely those two items wouldn't be enough to drop the mileage?? then again...
i prefer to drive new, only because i know where that car has been, plus you have a full warranty and the benefit of any upgrades that have occurred. however, you can get used intrepids for a real good price since resale has been somewhat dismal. if you decide to go new, you might as well wait until the 01s are out which will be in a couple weeks. i believe dodge has already put some incentives on those cars but i'm not sure. plus, there are supposed to be some changes like the addition of a side air bag option.
Jay T
00 IR ES
I totally agree with emale the resale of the Intrepid is dismal, the quality is dismal, dependability is dismal, in fact the Intrepid is just another very ordinary car suitable for the anything will do crowd.
i'm sure you can smell a rat, eh!
jason, et al...
just caught a glimpse of the new stratus coupe. not bad!! if it were a tad bigger it would be the perfect intrepid coupe! its front and especially rear end styling remind me alot of the intrepid...definitely not a bad thing!
I've had to get some things fixed on the car, but nothing so far due to any fault of the car itself. Things like a flat tire, bumper damage from rear-ending another car, broken door handle from an attempted break-in, disconnected parking brake handle from Circuit City alarm installation (which they had to come out and fix on the spot because the car was stranded).
My mileage has ranged from a low of high 18's to around 30. I'll probably put about 30K miles a year on this car, so it'll have around 150K when it's paid off (If I don't trade it in by then)
We have another delivery driver who has a 1997 Intrepid ES with about 80K miles on it. He says he's never had a bit of trouble on it. I've heard a lot of complaints about the first generation (1993-1997) LH cars, but have also heard a lot of praise for them, too. I guess there are some good ones out there.
Personally, the only bad Mopar experience I've had was a 1988 Lebaron turbo coupe that was junkyard-ready in almost every respect by around 118K miles. Turbo was shot, head had just been replaced, rest of engine was about to go, a/c was gone, paint worn through to bare metal but still shiny in other spots, headliner falling down, broken power antenna, and a trip computer/electronic gauge cluster that would lie to you about almost anything.
If I had it to do over again, the only other car I might consider would be an Impala, but only for its bigger engine and more legroom up front. I'm 6'3", and find the Intrepid to be a bit short in legroom up front with the standard seats, but a power seat could be adjusted so that it would be comfortable for me.
Anyway, good luck with your purchase.
-Andre
-Andre
andre> man! you're really stacking the miles on!
agree completely. the intrepid is an awesome design that is standing the test of time very well. the troll who says it isn't is always trying to elicit some sort of response by posting the same garbage - over and over! oh, and about internal reviews, i'm still chuckling over that one!
When I deliver pizzas, I get little kids oohing and ahhing over the car all the time. When's the last time a little kid got excited about a 4-door family car??
-Andre
I haven't driven a 3.2, or an ES with the 2.7 with its additional 2 horsepower, so I can't comment on how much better they perform. I've seen performance figures somewhere before, but don't quote me on this...
2.7 base: 0-60 9.5 seconds
3.2 ES: 0-60 8.5 seconds
3.5 R/T: 0-60 7.8 seconds
-Andre
Can't explain the EPA stickers?? Go figure! Perhaps something in the northeast emissions vs. other locations? I saw a bright silver Stratus R/T coupe at a local dealer two weeks ago. Very very attractive. Salesman said it ran and handled well too.
Regarding the dated design comment...Consider the source. When will we all learn not to encourage petulent children....
Joe
the couple of rats you mention are in actuality just one! a rat with many names, a few of which he can no longer use!