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The result for the Sentra came from ineto6's link. The results for the Civics came from Edmunds' tests of the 2001 Civics, both with a 5-sp.
Boy this is getting interesting. I LIKE IT, I LIKE IT! Edmunds also did a comparison test of the 2000 Sentra against 8 other vehicles including the Honda and Toyota. Both the Honda and Toyota finished at the bottom of the pile. In that test, only the 150 hp Chevy Cavalier and the Hyundai Elantra was faster to 60 MPH. The Cavalier has a 2.4L engine. 0 to 60 times are so subjective, so it is better to drive what feels best to you.The best time I saw for a Honda Civic was 10.4 seconds....hardly faster than the Sentra.
That truck analogy was very good, and it sure opens up a new group of theories. I could site the 89 Thunderbird Supercoupe I owned that had a supercharged 3.8L 6 cylinder 210 hp engine. But because of the supercharger and intercooler, the engine made 315 lbs of torque. My automatic 92 5.0L V8 Mustang always got the jump on the Thunderbird from a take-off, but it was not long before the Thunderbird would overtake and pass the Mustang. I believe that the boost increased the horsepower, but the torqued did the work. By the way, the 315 lbs of torque was fully developed at 2600 rpm....way down LOW!
This could go on for ages, and makes for very interesting reading. By the way hkchan, did you get a Sentra, or was it the Mazda Protege? I can't remember right now, but I seem to remember your name in another discussion a while back. Best of luck to you, whatever you drive. I love my Sentra.
By the way, someone was right about that J.Lo thing. Guess I better keep up with the times, right? She looks good regardless of what you call her....I stand corrected.
GSEREP1
I remember back in the old days of Pro Stock drag racing. There was a driver by the name of Ronnie Sox, and he drove a new Dodge Challenger. At that time he was considered the fastest manual shifter in the business. What he could do with a fast car and a race track was legendary. I see different times on the same vehicle all of the time in magazines. This is the stuff that arguments are made of. Cars perform differently at different altitudes and temperatures, and yes...even DRIVERS. We have to take into consideration the condition of the car, and whether it was performing up to specs on that particular day. Some are better and some are worse. A brand new car, not fully broken in will sometimes perform worse than a car with a few thousand miles on it. While a car that has been beaten to death by a handful of magazine writers MAY have a slipping clutch, or transmission, or a misfiring cylinder, or any number of things that throw the numbers off THAT DAY! Have you ever driven a car that SEEMED faster, but actually was not that fast? Kids in cars with loud mufflers and lowered chassis's sure SEEM faster, but ARE they?
Some cars USED to be specially prepared for car magazine drivers (remember "ringer cars")? These cars achieved numbers that the average Joe could never duplicate. That is why cars are sometimes torn down after a race to ensure that things are "legal".
There are a lot of variables involved when testing cars for zero to 60 times. THIS is why I feel the numbers are so subjective.
By the way, I drove that ES 2.0 Protege before I got the Sentra. I liked that too, but I liked the Sentra just a BIT better. That ES 2.0 was the BEST driving Protege I ever drove. Remember, I used to SELL Proteges and Grand Am's back in 1995.
Thanks again,
GSEREP1
Sentra
Car & Driver 8 seconds
Motor Trend 7.9 seconds
Auto Week 7.86 seconds
Honda Civic EX
Car & Driver Nov 2000 8.4 seconds
Motor Trend Dec 2000 9 seconds
Auto Week 8.19 seconds
Like I said, I don't know how Edmunds tests cars, but I've also noticed they seem to be way off on other models as well.
I am like you. I have driven these cars so many times before I bought my car, there is no way I could have made that big a mistake. The Sentra was CONSISTENTLY faster than the Civic in both manual and automatic versions. I TRIED to justify the extra cost and loss of horsepower to get the increased resale value the Honda has, but I just COULDN'T buy it after comparing it to the Sentra. The driving experience was just that much better...NO offense to ANY Honda owner. They are both great cars, BUT the 2.0L Sentra is FASTER, PERIOD!
Good Luck to you again, and THANKS!
GSEREP1
So I'm sure in real-world driving, the SE would be *considerably* quicker and more responsive than a Civic LX or EX, which are also weak on torque, but don't have the Si's high-end power either.
>I'm just wondering if any current Sentra owners
>out there can comment on the car's ride...
Excellent accelleration, great braking, absorbs bumps on the road well (disclaimer: I rode public transport for years before I bought the car), smooth steering.
>comfort (engine, road noise)
Engine noise tends to be a soft, background-type noise. Road noise is minimized so much that I sometimes open windows to determine where the other traffic is!
>and reliability so far
No problems were encountered in just over 500 miles of driving.
I have had my car for a few weeks now, and I am not conscious of it anymore. I don't rest my hand on the gearshift once I have completed shifting, so it is not a problem. It is not severe anyway. If you like the power of the SE, then by all means GO FOR IT!
GSEREP1
Instead of replacing the lock cylinder, what I would rather do is be cheap and swap the two cylinders, so the smooth one is on the driver's door.
Can this be done? Does Nissan use different cylinders for the different doors, or is it the same part number?
I just bought my new Sentra SE during Memorial Day weekend, and I had 30 to choose from. In San Diego, there are 6 NISSAN dealerships...5 of them owned by the same company, and 1 dealer independent of the other 5. I looked at about 40 in this area, but could not settle on a good price, so I went north to San Francisco area. There were a bunch there.
I am a former resident of New Orleans,Louisiana (born there)....and have relatives in Mississippi, from McComb and Liberty up to Jackson, and while visiting recently, I did not see very many Sentras there OR in New Orleans.
I am at a loss as well. COME ON OUT WEST, and get one if they cannot get you what you want. LOL
Take care!
GSEREP1
I bought my Sentra SE 5 speed w/ performance package, no roof, Just floor mats and in cabin microfilter for 15,101 + tax and license in Petaluma, California. They had 30 to choose from, and MOST were 5 speeds.
Most of the dealers I visited had more 5 speeds than automatics.
Thanks,
GSEREP1
By the way, is the 5.9% interest rate still on for June?
I'll bet that it is. They need to sell a few more 2001's before the 2002's get here.
Unfortunately to the average European, the fact that 92% of cars in the US are automatics, supports the "lazy American" stereotype. Even police cars in Europe are typically 5spds. Can you imagine the police in the US being told they have to start driving cars with 5spds?
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Please keep us informed on the recalls on the suspension bolts. I am very much interested in that bit of info. I did not buy the FOCUS because it also had recalls....(and was not as good as the Sentra in my view).
I will ask my dealer, and check in NHTSA as well.
THANKS,
GSEREP1
I checked with by dealer about this recall, they said yes, it is a recall part on some Sentras and not all Sentras. They advised me to call 1-800-nissan with the VIN to find out exact recall. Nissan will start sending out notices from next week.
What a bummer!!!!!! I am having 2001 Sentra Se.
Thanks
I have a few rattles I want to get rid of and was hoping this might help.
I got a copy of the recall notice from my local dealer. The notice indicated that 3600 vehicles had been repaired under a Voluntary Safety Recall Campaign.This included 1800 vehicles repaired by Nissan prior to delivery to Nissan dealerships and 1800 at Nissan dealerships.
Prior to owner notification Nissan wants to ensure an adequate supply of parts are available.Owners will begin to be notified on June 18.
Dealers will receive an initial allotment of 30 bolts by Thursday June 14.
One last item that concerns me is...
Nissan is requesting that dealerships not place any orders for these bolts since they are currently on sales restriction.
Maybe somebody knows what that means...
Bolt part number(54459-4Z400)
This worries me -- specifically because I'm from Chicago, and when the lock cylinder froze on one side during winter, I always had the other side as backup, even if my car battery was dead (i.e., useless keyfob).
The last thing I need is to be locked out of my car with a dead battery, unable to get inside and jump it without breaking a window.
So is this missing door lock a change done throughout north america, or just in some regions -- and can I order a 2000 door handle and internal pieces to add the lock? Two dealerships said "we dunno, and we dunno who to talk to about it".
With regards to the availability, I too was surprised to find find a good selection of SEs with manual. No SE manuals with ABS though. That's a tougher combination to find. I figured that LA area dealers would order very few manuals.
When I bought my first car in Maine about 2 years ago, I found a lot of 5spds in dealer lots. I guess people prefer 5 spds in Maine. At a Subaru dealership, they only had about 3 automatic Outbacks, out of about 25. At a Honda dealer, I found the same thing. Lots of 5spds. It's difficult to find 5spds on some models here in Calif, but others are easier. 5spds are easier to find on Civics, Accords, and Integras, and other sporty cars and sedans. I was also trying to find a Camry LE V6 5spd but was thoroughly unsuccessful. Outbacks here are 99% automatic. I think it also depends on the dealer's attitude towards 5spds. My dealer, Performance Nissan, had a good selection of 5spds for all Nissan products, including the Pathfinder.
Pls email me directly at: joseph.collins@telus.com
I'm also considering waiting for the new MP3 version in a few wks time OR the upcoming new
civic hb si (160 hp) due in early 2002 or the bland but quiet and reliable toyota corolla...also considering the new 2001 nissan sentra se (2.0 liter, 145 horses).
My question for your mazda protege 2.0 litre owners: is the protege quiet at hywy speeds and is it a comfortable cruiser for long period hywy cruising?...also any likes/dislikes would be appreciated to hear of.
Cheers,
Joe Collins
Vancouver BC Canada
Does anyone know the resale value of a 5 speed manual drive sentra as opposed to an automatic Sentra ? Is it significantly higher/lower/does not matter. just curious !!
Thanks.
My battery was drained two days ago, I recharge it and it works fine. But now the Air bag light blinks all the time. Any suggestions
2001 Sentra SE, PP, radio with CD Standard. Owned since 10/00.
Radio is getting static on AM. Distant and not so distant channels
I hear clicking / loud static. Comes and goes, especially going over
bumps while at high speed, not as much at low speed. Static most but
not all the time is engine rpm type noise (goes up and down with rpm).
Periodic, comes and goes like loose wire.
Dealer said antenna was loose - no use. Current direction is to
replace radio (dealer has ordered new and reman one to install -
taking very long to get it though).
Question - Does this sound like radio problem? Or power supply to
radio? Anyone else have this problem? Any suggestions? Please don't
tell me to listen to FM only, I paid for AM too!!
Thanks for any help or perspective.
Where can I find Nissan recall information?
Thanks.
I thought that it was supposed to set on its own & lock the doors automatically.
Am I wrong? How does yours work?
mousemover1, to set the alarm you have to press "lock" on keyfob when all doors are already locked.
A used 2000 Nissan Sentra with automatic transmission will cost you about $700 more than the same model with manual transmission.
Understand that is the cost that one source I have gives. That is not the value of what it would be worth to a dealer for your car to have automatic and not manual.
Personally, I like rowing my own gears even in rush hour traffic, but that is just me.
http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/problems/recalls/recmmy1.cfm
NHTSA CAMPAIGN ID Number: 01V174000
Component: SUSPENSION:INDEPENDENT FRONT CONTROL ARM:LOWER
Manufacturer: NISSAN NORTH AMERICA, INC
Potential Number of Units Affected: 80000
Year: 2001
Make: NISSAN
Model: SENTRA
Manufactured From: JUL 2000 To: APR 2001
Year of Recall: '01
Type of Report: Vehicle
Summary:
Vehicle Description: Passenger vehicles. One or more of the three bolts used to attach each front suspension lower control arm to the body on the left and right sides may not have been properly manufactured.
The bolts could fracture, increasing the risk of a crash.
Dealers will replace the lower control arm attachment bolts. Owner notification is expected to begin by the end of June 2001. Owners who take their vehicles to an authorized dealer on an agreed upon service date and do not receive the free remedy within a reasonable time should contact Nissan at 1-800-647-7261. Also contact the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration's Auto Safety Hotline at 1-888-DASH-2-DOT (1-888-327-4236).
A comfort for those '01 Sentra owners who also considered buying those cars before:
Recall: '01 Civic, 2 times
Recall: '01 Focus, 2 times
Recall: '01 Protege, 1 time
So don't regret choosing Sentra. It's a very good car for your money.