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Regarding heated seats, my back and butt are both warm when I sit in mine. I am an '05 TL 6 sp owner. It's a world of difference in performance vs. the automatic.
I suppose there is some misinformation on these boards, but the majority was very useful to me in my car search. I've noticed a certain amt of self-policing going on....some of the regulars call out B.S. when they see it.
Good luck in your search. All your choices are nice cars.
I think there are misinformations. If I had a problem with the car, I would ask for a solution from the folks at this forum or go to the dealer for more specific problems. That is what normal people do when they have a problem, right!. But the way I see it, the poster just complain and complain and then bashing and bashing. The complaints even come from people who dont even have one. If I were in that situation, I just get rid of the car and move on. Genuine complaint do exist thou, unfortunately not all of them
Sometime you get a solution from people who dont own acura but others. And the solution is "Stop buying Acura"
I believe there isnt a perfect car for everybody. IMO TL is not a perfect vehicle that can please anyone.
Good luck with you research.
This car is MUCH quieter than my late, lamented (yes, still) '99 Chrylsler M. Biggest difference is wind noise, barely noticeable even at 60+mph. Couldn't say that about the M. Also, great smooth power delivery and I'm still overloaded with audio choices! Car is, and feels, smaller than the M, which was another trait I was looking for in my next car.
'21 Dark Blue/Black Audi A7 PHEV (mine); '22 White/Beige BMW X3 (hers); '20 Estoril Blue/Oyster BMW M240xi 'Vert (Ours, read: hers in 'vert weather; mine during Nor'easters...)
Lot's of info on vibration.
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Webby
Yes, I have seen the 3rd Gen. forum. I guess the misinformation question goes to that one too. I just seems a little over the top, maybe because the unfortunate unsatisfied owners hang around a long time complaining again and again.
I do still feel for those who have legitimate gripes. I wish everyone could be as happy as laurasdad.
My question is, is it the tires or the car? Has anybody who used to have vibrations with the Bridgestons, especially in the 50-60 mph range, and replaced them with the Michelins, did it solve the problem?
I too have an 04 TL bought dec 03. They replaced my tires with the new set of of EL 42's but I still feel the vibration problem. I don't know what to do next either...
Although the TSX is a very nice piece of work, I didn't consider it. I really wanted the style and horsepower of the TL. I'm not actually sure the TL is "worth" the extra ~$5K, but it was to me. I do know the Mercedes E320 ain't worth the extra ~$15k over the TL. But I did really enjoy the E...
'21 Dark Blue/Black Audi A7 PHEV (mine); '22 White/Beige BMW X3 (hers); '20 Estoril Blue/Oyster BMW M240xi 'Vert (Ours, read: hers in 'vert weather; mine during Nor'easters...)
BTW, I haven't done anything radical enough to test the effectively of the stability control. I think the VSA on the TL is programmed not to intrude too early.
My brother has an '04 IS300 with snow traction control. IMO TL works the same way like the IS.
While not a huge problem, it's disappointing how much of this residue is left on the paint when the dealer removes the exterior plastic. It'd be nice if Honda/Acura would use a different material that came off cleanly.
As an aside, I had a 00 Maxima that had Toyo all seasons that handled the snow very well.
http://www.autopia-carcare.com/inf-clay.html
http://www.customrodderweb.com/tech/0409cr_mothers2/
http://store.auto-geek.net/wg8000.html
My brother lives in colorado, Denver to be exact. His prev car was Mazda6. I have never seen the car yet nor driven it. He just bought it 3 weeks ago and been out in the snow since. Colorado has been hit by snow more often than where I live.
He said good things about the snow mode the vehicle has. His mazda6 had 1 major accident that cost his insurance $14k and 2 minor accidents due to tires or its allignment. I cant actually say its better or at least the same thou but he keeps driving the car more safely.
In heavy snow, you have to turn stability control off, or you'll never get anywhere..
Once you are moving on slick roads, however, stability control works wonders...
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I did read up on how to achieve the fastest take-off from a dead start, though.... hmmm.. wonder why?
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1) Push DSC button once..
2) Slide auto selector to manual, then click forward to get M1.
3) Take hand off shifter, put two hands on wheel.
4) Mash the pedal and say, "WWWHHHEEEEEEEEE"
But, traction control is still on...
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I have the all-season floor mats. Each time I get into the car with snow, slush, etc... the floor mats get wet. So far so good.
My pant legs are constantly hanging in the salty, dirty water that accumulates. Anybody have the same problem? What do you do about it?
I pull my pant legs up a little after I get in.
And, are these the Pilot A/S? becuz on tirerack, the OE's they talk about are the Pilot HX MXM4, are not rated as well. ? thx.
I'll see how the tires continue to handle this winter. Other than that, I'm really enjoying the quite ride and smooth, strong power delivery! Of course, I can't keep the car clean with our crazy N.E. weather, which always drives me nuts! And I still have no intention of paying for XM. Nice, but far from necessary.
'21 Dark Blue/Black Audi A7 PHEV (mine); '22 White/Beige BMW X3 (hers); '20 Estoril Blue/Oyster BMW M240xi 'Vert (Ours, read: hers in 'vert weather; mine during Nor'easters...)