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It stands to reason (in my mind) that they will. This segment is very competitive and I think most consumers will countinue to need the extra incentive to purchase a vehicle from a brand on its way out.
I would ask my local dealer what they think, but I know what they will tell me: whatever it takes to get me to take one of the remaining 2001's of their hands. Well, no way Jose. I want a 2002.
Oh, and what kind of gas mileage does the 2.2 get?
I don't understand how you expect to force GM into responding as long as you are keeping your fans informed of the situation..
They monitor these websites; so why should they give you the satisfaction of buckling under to your demands????
I assume you have been through the BBB procedure and were offered arbitration process??
Better hurry cause these cars are soon to be history..
Sell it or trade it in on something else, for after awhile it starts to consume too much energy and it's non-productive!!!!
Then I rented a 2000 Grand Am, 4dr for the weekend: holy cow, this is nice. Handles really well, good interior noise, no rattles at 52,000km and I'm getting 35mpg at 65-70mph with the A/C on. Bloody right !
I was sure I wanted a Grand Am, then I figured out that the Alero is built on the Grand Am platform at the same factory in Lansing, Michigan. So I test drove a 2000 Alero. Well, if the Grand Am had good seats, those in the Alero were simply superb for long distances - very firm and supportive. That's just based on our test drive, though. And the Alero doesn't have the round vents (I find these a bit of a hassle to direct - maybe my thinking is too Euclidian?), has bigger map pockets, and rear seats that can be dropped from inside the car instead of from the trunk. I just generally prefer the console layout and I can see the Cruise Control ON lamp even in direct sunlight.
We take delivery Wednesday evening.
It'll be interesting to see if I can get the same gas mileage with this car as I got with the 3.4L Grand Am rental. Keeping my fingers crossed.
With the 3.4l V6, I get between 23 to 24MPG in my daily commute and about 29MPG on the highway.
Congrats on the new car.
To each his own I guess.
I few months ago I was posting here expressing my dissatisfaction with the gas mileage I was getting out of my GLS Alero.
Well, I've now got about 6000 miles on it, and I can't get any better than 15 to 17 mpg in the city! I've had the car inspected at two different dealers, and both gave told me everything was ok. I emailed Oldsmobile and they told me to take it to the dealer. The basic runaround.
Well, do I have a legitimate complaint? To me, 17 mpg, at best, is NOT acceptable. Who should I think of contacting if things do not begin to improve by 10,000 miles? I would have bought an SUV if I knew things were going to be this bad.
Thanks for all the replies.
Eric
If your city driving is truly large city downtown stop-and-go, you're never going to get fabulous mileage though.
AVOIDING ethanol blended fuel (which reduces fuel economy) as well as premium blends (which also will burn less efficiently in this car) will help improve economy too if you're using one of them now. Also, accelerating lightly and coasting from light to light rather than beating people through intersections and then braking heavily can make an amazing difference.
By the way, are you keeping it in 4th gear? Using third in city traffic can help response times, but these newer GM transmissions don't hunt like the old ones did (and thus you probably won't notice much of a difference by keeping it in fourth ALL the time).
Lastly, if you've got the V6, it's only city rated at 20mpg. That's only 3mpg higher than you're getting now (at 6K). Give it a little time yet.
The V6 is supposed to get 21 mpg, and with me at best getting 17 mpg, is 21% off. Not good...
BUT... I'll take the advice from you all and give it some more time. I bought it for my wife, and she likes it. She's not to interested in gas mileage. As long as I keep it cleen and filled with gas, she's happy.
Besides the wife is happy.
I would be interested in what other people have selected for replacement all-season tires. I'm only going to drive them in the late spring/summer/early fall, but I do want tires with at least some all-season capability as it's always hard to say when those first/last snowfalls/freezing rain will occur.
The things which are most important to me are: noise, ride quality, no tread squirm, good wet and dry handling/braking. I'm considering are: Pirelli P6000 SportVeloce, Michelin Pilot XGTH4, Yokohama Avid H4. I haven't figured out the alphabet soup of BF Goodrich's tire designations yet, so they'll probably have one or two models on my short list.
I'd be interested in Michelin X-One/Pirelli P400 Touring but I think I'll have to play with aspect ratios to see if any fit the 15" rims.
Unlike the original Michelin, the new BF Goodrich doesn't aquaplane, doesn't squeal, has a firmer grip and is much quieter. All that at 30% less than an equivalent Michelin is a no-brainer!
Also, does anybody know what the maintance cycle is for the suspension parts? The car doesn't seem to be riding as well over the rough roads very well. Could it be time to have it checked? BTW, the roads where I live are terrible...
Thanks
Sil
Most of the bigger vehicles seem to still have ABS ect. standard. I think the base Impala lost ABS though.
There's actually more tread on the rear tires than I remembered from the test drive, which is good as BF Goodrich T/A Touring SR4's in 215/60R15 run CDN$112 each at Canadian Tire. Man! I haven't driven them in the rain yet so I don't know how they'll perform there - unless in "hydroplaning" conditions, they should be OK. Boy, we haven't had any significant rain in months. Our areas at about 1/4 the average rainfall for August. At any rate, the tires on it have sufficient traction and minimal road noise up to 110 km/h, so they're sufficient for now. These tires are noticeably noisier on worn pavement, however.
As for winters, I'm getting 205/70R15 Michelin Arctric Alpins. My experience is to get a somewhat narrower winter tire if you can - they dig into deeper snow better and you get less spinning. And my experience with Arctic Alpins is just excellent, really a very good tire and cheap compared to insurance rates.
We went for a "round trip to nowhere" this evening, and I really am impressed with this car. Very smart design inside and out, and clever little features all over the place. Doesn't have the "boy racer" flashiness ahead of intelligent, tasteful design that I think the Grand Am has. Directional stability and handling are very solid, and at 41,700 km this car is really still very "tight". By far and away the nicest car my wife or I have ever owned. We're still trying to convince ourselves that it's ours.
Buying used through this GM dealer (Vic Bennet Chev-Olds, Carleton Place) had a lot of fring benefits. There were a couple of little things - trunk release not working, rattle in the back seat latch, broken clip - that they fixed when they did their inspection without any mention by me, as well as apparently doing an oil and filter (oil, air) change. And this thing is spotless down to the engine bay. A definite plus over buying privately or used car dealers, as I have in the past.
About its tires, they fare very, very well in hydroplaning conditions (by not planing at all!). I've liked them so much AAMOF that I've replaced the "floating" Michelin on my other car with BF Goodrich when its time came!
Good luck.
hear from any owners out there. Is is worth buying? What should I look for? Has anyone being able to negotiate a "cash price" along with reduced finance rates? It sounds like some of these posted messages are from dealer reps. I am not interested in the Company line but welcome all other input.
Thanks.
The V6 is a must have. I would try to avoid the L4, for it doesn't bring anything special to the table. IOW, it's a mediocre engine.
FWIW, the Alero is among the top 3 cars in its category per JD Power's initial quality survey.
As for "risk", if you're buying with the intention of selling the car rather than driving it into the ground, there's a definite higher depreciation risk. But, if you can get data from (e.g.) Edmund's that supports that, you're in a good bargaining position to get them to absorb that for you. If you're planning on keeping the car forever, I don't see how there is any risk really. GM has to guarantee parts availability for ten years, and many mechanical components are shared with the Grand Am.
Just my 2 Canadian cents worth.
Their prices are about 50% cheaper than what I've seen here, including allowing for currency exchange.
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Yucky fake wood
:^P
I think the new alloys look very nice.
The wood...I don't mind it on the door panels and on the console (actually I kind of think it looks nice THERE), but putting little wood "halos" around the vent outlets not only strikes me as ridiculous - it looks it too.
Now we know where GM put all those Aztek stylists after shooing them out of Pontiac. Ugh. On the plus side, maybe they'll offer a tenting package that attaches to the trunk or something neat like that.
Burdawq. Those "pods" are the map pockets with the speaker at the very front of them. Actually, the camera angle makes the footwells look far more narrow than they are. Compared to our old Corsica, there's a lot of leg room up front.
However, when the engine idles, I hear a squealing noise, apparently coming from the serpentine belt... What could this be?
TIA