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Are you following any special break in period for your van. The manual says not to drive over 55 till 300 miles. This seems a bit severe.
sounds fishy to me. however, any number of things can cause a temporary hold on production...certain paint colours, suppliers not able to supply parts, etc. anyway, if production is indeed on hold, it won't last long...
...I also have both
brochures but in checking KBB, they had
ES AWD with 17" tires.
Just wanted positive
info and you provided
that. Now I can take
my numbers and try to
make a deal...thanks
again!
As I'm sure you understood -- 29S non-AWD on the ES includes 17" wheels (I think); 29S AWD on the ES includes 16" wheels (for sure).
Good luck.
--rolfe.
I plan to change oil and filter at 1,000, then revert to recommended interval.
I'm considering changing tranny fluid early on also, since the tranny has been a chronic problem since 1989. I'll probably use a shorter service interval on it for the duration, since I consider it the weak link in the system.
--rolfe.
Since there is no sales tax in Oregon, the only other cost will be $43.00 to register and title the van.
Is this a good deal? It seems so, as this price is actually below invoice price. Any feedback would be appreciated. Thanks!
-Brians
I'd like to read more... does anyone have a pointer to reviews or studies? Does the use of synthetic oil change the oil-change interval?
Do you have to do anything special to make the switch-over, other than to drain the oil and change the filter?
As far as tranny fluid is concerned, I'm so nervous about the 41te transmission (having had one in my 1990 Caravan and reading too many horror stories), that I won't consider using anything but the DC recommended product, especially during the factory warranty period.
T&C Limited FWD - $31423
tow package - $149
heated seats - $213
quad seats with child seat - $106
engine block heater - $30
4 disc CD - $128
cargo net - ???
TOTAL - $32,049 + cargo net
So, I get $2,039 more than invoice
for your $34,088, unless I'm missing something, like you forgot to mention AWD or something.
Sounds like a line to me....feedback? Thanks.
I'm currently dealing for a Dodge Grand Caravan ES, and here in the Philadelphia area the costs are $210.00 for local advertising and $270.00 for national. My saleswoman is being obstinate about it, saying, "We pay it, so you pay it."
Well, I'd much prefer not to, and in fact deleting these fees would seal the deal for me. Any pointers on how to get it done?
Or, tell the salesperson you'll want to order a van from the factory - which will not need to be advertised, so there should be no fee (grin).
http://www.usatoday.com/money/columns/healey.htm
Please disregard the spelling errors in the last posting (#356). I am most embarrassed!
ruthw1 - I think I remember brians5 saying in a previous post that Oregon has no sales tax, and he was charged only $43.00 for license and registration. Delaware, too, has no sales tax but you must pay the 6% Pennsylvania tax when you register the car in this great Commonwealth. Plus, I've been quoted wildly varying license/registration fees, from $55.00 to $131.00. Every dealer is different, and charges what the market will bear above the state-mandated $26.50 title transfer fee.
Yes, Steve (gcintender) was right when he said Oregon has no sales tax. Zip, nada!
As far as registration goes, Oregon DMV charges $43.00 to title and register a new vehicle. (No matter what the value.)
Any fees over and above what your state actually charges for title and registration are dealer add-ons and should not be tolerated. Yes they will kick and scream like an insolent toddler, but don't give in. Tell them, as in the case of the customer loyalty fee and document prep fee, that if they must charge them, then it will have to eat into their profit, not your bottom line!
Incidentally, the "customer loyalty" fee as Chrysler calls it is...are you ready for this...a fee they charge to send you surveys as to how you liked your sales experience, any service experience etc. throughout the ownership of your van!! Isn't that a hoot! they charge you to send you surveys! I can't #$%@!! believe it!!
Steve, please let us know how your deal went. They (dealers) scrap with us over every cent, so don't you give them any more than you have to for DMV. Go dog go!!
-Brian
i'm not at all surprised that we get charged for surveys. afterall, nothing is for free now, is it?! just surprising that they haven't actually hidden this cost in somewhere else on the balance sheet.
Thanks
However, it is often possible to negotiate on the cost of any extended warranty - the actual price may be set at several times the projected repair cost, and remember that companies that deal with warranting more than one make of vehicle, can and do spread the risk between vehicles with historically expensive warranty claims (DaimlerChrysler minivans certainly qualify here) and vehicles with much lower warranty costs (like Toyota Camry models).
jcrider1,
check out this web site http://www.chryslerwarranty.com/ you might save a few dollars.
Also there are many places that sell extended warrenties. You can usually add these on anytime before the factory warranty expires.
If you don't mind me asking, what was the "out the door" price you paid for your 2000 T&C Limited AWD? (van, tax, registration, everything.)
BTW, thanks for the web site about extended warranties. Very interesting.
Thanks,
Brian
Thanks.
an Odyssey, why did you buy an extended warranty
for it???? Why did I buy it, because I know that in 7 yrs. I am bound to have some kind of problem with it that most likely will cost more than the warranty did now. In six yrs,I bet the labor rate to repair any car will be about $100. Won't take long to get my 885 back. I bet in 7 yrs most vehicles will have a large repair bill. But my Odyssey will have less than any Chyrsler Mini.
2001 DC vans--first year of production
Generally, third year production vehicles will have fewer problems than first year production vehicles. First year of redesign for Odyssey (1999) would be expected to have more problems then 2001 model year. Third/fourth year of production for DC vans (1999) would be expected to have fewer problems than first year (2001) models. But as you indicated, in the long run, who knows.
First fill up achieved 17mpg, some 100 miles from Vegas, mileage was 23.8mpg. Can't complain. This is my fourth Caravan and third 3.3 engine.
The 2001 is much quieter than the '96. Looking forward to at least five years of good rides. mnmvideomikey Las vegas
DaimlerChrysler's shares have fallen almost as if it were a dot.com of late - there sure won't be a lot of money around for new models if they don't move soon. They'll end up having to go back to the 80s "one platform for everything" model that saved them once.
with their 2001 van? Why are the same problems in
the 99 version are being experienced by the 00 and
especially to the 01 odyssey owners. I can ask
the same kind of questions with the D&C vans, plus
why are the D&C vans still flunking all the crash
tests year in and year out. The reason you don't hear much on the 01 D&C vans is they aren't selling enough to have problems with. People finally got smart and are buying Odysseys. Thats why they are putting rebates,low fin. on them. Give them a while and there will be plenty of problems. The odds are on my side, from past history.
what crash test have the dc minis flunked??
eneth,
i'd like to know where the 10 billion in cash reserves went that chrysler had before the merger! seems dc would rather throw money away on the smart car vs anything chrysler group does. or at least that is the way the media is portraying it...time will tell.
A bunch of Oddfiles attempting to hijack the DC topics.
Why don't the Odyssey owners do the rest of us a favor and work on keeping down the various noises coming from over in Honda Odyssey Problems Part VI before we have to call the cops.
dmatthews3, have fun with your van. It hasn't proven to be reliable just yet. How are DC minivans flunking crash tests? Flunking a crash test is getting poor ratings like 1 star from NHTSA or IIHS ratings. Say the facts, don't make assumptions on what you think is right. Just because you read someting from a magazine article or see something on TV doesn't make your opinion superior. Your humor doesn't make sense. Why can't you answer why Odysseys are experiencing the same problems time and time again? Even after the 3rd year of production?
A few postings ago, you wanted to know some opinions on buying vs. leasing.
Consumer Reports has done several studies and articles on the subject. I don't know right off hand what issue the last article was in, but if you go to the index in any issue of their latest magazine, I'm sure you will find it.
Generally, in the car biz they refer to leasing as "fleecing" because that is exactly what they do to you. In most cases, leasing is not as financially prudent as purchasing.
By the way, $500.00 under invoice is a good deal on the van.
Hope this helps,
-Brian