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The '99 Millennia S I've bought 2 weeks ago had catalitic converter replaced twice to eliminate egg smell in the car. Yesterday I had the same problem, but I don't think it was converter. It seems to me that that it's the A/C that stinks. My dealer's telling me that it's common problem with all Millenias. Did anyone else had the same problem? Is there a solution?
TIA
Egg smell is almost always from cat converter, unless someone lost a wet diaper under the seat.
:-)
As for spark plugs, I don't know what they use on the 2.5V6, but I did use platinum on my '93 626ES last time and it works fine. BTW, don't ever buy the platinum spark plugs from the dealership, they overchange wayyyyyy to much for it.
Cal state:
Bosch platinum plugs are in no way comparable to NGK OE platinum plugs. The electrode size is totally different so that the change interval is a true 60k miles. I'm a big fan of sticking with OE parts unless you enjoy parts swapping.
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SPARK PLUG for a
1999 MAZDA MILLENIA
BOSCH-PLATINUM+4 4418 $5.99
** ALREADY GAPPED FROM THE FACTORY - DO NOT RE-GAP **
** PRICE DISPLAYED IS FOR (1) PLUG **
BOSCH-PLATINUM 4230 $1.99
BOSCH-SUPER 7562 $0.99
SPLITFIRE SF522D $3.99
CHAMPION 318 $1.29
MOTORCRAFT 445 $1.39
DENSO
STANDARD PLUG 3132 $1.59
DENSO
STANDARD PLUG 3169 1 YR $1.59
CAN ALSO BE USED
At the time I got $6500 in rebates plus an additional dealer discount of $1500, all that was showing online was the $2500 customer rebate. The Tampa Tribune has ads showing Millenia for $18995, plus freight and $995 down or trade. I don't know what else might show up at the dealer. But they are also showing $16000 to $17000 Camry's, so something is amiss.
To let you all in on a secret-I am trying to get my wife to trade in her 1994 Toyota Camry for a 2002 Millenia "base" or "s".She is insisting on keeping the car utill it dies,does anyone have a convincing line that I could use on her? As for me I am still waiting around but i have to say,not making a car payment monthly sure makes your bank account bigger.:)
http://www.msmazda.com/newsite/msindex.html
If that doesen't convince her words, will have no effect.
LOL :-)))))
Kinda like how my older sister pretending not knowing our old chauffeur when he tried to pick her up on an old Opel wagon at school.
Tomek
I have to share this with car shopping encounter with you guys.Yesterday I was on Boston Rd. in the Bronx.I stopped by Cox Nissan where there was a sign posted on a 2001 Millenia (BASE MODEL) big sale.Out of curiosity(I never buy cars on Boston Road) I went in to inquire about this big sale on the Millenia.Guess what guys,they wanted $22995.00 for this with 20,000 big ones on the odometer.I told the sales rep.they are nuts,because I can get a brand new spanking Millenia for less than that and on top of that he told me the Camry is worth $1500.00.
I quitely walked away,what a rip off that would have been.Thank God for boards like these and the internet.
However, since it will be discontinued I presume the resale situation will be poor thus affecting the residual on a lease significantly. I don't keep cars for long periods so buying would probably hurt me resalewise as well. If anyone has an idea about a monthly lease rate on a P I would appreciate the infomation.
On cold mornings, it always seems to start with it blowing on my feet and windshield (defog) with the AC on. This strikes me as a little odd, but I suppose I can see that the ac and defog keeps things from fogging, but it blows cold. The cc in my honda products stay off until it warms up on a cold morning and defog has to be selected intentionally.
What do others do with this? I tend to turn off the AC.
Yesterday I was doing some hwy driving and it was in the 50's out and had the CC on 75. The AC insisted on running even though it wasn't needed. Granted it was sunny which will warm up a car, but fresh air was fine.
any thoughts?
Almost all automatic climate control systems turn on the AC in defrost mode, as it is proven to remove the fog on the windshield much quicker. Hot air generally makes things worse on a cold windshield.
At any rate, just select the mode and temperature you want manually if the Auto mode is not your cup of tea.
You have to be joking. On the other hand I would consider that a good deal on a TL too.
"Could anyone give me the exact RPM at 70 mph on their 4-speed automatic transmission w/2.5 engine and as to what kind of mpg they are getting on the same trans?"
You had asked that before, so yesterday I set it right on 70mph. It turns 2800 rpm at 70. I average 27 mpg highway, 20 city, and 22.2 overall on 87 octane fuel, and I use whatever brand is handy. I now have 4989 miles on the car.
2018 VW Passat SE w/tech, 2016 Audi Q5 Premium Plus w/tech, 2006 Acura TL w/nav
On the climate control, fwatson is right, put it to whatever mode you want it at. The A/C will always show up, this was one of my questions that I had for the salesman.
An S at $20,000 I don't think they would be able to keep them in stock then.
chrome/titanium front grill
17'' titanium finished wheels
avail only in black
two tone ivory interior
titanium finish on center console (replaces wood)
black floor mats
1000 total units (70% PS 30% SS)
I checked mazdausa.com, and you are correct. I am just a little surprised that they are producing a Special Edition at this late date. It sounds like a beauty for someone who will do the upkeep a black car requires, although I prefer wood to titanium. Of course that's only a personal preference.
Good Luck and have fun.
Good Luck.
You folk are driving one of the most beautiful cars on the road. I love my Maxima but I have always liked the Millennia as well. It is a shame Mazda was able to design a car with a look that never looks outdated, but feature wise is behind the competition. Did any of you consider the Maxima before buying the Millennia? Why did you choose the Millennia over the Max?
I own a 2000 Maxima SE and a 2001 Millenia P. Needless to say that I am fond of both.
I set out convinced I would buy a 2001 Maxima last August. Before doing that, I decided to do comparison testing of the Max, '02 Camry, '02 Altima (not released at that time), and Avalon. Over a period of two weeks I hit at least two dealers of each of those Models. Frankly, I found them all nice, but was underwhelmed by them all.
I found some of the styling of the Max, to put it kindly, Quirky. There was far more road noise than I expected ( I drove all three versions), and the ride was too firm for my taste, even on the GXE and GLE. Still I made a bid for a GXE at $23000 but the sales manager wanted to argue over an additional $300. I refused.
The Toyota dealers were far too proud of the new Camry, with the best price I could get just $200 under MSRP (manufacturers suggested ripoff price). I also refused that.
I was offered the cloth seat Avalon for $24000, but again was underwhelmed, especially by the shoebox styling.
I had read so much about the cheap interior of the new Altima, that I wrote them off. I was looking for some semblance of luxury, not cheapo.
I had not even thought of the Millenia due to Mazda's total lack of promoting it in ads. Once again I checked the new car ads in the Tampa Tribune, and came across the Millenia advertised at somewhere around $20000, but that turned out to be a come on, and that particular car had "already been sold". LOL. I inquired about the price of other Millenias on that lot, and the rude salesman refused to talk anything but MSRP. I walked off ready to give up and just run the wheels off my '95 Olds 88. But I couldn't get those beautiful Millenias out of my mind, and on the way home stopped at another Mazda lot. Bingo!
About 6 gorgeous Millenias sitting there, an extremely courteous and helpful salesman, and then a sales manager who took me seriously when I told him I wanted rock bottom out the door price. Test drove a "P" and fell in love with it. Back in the office they offered a bottom line price $8000 off the silly MSRP plus the $995 wax job. $21680 (less than $23000 otd). Not being totally stupid, I knew that was it.
With over 5000 trouble free and enjoyable miles on the odometer now, it has been the best decision I have made in my 60 years of car ownership. That's about 20 cars to date.
Fredvh,
Build Quality: The Millenia has the edge here, there is more attention to detail in the Mazda. The quality of materials is better in the Millenia. But don't let that fool you, the Maxima is a well built car.
Gas Mileage: I get better gas mileage with the Maxima. For some reason the 2.5L V6 in the MM is a gas guzzler compared to the VQ engine in the Maxima. Although if you are getting a 2002 Maxima with the bigger 3.5L V6 so things might be different in your case.
Interior Noise: The Millenia has a more quiet luxury ride. The Maxima growls like a sport car when pushed hard, but it is an very quiet at high speeds.
Seat Comfort: Maxima all the way. The Millenia seems crammed to me and the seats feel too small. There is a lot more room to strech out and get confy in a Maxima.
Reliability (long term): Either one should be very reliable.
Auto Tranny: My pet peeve about the Millenia. I really do not like the 4 speed auto. It is NOT a smooth shifting tranny and it is not unusual for it to start hunting for gears. Needless to say the Maxima tranny is much smoother.
Steering: The Millenia has that overboosted luxury steering. The Maxima does have give you more razor sharp steering responses.
Ride: This is really a matter of taste. If you like a luxury ride the MM is more for your taste. If you like sport (like me) the Maxima SE has a more taut sporty ride.
Again, two great cars with different personalities. The Maxima is my daily driver. Wife drives the MM. I do like the Maxima's room and sportiness, and love the Millenia's great looks and luxury feel.
Hope this helps
Speed
This is funny to me, because when my wife first sat down in a Max she looked startled. I ask what was wrong, and she asked why the seat was so hard. I think perhaps a very large person might perceive a small difference in size, but I actually measured the seat in a Max and compared it to the Millenia. Guess what. The Maxima's driver's seat was three quarters of one inch wider than the Millenia's. I personally can't feel the size difference, and the seats in my Millenia are extremely comfortable, even on a 3000 mile vacation. I have a sometime painful lower back, and the power lumbar support is very helpful. But even with it on maximum setting I would like a slight bit more push in my lumbar area.
It is interesting though to compare your view and mine on the same seats, and see the difference in perception. Goes to show the only way to know is to try it for yourself.
I am not a big fan of leather, so my Maxima seats are cloth. The cloth seats are a lot softer and more supportive than the ones in the Millenia. I have never measured the Maxima seats, but I did have the perception that they were wider than the MM seats.
Someone asked why did I chose the Max over the MM, I don't want to flame anyone but the Maxima just excelled in every area over the MM and the resale value on the MM is a shame.
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Hmm, a very interesting UNBIASED opinion. I also have one. X=Advantage.
Catagory -------------- Maxima ------- Millenia
Horsepower -------------- X
Styling ---------------------------------- XXXXXXXX
Quality of materials ----------------------- X
Quality of assembly ----------------------- X
Quality of paint ----------------------------- X
Paint Application -------------------------- X
Ride Quality -------------------------------- X
Noise Intrusion ---------------------------- X
Rear Suspension -------------------------- X
Repair History ----------- X ---------------- X
Standard Features ------------------------- X
Handling ------------------ X ---------------- X
Real World Price --------------------------- X
Depreciation ------------ 1/2x
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What kind of gas mileage are you getting now on your Millenia? I have read a couple of reviews that say the Millenia does not get "good" gas mileage. I forget what engine you have. Do you use premium? You and I have talked before about the Millenia, ES300, Maxima, I35, Honda, and the Accord which I am considering. I want quality built, comfortable, affordable service costs, and long-term dependability.
I own a 2001 MM "P". That has the 2.5L, naturally aspirated V-6.
With 5280 miles on the car, all while using 87 octane (regular unleaded)gasoline, I have averaged 20mpg city--27 to 28mpg highway, and an overall average of 22.2mpg. If they wish to call that poor milage for a 3400 pound four door sedan, they have that right. I do not agree.
My references to Repair History are based on both Consumer Reports Magazine, and Carpoint Reliability Ratings which you can access here:
http://carpoint.msn.com/home/reliability_ratings.asp
Select any car you want to check and compare them yourself. Be sure to check the reason for any Red and White X, or Yellow and Black exclamation point, by clicking on that mark. Green and White checkmarks are the best.
The subjective topics, such as comfort, you need to judge for yourself by driving all the cars you are interested in.
More Interior Room
More Trunk Space
Better Stereo
Better Ergonomics
6 speed available
Nav. system available
Sport Suspension
Faster
Beter Engine
Better Tranny
Better Fuel Economy