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Now if they offer a diesel with Barbera red...
-Paul
Were these the pictures on the BMW USA web site, or something else?
Thanks
Bruce
The mid-90s V-8s had a lot of problems with internal components (Nikasil cylinder liners?). Also, the auto trannys from that period were problematic.
I wouldn't touch this car, unless it was a one-owner with extensive service records. If all the repairs and fixes have been done, it could be a nice car. Otherwise, it could be a money pit.
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But here is a shot I found... the doors are different, and it is using the shift lever from the new X5.
-Paul
Or.. look a little earlier in the '90s, and pick up a 535i with a stick... That is the big inline six.
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Depending on the mileage, any early E34 will probably have already had the tranny rebuilt, by now... That wouldn't worry me nearly as much as one that was supposedly "trouble free", until now..
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528xi =$46,500 MSRP with Auto Trans reflecting a price decrease of $475 over 525xi
535i = $49,400 MSRP with Auto Trans reflecting a price increase of $625 over 530xi
535xi= $51,600 MSRP with Auto Trans reflecting a price increase of $625 over 530xi
I think this just made the job of choosing a 5 series easier.
I'd sure love to see a 535d or something similiar.
-Paul
There is a price increase with the 550i sports package from $2800 to $4600, an increase of $1800. This is due to the inclusion of the M-aero kit and 19" tires with some other goodies.
Expect the next 550i price increase with the new bi-turbo 4.4 litre V8 N64 engine. This is due in 2009 as a F10 MY2010 model.
There will be a 535d, and a 635d. There is also a rumour of a 635i in the works.
-Paul
Thus, I have three questions:
1. What is the difference (performance, 0-60 acceleration, torque, gas mileage) between the present 550i engine and the new engine due in 2009 as an F10 2010 model?
2. What do you think will be the difference (performance, 0-60 acceleration, torque, gas mileage) between the 2008 535i and the 2008 550i?
3. I drive with a heavy foot, as does my wife. My wife's Volvo XC-90 SUV (where we bought the 5 cylinder model instead of the V-8 in order to get better gas mileage and be ecologically friendly) gets only about 12-13 mpg for the 5 cylinder model due to our lead feet (as opposed to 18-24 as advertised). My mechanic has told me that this is due to the way we drive - quick acceleration making the engine less efficient. The V-8 gets about 18-20 mpg. Given all this information (I know, TMI), will the gas mileage difference between the 535i and 550I be that significant? Will the 535i get WORSE gas mileage than the 550I for those of us who like to accelerate quickly?
Thanks for any input you or anyone else can give me.
1. F10 550i acceleration times, I can't say but the performance will be much better than the current 550i. Note that the F10 550i will offer better performance than the S6 and E550.
The HP and Torque may be limited to about 420. The engine is capable of 500 HP and Torque. An indication of the potential of the N64B44O1 engine is the Alpina B7 engine which is a supercharge 4.4 litre V8 of the 545i/645i/745i.
2. With respect to the 535i, expect the same gas mileage as the 335i, maybe 1mpg less. I expect the real world 0-60 times to be close to the 335i, although the official time would say otherwise so expect the 535i to be pretty close to the 550i but not faster than the 550i.
3. The 535i will give you better mileage than the 550i. Expect 18-29 mpg range. I know of friends that are getting above 30 mpg on the highway with their 335i and 24.5mpg combined driving.
The F10 N64B44O1 engine (4.4 litre biturbo V8) will also offer better fuel economy than the N62B48 engine.
The model I am interested in is the 535Xi.
The BMW press release goes out of its way to say the tires on the 550i sport package's 19" wheels are non run-flat, yet BMW has gone to RFTs on both the 3 series and the X5.
Thanks
Bruce
If you are interesting in the 535xi, you know you can get it without the RFT.
Do you plan on getting the Sports package as well? If you don't want the Sports package then you have nothing to worry about.
As an owner with RFT, I found out that by keeping the tire pressure at the rated pressure addresses most of the rap the RFTs are getting. And there are 3 occasions where I can say "it was well worth it".
I have RFTs on my 2006 330Xi. I like the safety and convenience aspects, but not the ride harshness. Firm is fine, harsh is not.
Unless the 5 series suspension can do things to avoid the hard hits I occasionally get in my 330Xi, I want GFTs.
I thought the 535Xi would be like the 330Xi in that the sports package is cosmetic only, no change in suspension or wheel / tire size.
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Bruce
May I ask what your tire pressures are?
I check mine every 1000 miles, and maintain the 35 psi/38psi F/B and that took some of the harshness out.
The SP in the 535xi will have the same suspension as the 535i without a sports suspension.
I follow the recommended pressure on the decal in my door frame- 32 psi front and 36 psi rear, cold.
There is a lot of discussion on this in the 3 series forum. The original Bridgestone EL42 all season tires were especially bad. I replaced them with the all season Continental RFTs and they are much better, but I still get the occasional hard hit. By contrast, our 2006 X3 has EL42 GFTs, 50 series 18" tires, and the X3 does not suffer the same hard hits as the 330Xi.
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Bruce
I understand what you mean. You just find the hard hit annoying.
With regards to getting the Non RFT with your 535xi, talk to your dealer and see if your concerns can be accommodated.
Note that you will only take delivery in late March early April.
There are still some people out there that love the sound of the V8, the high torque and power.
Performance wise, the 550i will still be better than the 535i but not significantly.
It also gives you a strong reason to choose the 535i over the M45, G350, A6 4.2 litre V8 Quattro.
Drive them both over Loveland or Independence pass and then tell me what you think. ;-)
Best Regards,
Shipo
Has anyone has a similar experience with their car? I love the handling of the BMW, but this kind of freaks me out when I am on the highway. I never expected anything like this from a German car, and am wondering if maybe there is something wrong with the steering rack or suspension.
Other than this, the car is fantastic. A little low on torque at times, but otherwise a fantastic car.
-Paul
I'll bet you have that damnable Active Steering, see your dealer and have them check wheel alignment front AND rear as well as tires and steering.
2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93
-Paul
Check your tire pressure. ;-)
Best Regards,
Shipo
I can even get the wife on board for that one.
I've never spent this much for a car, but this might actually be worth it to me.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S
That's the same model I would get if I buy a 5 series. What did they give you for an expected delivery date?
Thanks
Bruce
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2022 Wrangler Sahara 4Xe, 2023 Toyota Tacoma SR 4WD
I'd take some of the articles in techtalk with a grain of salt, there are plenty of owners with anywhere from 70k to 100k with original clutch. It is all about one's driving style.
Plenty of 2000 E39 M5 in the mid to upper 20s can be found these days.
Tech Talk is great, but I do agree that some of Mie's comments should be taken with a grain of salt.
Maybe in a few years (a long few years) I'll pick up an '03 E39 M5, but it is but a pipe dream for now:) :P
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2022 Wrangler Sahara 4Xe, 2023 Toyota Tacoma SR 4WD
Other than that, the car is excellent. But, I should have gotten the 550. That is just me. I have a heavy foot, and find my car a touch slow on the on-ramps.
Thanks again!
V-10 is sweeter still!
Good luck on it. Even if the TPM shows good pressure, it just means nothing is leaking. It doesn't necessarily mean that the pressure is GOOD, as in the right range. Check your pressure settings vs what is recommended on the door jam in the driver's door. That would be a better baseline to go against.
-Paul
2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93
Thanks again to everyone who helped.
Regards,
Jose
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In detail plz....
The driving experience the comfortzone??? how is it???