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Truly a great car but obviously management is out of touch with its loyal and revering owners.
I have had my LS 430 Ultra for 11 months and have 14,000 miles...not a single problem. I have never used the Lexus Link and unless someone convinces me , I plan to de-activate it at the end of my one year of ownership.
In case you were referring to the concierge service, then I agree; probably not worth the money. But the basic service, which is pretty inexpensive, is a nice feature in an emergency.
Hope that this clears up things a little. My dealer is just great and is located in Ft. Myers.
When I get the new DVD I'll post any noticeable changes. I do have a DVD burner and will see how easy it is to make a copy (for backup purposes...of course).
But once again, I do encourage everyone to call corporate on this matter and let them know that we don't like being "nickel and dimed" to death. While you are on the phone with them, you might want to also mention the cell phone fiasco. Remember, the squeaky wheel gets the grease.
If we all make a call, maybe Lexus will be more proactive with the dealers so they can effectively deal with situations like this.
thanks
Just got off chat with some friends in Japan. The Toyota Celsior (Lexus LS) is very popular; their parents all have owned one.
I have heard very good things about the stereo in the new 7; does anyone out there have expereince with both?
The DVD update that just came out a few weeks ago is for the '01 LS models. Hope this helps.
I am still waiting for my (free) Nav update. The dealer calls me every day with a shipping update. I'll let everyone know when it comes in and what changes I can see (at least for Los Angeles streets). I will just be happy if the street my office is on is now on the map (a street that was built 8 years ago!).
I have to tell everybody, save your money!!! Other than they have added Canada I see no apparent improvements. All the areas that I could not access before I can not access on the new one. They might have added some data to metropolitan areas but as far as the suburban or outskirts, they have done nothing that is apparent to me. So unless you travel to Canada a lot, save your money for better things because if you get at $500 or so that they want you will be very disappointed and upset. That's just my opinion.
The dark blue on ecru must be stunning. The midnight pine only came with ivory in 2001. I would have loved it with the ecru. I would also think the car would look great in the river rock green color (if they ever make it available) that the LX470 comes in. I always mistake that color for a charcoal grey but its even nicer up close than that color.
Flint 350 - There are so many LS430's in my town that I now know two people from school baseball who have your black cherry color. Looks wonderful particularly in the Saturday morning sun.
Or do you mean only that the Brake warning light came on the next time you started the car? And you had to pull the brake release lever with your hand to turn the warning light off? That I have noticed several times, but I have taken it as an erroneous warning light. In fact I have reported it to my dealer and they said, "Oh yes, we will just adjust the blah blah sensor." However, the brake light still comes on all by itself once in a while.
Has anyone else noticed an erratic brake warning light?
ljflx, glad you liked the black cherry. It is much better in direct sunlight - as you observed -as many of the darker, richer colors are. I still love mine. I've seen a few of the pine, like yours, and like it a lot also.
NOT set automatically.
Had my LS Custom since last June. 12,300 miles - had CD player replaced (CD got stuck) and navigation system went out on me. They had to replace it.
Third Lexus I have owned and love the cars. Previously had originally LS and had SC400.
CD blanks with a blue hue to the recordinag surface won't play well (or at all) either.
I live in Canada so... things might be different here. One thing that irks me is that I cannot get the Ivory leather here, with the NAV system.
The ecru leather was too light for my tastes so I had to get the Black, the only other premium choice. My last car was a '95 LS, white with caramel colored leather, and it was true as Car and Driver said that "the mocha and caramel colored interior gives pleasure without calories."
Also, is Lexus Link std? I did not see it on the brochure here at least.
Final thoughts: I knew that the previous Nakamichi system was one of the best, supposedly; however, i did not find it all that different from our 10 year old Honda Accord, really.
What a diff., a Mark Levinson makes!
It is great how they use the front windshield to reflect the sound just like how they do in some concert halls. I listened to some strong male opera last night, and with the volume up, the sound was in fact, better than the crappy concert hall we have here in Toronto, Canada (the stage is built over Concrete, so the sound is horrible).
- Aroon
I use it for fun though. One of my favorites is to record an announcement that your passenger can win a grand prize if he or she can name the song playing on the radio by calling a made up number and identifying the song. No one ever seems to notice that the radio stops playing when the recorder is in playback mode.
Don't get Nav, you'll love the ivory.
At least you get an electrically heated windshield while those of just below the border have to live, and die, with fogged over windshields.
My second question: What is the big black button under the gas paddle?
Please e mail me (hsku@aol.com) with the info. Thanks for your help!
I'm not a mechanic, but I think that is one symptom when your timing has not been set correctly.
(you enjoying the merc1/markhampton war on the S board?)
Yes I'm enjoying the banter. I like Merc1 personally and admire his loyalty to MB. I just hope the day he gets one he's not disappointed afterward. I'm also enjoying his use of the LS430 against the Caddy in his argument. I rode in an S-430 a few weeks ago on my return from London and still consider it a great car. But the experience re-affirmed for me that the LS430 is the quieter, better riding and more luxurious car and thus remains the best choice for me. I don't see that changing when my lease is up. By the way I find the BMW 7 ugly in every color but just a bit less so in black. I can't believe that BMW is going to roll out that design in the 5 and 3 series.
Individual single-vehicle focused discussions are not the place.
I really appreciate your understanding.
;-)
Pat
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pat - who was stroking that MB S-class discussion? I certainly wasn't nor were my pals Flint350 or Blehrlich. I do agree with you that it's way over the top, on the wrong board and far too personal though.
M
There is a little horizontal bar in the upper left hand corner of the nav display, just beneath the compass icon, that says "GPS". When I first start the car, that GPS sign is not on. It sometimes takes as long as 5 minutes before it comes on. In the interim the nav seems to be dead reckoning, doing fine as long as I drive on streets shown on the map. But when I start out in a big mall garage structure, and make many turns before exiting, it gets quite confused about which direction the car is pointed in. Until the GPS sign comes on, the nav shows me driving in completely wrong directions, sometimes jumping onto streets that happen to match its erroneous assumptions, sometimes crossing freeways and other streets as though I were flying over them. Then suddenly the GPS sign comes on, and within seconds the nav knows where we are.
I used to think the GPS satellites were in stationary orbits, but recently found out that they are in 12-hour orbits, and inclined to the equator so as to cover more territory (such as Seattle). So there is undoubtedly an awful lot of computation and signal processing that has to be done, but surely it can't take as long as 5 minutes to acquire a fix, or can it?
Basically your system is operating normally. Different parts of the county are going to acquire the satellite at different times, but the system uses deductive reasoning to know where you are. When you enter the parking garage, and the system can no longer detect the satellites above, it knows which way the front of your car was facing when it last detected the satellite. If you are out of range for a short while and are not turning in circles, it can usually keep track of where you are. If you are out of range for quite a while, it can get a bit disoriented on you position until it re calibrates with the satellites. Your car does know which end the car faces, which way the road was going when you went out of range and so it tries to improvise.
Now, if you can just figure out why smaller towns have so little information programmed into the disc that would be great. Anytime I go on a road trip and leave the highway, it has hardly any idea where I am until I get close to a major city.
P.S. Sorry for typos. I just can't type well and spell check can always help me everything. I always miss one or six.
My understanding is that it must aquire multiple (2-3) satelites before it obtains a "fix". It does have a lot to do with locale. I have had it "drop out" in the middle of the desert in centrol WA and Oregon as we approached mountain ranges to the south.
We also have an inexpensive handheld and it seems to take forever to get a fix when we first turn it on.
Sorry, I guess I don't really have a good answer for you, but I certainly hope the airlines have a much better GPS recvr.
The GPS really wants to see at least 5 satellites, and may spend some time seeking them. Line-of-sight is required, and since some of the satellites are low on the horizon which means mountains, buildings, etc. block them out.
If you have a handheld, it probably has a built in satellite location table (epheremis? guide to where things are in the sky at a given place/time, help me out here ljflx or other stargazers), that's why it initially asks where you are e.g. state/country. After the first use, it assumes it is close to where it was when it was shut off. If you leave it in your luggage on a long trip, you may find it takes a very long time to find itself when turned back on.