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  • vwdawgvwdawg Member Posts: 162
    mfelts: I have a 2001 S60, and I'm quite sure my sway bar links are bad. Not sure what you mean by "popping noise", but I would describe my front end noise as scraping and knocking, particularly bad when going over road bumps, and it's continual whether I'm accelerating or not. It's now gotten worse, with a new "squealing" noise, so I just purchased new parts to install asap. You don't indicate the mileage on your S60, but at five years old, it would seem strange that your would have gearbox problems unless it's been driven VERY hard. Did you have the CV joint work done by a shop? If yes, I find it unacceptable that they didn't bother to check the sway bar linkage, so I would take it back there immediately and get them inspected. I would assume that the cost of sway bar link replacement is nothing compared to poking around in your gearbox. Good luck...vwdawg
  • mfeltsmfelts Member Posts: 7
    Hello, my name is mike and we might be selling our 04 s60r it only has 63000 miles on it. still a great car! the bummer with buying new is that you cant get the r models anymore, but the plus side is that you do get the dealer warranty when something goes out.
  • mfeltsmfelts Member Posts: 7
    thanks for the help, my s60r has 60000 and I did replace the cv myself. I will replace the swaybar links and see it that corrects the problem. thanks for the help.
  • mfeltsmfelts Member Posts: 7
    thanks for the help, my s60r has 60000 and I did replace the cv myself. I will replace the swaybar links and see it that corrects the problem. thanks for the help.
  • vwdawgvwdawg Member Posts: 162
    Hi mfelts: Just curious whether the sway bar link replacement did the trick. Just for the record, my links WERE worn out, but that ended up being just part of the story. I also discovered that the strut mounts AND the spring seats were worn, and they were the main cause of all the rattling and bumping noises from the front end. This repair is a bit trickier, as you must remove the entire strut assembly, and use a spring compressor to remove those parts. Compressed springs can be dangerous, so make sure you have a GOOD spring compressor, a good Edmunds or other repair manual, and ideally, help from someone who is familiar with this procedure. Good luck...vwdawg
  • mfeltsmfelts Member Posts: 7
    Hey vwdawg, So after getting into the project further I replaced the sway bar links with upgraded ones from Ipd, made with polyurethane bushings they are suppose to last longer than the factory parts. The car handled amazing but still had the popping noise. I finally found that the top motor mount bushing was cracked. This is the 5th one that we have replaced on the s60r. I replaced it with upgraded bushings also from ipd and replaced the lower transmission mount with the same bushing. (just a heads up if you replace the transmission bushings you cannot buy the smaller bushing on the transmission side of the mount. So better to purchase the whole assembly.) Got everything replaced and the popping stopped. I also replaced the mounts that mount the bar above the motor that the motor mount connects to with solid ones from ipd also so that it restricts the movement of the motor. My wife says that there is another popping noise but I am afraid that it is the same problem that you have with the strut mounts. I would recommend these upgrades, made the car faster, shifts smoother and handles like a dream. The only downfall is that there is just a little bit of motor vibration that you can feel but not bad at all. hope that helped......mf
  • vwdawgvwdawg Member Posts: 162
    mfelts: Thanks for the followup. Don't know if the S60s are prone to motor mount issues, but certainly good to know. My understanding is that strut mounts and spring seats tend to wear out prematurely, so keep an eye on yours if you hear other strange noises. Good luck. vwdawg
  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 32,935
    yes, the upper motor mount (the one you can see on top of the engine when you open the hood, fails periodically. Very easy to replace yourself, should you have that problem.

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  • mikey38mikey38 Member Posts: 141
    Had an invitation a couple of weeks ago to check out the 2011 S60 at the local dearler. Very nice looking car. It carries over a lot of the interior cues from the XC60 and the updated exterior looked pretty hot to me. Couldn't drive one but I told them I'd like to get behind the wheel when they hit the showroom.
  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 32,935
    I got a chance to sit in one at the NY autoshow this past winter. I was VERY disappointed in the rear seat legroom. Additionally, although I don't know how reliable the info, the attendant at the booth told me it would ONLY be available as a T6 AWD automatic model.

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  • vwdawgvwdawg Member Posts: 162
    gbrozen: Thanks for FYI...good to know for future reference. Great day to you. vwdawg
  • vwdawgvwdawg Member Posts: 162
    Hello all: 2001 S60 with 80,000 miles. About a month ago, my wife started complaining of an odor of gasoline inside our S60. It seems to be getting worse. I did a visual of the engine compartment and underneath the chassis, but couldn't see any obvious fuel leaks or drips. It's not only annoying, but I have obvious concerns that it could cause a fire. Has anyone ever experienced this problem, and did you find a solution? Thanks much! vwdawg
  • zagridzagrid Member Posts: 2
    edited August 2010
    Hi, vwdawg. Volvo has issued Recall 220 pertaining to a defect found in a specific version of the fuel pump in the model year 2001-2004 S60. Investigations found that "the fuel pump can when exposed to cetain environmental conditions (hot climate and temperature ceiling) over time and in combination of varying fuel quality, develop cracks in the fuel pump flange. If the condition occurs you may notice fuel smell and/or fuel seepage. The corrective action will be to inspect the version of the fuel pump installed in your vehicle, and if necessary replace the fuel pump with a part of a modified design...This procedure will be completed at no cost and will take approximately 3 hours." My local dealer has conducted a test on my S60 and XC90 within the past 90 days during routine service even though I had not noticed any smell. As it turns out, my S60 had the faulty version of the fuel pump which was replaced. Sounds like this may be what's causing the gasoline odor. zagrid
  • vwdawgvwdawg Member Posts: 162
    Hey, zagrid: Thanks for the great overview of this issue. I did some additional online snooping after sending out my post, and found essentially the same info you discussed. Interestingly, my S60 spent several years in Arizona, and several writers mentioned that Volvo's fuel pump recall pertained ONLY to cars which were "purchased or registered in the states of Arizona and Nevada". I found this rather strange, as I recall that temps in California, New Mex, Texas and the Gulf states can also exceed 100 degrees for extended periods. I guess the current question is...did Volvo later broaden that recall to other states? I need to discuss with my local dealers to find out if my S60, now registered in Minnesota, has the faulty pump, and would it be covered by this recall. Since I can't locate any obvious leakage underneath the car or in the engine compartment (and NO odor in the engine compartment), I strongly suspect that the fuel pump is the culprit. I'll post the outcome later. Thanks again for the reply! vwdawg
  • zagridzagrid Member Posts: 2
    Hi, vwdawg. According to the recall notice that I received from Volvo, the recall pertains to 2001-2004 S60 vehicles (as well as other Volvo models) "that were sold, or registered in the states of Alabama, Arizona, Arkansas, California, Florida, Georgia, Hawaii, Kentucky, Louisiana, Mississippi, Nevada, New Mexico, North Carolina, Oklahoma, South Carolina, Tennessee, Texas, Utah, Virginia, District of Columbia, and U.S. Territories".

    Furthermore, the letter reads "If you are receiving this letter and do not currently reside in one of the states or U.S. Territories listed above, or if your vehicles is not a part of the model years listed above, it is because our records indicate that your vehicle was originally sold in one of these States or U.S. Territories, or has been fitted with the concerned component and is eligible for this recall".

    Hope this helps and good luck !
  • vwdawgvwdawg Member Posts: 162
    Hi zagrid: Thanks for the FYI...much appreciated. Also wanted to provide an update regarding what happened after I wrote my original post. I stopped in to my local (Minneapolis) Volvo dealer (Borton Volvo, which I have to say, seems to be a "class act" and were VERY helpful). They asked me for my VIN, and they looked my S60 up on the system. Lo and behold...there was a fuel pump recall notice...pump will be replaced tomorrow! I'm assuming that since my S60 lived in Arizona for several years, it was eligible for the repair work. Maybe something to keep in mind for all Volvo owners...might be a good practice to just call or stop in at your dealer and get a VIN check to see what's in there. OK...this is my first real contact with Volvo regarding a "problem", and I have to say, I AM impressed. volvophile/vwdawg
  • alltorquealltorque Member Posts: 535
    edited October 2010
    On Saturday, here in U.K., I attended a Volvo S60 Track Day - FOC courtesy of Volvo. Around 40 guests, a bunch of hard-core pro drivers and maybe a dozen of the new S60's - all diesel - either D3 165bhp or D5 205bhp, (twin turbo) and all Geartronics, all FWD.

    Pro drivers and guests put the cars through some brutal high-speed handling tests and we were all amazed at the grip/composure/comfort/responsiveness of the new chassis. Makes my '06 S60 D5 feel quite wooden by comparison. The new car is a totally different animal to the old one. One of the pro's compared it to his own BMW 330d; "Almost identical in the dry but the Volvo leaves the BMW for dead in the wet".

    Scariest part of the day was the Police Pursuit. S60 D5 being chased by a full Police-spec V70 D5. With pro's driving both, the S60 just walks away from the Police car on a nasty slalom+high speed course. Having been a passenger in both cars; the S60 was remarkably flat and comfortable. The Police car was most unsettling, (I actually felt nauseous after the run, as did a few others), and some interior trim was popping off due to chassis flex. Driving that hard ! Apprently, in 9 weeks of Track Days, the V70 Police Cars have never caught an S60 - even when the pro's are playing privately. Most impressive.

    Sure, the rear legroom is not in the S-class league but I feel that the new S60 is at the top of it's class in so many ways. Haven't driven the gasser versions - but why would you with a choice of punchy, quiet, economical diesels ? :shades:
  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 32,935
    but why would you with a choice of punchy, quiet, economical diesels ?

    haha. Well, for YOU maybe. Not on this side of the pond, though. :cry:

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  • vwdawgvwdawg Member Posts: 162
    Hey alltorque: Have you heard any scuttlebutt about Volvo bringing these diesel rigs to the North American market? I love my old '01 S60, but it would be nice to move into a diesel at some point. volvophile1
  • alltorquealltorque Member Posts: 535
    Vwdawg, Asked my local Volvo dealer if he knew anything. Went like this :

    "Do you know if these diesels will be available in the American market?"

    "Well, they have the current ones so I guess they'll get the new ones".

    "No, they don't have any at present".

    "You're joking, aren't you ?"

    "No. Absolutely serious".

    "Well that's just stupid; most of our sales are diesels. What do they sell then ?"

    "New S60 will be T6 AWD only, I think"

    "@£%^*%£^(*)^%$£^&*&" Response unpublishable.

    So, no use to you at all, I'm afraid, but at least you have a supporter in a UK Volvo dealer. He did tell me that there are some new gasser engines coming out which will "blow your socks off", incl a T4 1.6/180bhp, T3 1.6/150bhp and a T5 2.0/204bhp. BTW, the D5 is a 5-cyl 2.4/205bhp and the D3 is a 5-cyl 2.0/185bhp, (a de-stroked D5). There will be a 1.6/105bhp diesel with low consumption/emissions a little later.............think it already appears in the C30/S40/V50 as eDrive or somesuch.

    Sorry cannot be more optimistic on the USA diesel front.

    There is a move, over here, to smaller, higher-rated gasser engines, e.g. VW's 1.4 TFSI, (Turbo- + Supercharged), with 178bhp. Thinking seems to be that governments are currently targeting CO2 but will turn to total-emissions, incl NOx and particulates. Small, high-output gassers make it easier to comply until they figure out a way to further clean-up diesels.

    Keep the faith.
  • vwdawgvwdawg Member Posts: 162
    Hey, alltorque: Thanks for the update. The problem with the American market, I think, is not Volvo's, but our own. Gasoline is still cheapo cheapo here. In Minnesota it's currently under $2.75 USD (and most everyone even complains about that!). There aren't many V8 engines sold these days, but smaller SUVs with V6s getting around 22-26 MPG are still quite popular. There are some smaller sedans with 32-35 MPG popping up, however. So...we ugly Americans still burn massive amounts of petrol like it's an entitlement. Sad to say, but until we start paying $5.00 or more at the pump, most Yanks won't demand the smaller, high-output gassers and diesels that you're talking about here. Sooner or later, we'll come around, but only when it hits our pocketbooks hard. Good day to you! vwdawg/volvophile1
  • alltorquealltorque Member Posts: 535
    vwdawg, Your logic is faultless - as ever. Maybe that nice Mr Obama will hike fuel taxes to fund his Welfare programme. We recently got rid of our Socialist government and are now having to pay the price for 13 years of disastrous over-spending.

    I hope you get the good engines etc before your wallets are emptied but experience tells me you probably won't.

    Will be watching your upcoming polls with interest. Further Volvo info as it comes available. Have a good day.
  • volvobuffvolvobuff Member Posts: 35
    That's exactly right. One good if perverse way to educate oneself on this matter is to take OSD on a new Volvo in Gothenburg. You do get a full tank of gas when you take delivery of your car, but the first time you have to fill up your new baby with $2.00/liter petrol and do the math, that $8.00 per gallon gas really gets your attention. Furthermore, in many if not most European countries, the car itself is taxed, either when purchased and/or annually thereafter, accordingly to the size and type of engine, i.e. according to its fuel consumption, a sort of progressive gas-guzzler tax. It is only a matter of time before such measures will have to be introduced over here as well.

    The other issue about diesels vs. gassers is that, the last time I was in Europe diesel fuel was selling for about 20% less than benzine. I have no idea what the current delta in Europe is, but in the US, diesel is appreciably more expensive than even 93 octane standard fuel. Little wonder that American customers won't buy and car makers won't import and sell diesel vehicles.
  • vwdawgvwdawg Member Posts: 162
    volvobuff and alltorque: I have actually considered the Gothenburg (or Madrid) option, but current financial situation will not allow. I assume the Yank bureaucrats allow the Euro-diesels and small gas rigs across the pond, right? Petrol in Minnesota is now around USD 2.80/gallon, and diesel is around 3.10, about 10-11% higher, which would be more than offset by 20 or 25% (?) higher mileage. I bought a new 2005 Jetta diesel wagon in late '04 (42-44 MPG!), and at that point, diesel was a bit less than regular petrol. For some reason, within a few weeks, diesel shot up in price. I'm not a hard core conspiracy theorist, but I can't figure out why diesel is now more expensive than petrol, when for 70 years or more it was cheaper, and is still cheaper in Europe...a move to keep diesels out of the American market? I had to sell the Jetta a couple of years ago due to a couple of kiddies heading to college...still miss that car! Oh well...I'll wait to see what Volvo does over here, and act accordingly. Gothenburg/Madrid sounds like an appealing option. Great day to both of you! vwdawg/volvophile1
  • alltorquealltorque Member Posts: 535
    Here in my part of the UK, (fairly typical), fuel prices are as follows - to-day :

    Unleaded Regular Gasoline : $7.01 per US Gallon equiv.

    ULSD : $7.17 per US Gallon equiv.

    That's using an ExRate of 1.56USD to 1.0GBP. (Haven't checked to-days ExRate but the get the general drift).

    Delta is not that great but the superior mpg of the small diesels rather swamps the slight difference.

    Keep smilin', Mein Herr.
  • jarekjarek Member Posts: 24
    Would anybody know if Garmin GVN 53 navigation module will work with central console display of new S60?

    jerr
  • maringamaringa Member Posts: 36
    Noticed that the 2012 S60 (FWD, T5 engine) is showing up on the volvo site. Priced a little better @ $32k vs. $37k for the AWD. 300 hp. Doesn't give availability date....I imagine early next year...
  • vwdawgvwdawg Member Posts: 162
    Hello, all: Just a followup to my 8/24/10 post. A few weeks after the fuel pump on my S60 was replaced under warranty, I took a family road trip to Chicago. I was parked in a ramp, and when I returned, noted a puddle of something under my car! A quick sniff confirmed...petrol! Being Sunday, no service available, and needing to get back to Minneapolis, with a bit of trepidation I drove it 400 miles home and brought it back to Borton, my dealer. They started an inspection immediately and found a bad O-ring on the fuel sender unit. Despite this NOT being a warranty item, they stated that the pump replacement should probably have revealed this, so the only charged me $18 for the parts! So...if anyone has their fuel pump replaced, and a proactive move, you should advise your service advisor to take care of the O-ring at the same time. Again...can't say enough good things about Borton Volvo and Chris, the service manager (she's awesome)...here's a dealer that actually goes above and beyond the call! vwdawg/volvophile1
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  • prigglypriggly Member Posts: 642
    Volvo, already financially marginal, is now in the precarious position of being moved lock, stock and barrel to Red China. This, of course, would be brand suicide.

    Does anyone trust Geely when they say they will leave Volvo in Europe and not move the whole operation to Red China to maximize profits? One realizes of course that they are not known for telling the truth.

    To see Volvo go the way of cat and dog food, baby cribs, brake rotors, etc. would be tragic indeed but this lingering doubt about their veracity (or lack thereof) is keeping me from buying a new S 60 T AWD. A great car but who wants Red Chinese rotors in two years??!
  • volvobuffvolvobuff Member Posts: 35
    The previous post is utter Sinophobic paranoia. There is no evidence whatsoever that Volvo is being moved to China. A few models are being assembled in China for sale only in China, and that has been taking place for years, long before Ford sold Volvo to Geely. There are no Chinese-made parts being used in Swedish or Belgian-built Volvos. Period.
  • prigglypriggly Member Posts: 642
    The previous post is utter Sinophobic paranoia.

    Utter rubbish and the epitome of denial and departure from reality. You must live in a cave if you have no perception of the negative effects Red Chinese garbage has had on the ongoing fall in quality of the marketplace in virtually every industry in which the "PLA" operates.

    Did you even know the "PLA" is the arbiter of the little island of capitalism that had to be created in Red China in order for the place to avoid the fate of Cuba or North Korea?

    Try asking a brake mechanic what he thinks of Red Chinese calipers and rotors and then decide if you would entrust the lives of you or your family to them.
  • ebpgilbertebpgilbert Member Posts: 1
    My Volvo has done this too. It usually happens in the summer- only a couple of times in the winter- the dashboard just goes blank. The repair guy said it was something with the computer, they allegedly fixed it, but it still happens. I don't even know how fast I'm going when it does, its SO scary. I wish I knew which type of Volvo's this affected, mine is a 2001 s60 piece of you know what.
  • vwdawgvwdawg Member Posts: 162
    Hi All: I'm considering picking up a clean 2001 S60 that was sideswiped by another vehicle. If one put all new metal on that side, it wouldn't be worth fixing, but I have a body guy who is amazing at pounding out damage, so he could rejuvenate it for reasonable cost. The problem? The owner thinks the "fuel safety shutoff" switch was tripped when the car was hit (I didn't know that could happen except for a rollover). In any case, it won't start. Does anyone know how to reset the cutoff? My dealer tech says I have to bring it in so he can hook it up to the diagnostics (OK...$200 for a tow, $150 for tech work...no thanks!). Can a regular OBDII diagnostic tool accomplish this? Thanks for any suggestions. volvophile1
  • bkvolvobkvolvo Member Posts: 9
    If so, lets hear about pricing, which packages, extras and overall brief review. I guess its too early but I haven't found one consumer review. :confuse:
  • alltorquealltorque Member Posts: 535
    Attached link will give you an insight, but to the T6 AWD rather than the T5. Have driven S60 D3 and D5 Geartonics on-track over a series of high-speed and manoeuverability exercises and I have to say it made my '06 S60 D5 Geartronic feel rather "wooden" The chassis re-work is astounding - it's not just a body job; they really have re-engineered the whole thing. I loved it. The 205bhp D5 S60 utterly demolished a similarly powered V70 D5 police-spec car - both cars driven by pros and each with 3 x passengers. The S60 was very composed at very silly speeds and angles whilst the V70 was all over the place and bits of interior trim were coming loose due to chassis flex. One of the pro drivers runs a BMW 335d and said that in the dry the two cars are pretty well matched whereas in the wet he'd always opt for the S60.............and all the S60's we were in were just FWD, not AWD.

    http://www.autocar.co.uk/CarReviews/FirstDrives/Volvo-S60-3.0-T6-Se-Premium-4WD/- 249963/
  • bkvolvobkvolvo Member Posts: 9
    Thanks for the reply. Did the model you drove have drive selectable settings? (sport) They offer a dynamic package for $900 which includes a dynamic chassis, 18 inch wheels and speed sensitive steering with driver selectable settings. I'm wondering if its worth it or even necessary on the streets of NYC. The article said that a t4 version was coming but it is the t5 in the US. I test drove it and it was pretty powerful and responsive.
  • alltorquealltorque Member Posts: 535
    From memory the cars we drove were pretty standard and really had all the toys you could usefully want/need incl the Pedestrian Safety and Anti-Collision systems, (which are brilliant). My concern with the 18" wheels would be same as with any car with biggest wheels possible - they don't do the ride quality any favours and, if NYC streets are anything like most of the U.K., (i.e. nearly as good as Beirut), then I'd certainly stick with the standard offerings and enjoy the ride. If, on the other hand, NYC has glass-smooth racetrack road surfaces then go for the 18" .............. but I wouldn't. Bigger wheels only offer benefits at the outer limits of handling but at the expense of thump/crash/tracking gone/possible tyre & wheel damage over bad potholes. For me, big wheels are a triumph of style over substance..................but each to his own.

    We only drove the diesels as those are the ones that will account for the vast majority of sales over here. The D5, (205bhp/310lbft), is a very nice bit of kit but it might be a cold day in Hades before it reaches the shores of The Colonies, (sorry, can never resist). ;)
  • prigglypriggly Member Posts: 642
    For those with this car, what has been your experience with the NAV system.

    I examined one in a new S60 with its dial affair and found it slow, unintuitive and rather primitive. But how is it in real life when you get used to using it on the road? How does it compare to a Garmin?

    Thanks for any insight you can provide?
  • alltorquealltorque Member Posts: 535
    edited February 2011
    Just a personal opinion but I would only take a built-in NAV system if it was standard fit, no-cost option. For much less money you can buy the top spec TOM TOM and move it around at will. Doesn't have to be windscreen mounted, either. Just buy the appropriate Brodit clip mounting and fit it wherever you like. Fast ? Accurate ? Intuitive ? Yes, that describes TOM TOM units to a tee.......and map updates are likely to be cheaper also, when needed. I've been using the same TOM TOM GO 300 since about 2005, (but have bought new map cards for a few £'s), and it's never let me down once in Europe or USA, (used in a hire car for a holiday in Nevada & Arizona).

    Sorry, not answering your question.............well, not the one you specifically asked. Just trying to point you at a potentially better option. IMO, of course. :D
  • brwndoggybrwndoggy Member Posts: 41
    I'm actually on the fence about the new owners in the far east. I admit that I am biased against their business tactics and trustworthyness (bigot here) and will normally buy a US made or anywhere else made over a chinese product (even if slightly more).

    As long as the cars and parts are still made in Europe I'm ok, but if they are made in China I will be not be buying an S60 or XC60 to replace a 9 year old MDX and 3 year old GM Saab which I had mixed feelings about too.

    Anyone know where we can get facts about if parts are being made in China for US delivery cars?
  • dmanyaddmanyad Member Posts: 3
    Interested in buying (as opposed to leasing) an S60, probably the 5 cylinder model. Never before bought a Volvo. My question is: do Volvo dealers negotiate over pricing of their new cars, even hot models, like other manufacturers' dealers do? If so, any strategies you have used to minimize price?
  • maringamaringa Member Posts: 36
    Can't tell you for sure, but Volvo's in general are heavily discounted. They are beginning to sell S60 T6's anywhere from $4-$5k. I would think it would be reasonable to get at least $3-$4 k off a T5.
  • alltorquealltorque Member Posts: 535
    Can't answer for USA dealers but UK dealers will certainly negotiate. Level seems to be circa £2k - £3k across the range so would expect similar in your part of the world. They are launching a new model and, I'm sure, want to achieve market penetration so walk in, negotiate and see what happens. Worst that can happen ? You leave without a new Volvo. Best that can happen ? You get a nice new S60 T5, or T6, for $5k under list.

    Life's too short not to try. ;)
  • brmdbrmd Member Posts: 1
    interest in buying '07 S60 2.5T AWD cert, pre-owned 36k miles. Test drove and heard a grinding noise, dealer replaced stabilizer bar links on the spot and seemed to solve the problem. Is this likely to happen soon again and does it make this a bad buy?

    Thanks.
  • bkvolvobkvolvo Member Posts: 9
    I've recently ordered the 2012 t5 s60 and learned that the car does not come with a spare tire (just a can of fix a flat). You have to pay $260 for a spare tire but the kicker is that it has to sit above the floor in the trunk. One would think that there would be space under the floor in the trunk. Is this asking for too much? Anyone have any information or feedback on this? This is my first volvo and im wondering if this is new or something volvo does? Does the tire get in the way of laying things flat with the back seats down? Looking forward to getting the car and hope this is my only complaint.
  • vwdawgvwdawg Member Posts: 162
    brmd: The stabilizer links, strut mounts and spring seats on the S60's seem to be a weak point, at least they were on my 2001....I replaced them all by 80k miles. I don't know if Volvo had beefed things up by 2007. Stab links are a very easy task for a DIY'er, and strut mounts and spring seats are not terribly difficult either (but you need a spring compressor and to be very careful from a safety standpoint). My opinion is that these items do not make it a "bad buy". Maybe other folks have other feedback on this or other potential issues on the 2007. vwdawg
  • vwdawgvwdawg Member Posts: 162
    Wow...that sounds bizarre, and very "unVolvo-like". I hope it's not a trend in the auto industry. Personally, I would go to my local salvage yard, Craigslist or Ebay and find a wheel with a good spare tire for $100 or so. Uh-uh...no "fix a flat" BS for me. What if the tread separates or the tire blows on a back country road at 1:00 AM and your wife/girlfriend is driving alone? Whoa...you'd lose some points on that one! vwdawg
  • ahsanhasanahsanhasan Member Posts: 6
    I am considering a Volvo S60 and was shocked to find no spare tire, the salesman suggested run flat tires. I am not sure if that is an option for you since you have already purchase the vehicle.
  • ahsanhasanahsanhasan Member Posts: 6
    I want a safe care and low maintance car, this T6 has me very interested. Wanted a BMW but afraid of maintance cost after warranty (very expensive) and use preminum gas. Does anyone know about noise in S60, does run flat tires add to road noise?
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