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2003 Audi A4 Avant 3.0 6-speed
2004 Volvo S60R AWD
2003 Saab 9-3 Vector 6-speed
Which company has better quality control and dealer network service??
Here the caddy dealers sell Saabs.
Also, according to JD Power Volvo ranks ahead of Audi and Saab in initial quality.
-rollie
Everything I have read and heard from other Saab fans lead me to believe the new 9-3 is very well executed.
You definitely will have access to more Volvo dealers than Saab.
Personally, if I were going German I would look at the Benz or BMW before the Audi.
I don't know what the C option is can you tell me.
I heard about the S80 AWD
BTW - If I'm wrong about this, someone please correct me.
Any comments?
Dave
Hope this helps, that's on a 2003 S80 2.9 with premium pkg, cold climate, 17" arrakis wheels and I added factory fog lights.
Dave
Dave
Is Volvo going to do anything about the S60R automatic performance (0-60 in
7.2 sec)? Not very high performance slower then the S60 T5. Is there going
to be a MY2005 S60R? Is the S60R going to get a 6 speed automatic
transmission?
Thx,
Bob
The auto tranny can't take it.
There will be a 2005 R, according to rumors at Volvo it will be powered by the new short I6 @ 350hp.
No word on a new auto trans though.
Currently there are no auto transaxles in the world capable of dealing with more than 300 ft-lbs of torque, developing one would be too costly for Volvo, unless the costs could be shared. But with who?
No other automaker in the world is trying to send so much power through a tranverse engine-transaxle setup.
Bob
Both are more or less conventional transmissions.
What ever you do..stay away from this dealer.. worst I've ever dealt with. As for the car..I turned in a 2000 S70.. actually liked that car much better than the S60.. but it might just be the horrible experience at the dealer!
Dave
Dave
They set up 3 courses at a closed Naval Air Station. Ice was called Winter in Sweden - it simulated winter conditions and we drove S60's with and without AWD. Fire was called Summer in LeMans and we drove S80's and S60's equipped with skid control systems. Last was a hot lap track where we were driven around in S60 Turbos 5 speeds with professional drivers. Sideways in a Volvo was interesting. They also had on hand a genuine racing Volvo that some people went out in.
They had 3 series and C class vehicles to compare against as well as all the models to climb into and check out. They also had an XC90 there behind velvet ropes. And the caterer did a great job.
If the R drive is anything like that day, you'll have fun.
Dave
Don
Most even charge drop off fees at lease end.
However, if your charges are less than $1000 chase, and now Volvo Finance will waive the charges(except for the disposition fee)
Also, it can take anywhere for 1-3 months before your lease is closed in the lease companies books due to the paperwork and bureaucracies involved.
After nine months into my S60 AWD, I am completely satisfied. It has been boring in the absence of problems. Not even little things like lightbulbs going out are happening. The only time that I have seen the service department is when the car is in for oil and filter changes. If you are having problems with a particular dealer's service department, you need to take your business elsewhere.
My problem with Volvo is their leasing company and RED BANK Volvo in particular.. and yes..If the corporate office treats you in such a manner then I'd NEVER buy another one again..in todays time customer loyalty is not something to play with..way too many excellent cars out there to choose from.
As for the car.. dash board rattles alot and their is a banging from underneath.. both come and go which means that the dealer will not hear them in all probability , so i'm stuck with it.. and the radio is horrible.. but its leased so I really dont care.. wife drives it..loves the turbo..I'll stick with my honda..50,000 miles and not a hint of a problem!
My question is, what price should I target when haggling. Is there any rebate program like in last year?
Thanks.
What does Edmunds say for a TMV?
Shop around!
And does you lease include an buyout option that allows you to pay the $26000 off after 3 years?
I am considering buying a volvo because of it's safety reputation. I have been looking at the S60's. Are volvos reliable? Have any of you experience problems with the cars? I've always liked how square the volvos were, but when I'm finally ready to buy it, they go and change the shape.
What are you guys paying for your S60 2.4T automatic? According to Edmunds, I can expect to to pay around $33,000.
Good Luck
From Consumer Reports, I believe.
There were lease incentives on the S60 of up to $5500, they have been discontinued, in all regions as far as I know.
But considering how bad the dealer was and how babd Volvo leasing is, in hindsight I should have bought something else. The Accuras were a close second with good incentives and much more reliable.
All have the standard TRACS but none have
DSTC(Dynamic Stability and Traction Control).
It is too late to custom order, but dealer
would try to find if any other dealers have
the S60 with DSTC.
My question is: do I really need DSTC? Is the standard TRACS traction control, with AWD,
sufficient for bad weather driving?
I know that the new S60R has AWD paired with DSTC.
Any comments?
The R has it because of the power output of the R engine.
The normal AWD drive system should be more than enough to help you out in bad weather.