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  • dangnabbitdangnabbit Member Posts: 30
    Hey Mr. Vivona,

    Just as I was about to pull into a transmission specialist, the car started shifting again perfectly! I drove it around town a few times and it's shifting like normal again (Thank God). I think you're right. Whatever the gremlin is, it's probably an electrical sensor.

    Oh yeah, regarding the previous problems I was having with the horn, SRS, and cruise not working. It seems I need a new clock spring. It's not a major item and a used steering column from any salvage company should do the trick. But it's not bothering me so I won't worry about it just yet.

    Thanks again for all the great help. Cheers!
  • reedpreedp Member Posts: 2
    I own a 1999 Diamante. One day the heat was unbearably hot. The next day it doesn't work at all. What do you suggest is going on?
  • pandboypandboy Member Posts: 28
    Your comments on the two vehicles are greatly appreciated. My family currently owns two vehicles, one is a sedan, the second is an older minivan. With a family of four, the minivan is too cumbersome and not very good handling in snow. I thought 4wd would be better in snow. I test-drove the Montero in other day, felt pretty good about the vehicle but noticed it was underpowered. Well I might look into the 2003 model which has a little more power. Any one has tested the new model yet? On the other hand, I am still looking for good deal in Diamente as I am convinced the car is under rated thus good deals are likely to be made.
  • 2001lsguy2001lsguy Member Posts: 5
    I HAVE A 2001LS AND I WILL BE DOING A TRANSMISSION FLUSH SOON.....CAN I USE ANY TRANSMISSION FLUID OR ONLY THE ONE MITS. RECOMMENDS?....WILL IT CAUSE TRANSMISSION PROBLEMS?
  • vivonavivona Member Posts: 410
    2001lsguy - The factory recommended ATF is formulated to ensure proper operation of the torque converter. As little as fluid costs, I see no reason to use anything else but the recommended fluid. That way you can be sure it is right.

    According to the manual, a transmission fluid change is only needed in severe service applications. The process calls for disconnecting the ATF hose to the radiator cooler and running the engine to drive out the ATF, then draining the remaining fluid from the AT pan. You should always change the filter with a fluid change. Here again, I would only use a Mitsubishi filter to eliminate the possibility of problems later.

    Mr. Vivona
  • mcaparsomcaparso Member Posts: 7
    Hello to all.

    I have a 2001 D, green, that was an AVIS rental. It has the factory Eagle GA tires on it, and it is obvious they were never rotated. The rear tires are scallopping and the fronts are going bald. Upon reading reviews on the tire rack, I agree, "I would not have bought the car if I had known the tires were this horrible." Moreover, "I would never buy these Eagle GA's unless I was going to sell the car tomorrow."

    I love the car, the power is great, and I have bought 6k miles on it with no issues, just keep changing that oil. My question, I am looking at the Michelin Pilot Sports. Can anyone offer a different suggestion for tires?

    My Eagle GA's shake, and it sounds as though I am in a tank driving at 80mph. Interested in anyone elses comments regarding these tires.

    Is is worth drafting a letter to Goodyear/Mitsu? I know I didn't own the car when the tires should have been rotated, but these Goodyear tires suck. I can't beleive people buy them. Now I know why fine German cars don't use them as OE.

    Thanks,
    Matt
  • pjreporterpjreporter Member Posts: 32
    If you drive a Mitsubishi Diamante, please email me at lori_f@eudoramail.com. I write a weekly car feature for a major business daily and would love to hear your comments about your car. Need responses ASAP.
  • vivonavivona Member Posts: 410
    I agree that the Goodyear Eagle GA tires are not the best choice. Unfortunately, Goodyear makes the GA in Australia so that is the natural choice for Mitsubishi since the Diamante is also made in Australia.


    The problem with the GAs is inconsistent sidewall stiffness around the circumference of the tire. This makes the tire vibrate even if it is balanced off the car on a regular tire balancer. The only way to get a GA to not vibrate is to balance it with the Hunter GSP9700 which simulates road force while the tire is being balanced. See the details at http://www.gsp9700.com/


    Unfortunately, once the tire has become scalloped by vibration, you cannot do anything about it other than either live with the noise or replace the tire.


    Other than Michelin tires (which can be quite expensive) I would consider the Dunlap SP Sport, Yokohama AVS db or Bridgestone Turanza LS-H. Of those, my preference would be the Bridgestone Turanza based on Tirerack user ratings and my personal experience with Bridgestone Turanza tires.


    If you choose to replace the tires, make sure the lug nuts are replaced only using hand tools (not an air impact wrench) and tightened only by using a hand torque wrench set to 75 ft. lbs. Excessive tightening of lug nuts is rampant in the tire replacement business and can lead to brake pulsation about 3,000 miles later.


    Mr. Vivona

  • hoo320hoo320 Member Posts: 46
    thanks for reading.
    I have a 92 Diamante LS, it is good except the air conditioner. Sometimes it can kick the compressor on, sometimes when it cannot. when the compressor is not on, the fan speed controller is not working too.
    I went to a salvage yard a while ago,and got a new climate controll unit and put it in. It worked for a about 2 weeks, then the same thing happened.
    Anyone has close experience? any idea?
    Apreciated.
    Hoo
  • czibertczibert Member Posts: 38
    Hey Vivona,

    Do you know what is involved in switching out the steering wheel mounted radio controls on a '93 D? Is it very complicated, or can the old unit be removed and replaced easily? I know you have several spec books on this car so I thought you might know.

    Anyone else that may have experience with this is welcome to provide insight...

    Thanks!

    Chris
  • rattlecagerattlecage Member Posts: 32
    Well used car prices got so cheap, that i went out and bought a 2000 Avalon for 16k, trading in my 92 diamante :(.

    It was a great car, and i miss it a little, but I think the crowning blow, was when i saw an absolutely cherry 95' Diamante on a used car lot for $1950.00. Hell I almost bought it, it was in much better shape than the '92 I owned. But then this dealer decided to give me 1750.00 tradein on a 2000 Avalon ( with its amazing VVTI engine), and I decided to say goodbye to it.

    Thanks for the help everyone, cheers.
  • czibertczibert Member Posts: 38
    Where do you live??? You can't touch an Avalon or Diamante around here for those prices. I saw a used '93 or '94 D ES for $6K last week. And the Toyota's are significantly more expensive. There has been no break on used car prices in Seattle...
  • rattlecagerattlecage Member Posts: 32
    I live in Greater Los Angeles. I found the Cherry 95 Diamante for 1950.00 at a dealer amongst this strip of dealers on Sepulveda Blvd in Van Nuys.

    I shop for about 2 weeks AutoTrader and found several 2000 Avalons under 20k, I also shopped Recycler.com.

    Some of them were salvage, but some were not, the one i bought was a 1 owner lease return with a Bench seat, which is the option I was hoping for.
  • jrafesjrafes Member Posts: 1
    Anybody have any idea how to git rid of the time of day on the stereo on my 01 (P-901 stereo). It used to display the station but after service which involved disconnecting the battery the display show the time of day. Seems like a simple thing but there is nothing in the manuel and the dealer knows zip.

    John
  • mcalfedmcalfed Member Posts: 1
    I have a 1992 Diamante. I love my car but the only thing that isn't working is the AC. Here is Sacramnto in the Summer it's hot. The AC rarely comes on, I have had everything checked about 3 times, the freon and system looks ok but still no cooling. The AUTO controls for the AC don't work and the FAN control only works on HIGH. Any ideas?
    Post here or send email, I could use the help.

    mike@mikecaldwell.com
  • dangnabbitdangnabbit Member Posts: 30
    Welcome to the Diamante group. I, too, have a 92 Diamante LS with exactly the same problem as you describe. Unfortunately to date, I can't still figure out what the cause is, in spite of numerous trips to the mechanic. I've got a feeling the problem is electrical and affecting the automatic climate control, and therefore when this is not functioning properly, nothing functions properly (i.e. the blower speed control, the A/C). But I'm no expert and the "experts" here are stumped as well. If I do find out anything, I'll let you know.
  • lngtonge18lngtonge18 Member Posts: 2,228
    This is just a possibility, but since both of you are desperate, my input may come in handy. I had a 93 Diamante ES. One morning I left the car running and the heater on high to warm the car. When I got back in the car, the auto AC had completely gone kaput. Nothing worked. Turns out one of the 2 relays controlling the system had shorted out. One relay is located in the driver's footwell and the other in the passenger footwell behind the glovebox. My problem was caused by the one on the driver-side. Supposedly one controls low fan speeds while the other controls high fan speeds (they also control the auto AC function). Therefore, it could be possible for one to quit working and allow the system to only run on high. I would look into replacing these relays. They only cost $15 a piece. Replacing that one relay fixed my auto AC and it worked fine until I sold it at 173k. This could very well be the simple electrical gremlin that is causing your major problems.
  • regfootballregfootball Member Posts: 2,166
    been offered a deal to trade up my wife's 2001 to a 2002. Identical car (ES) right down to color except the 2002 has alum. wheels.

    what to do.......4k to trade. currently the payment is 290, and would go up about 20 bucks a month. Wife is putting about 22.5k miles on a year.
  • dangnabbitdangnabbit Member Posts: 30
    Thanks for the input. I'm gonna print out your post and show it to the mechanic the next time I go. Although I'm not in too much of a hurry having just spent 500 bucks on some exhaust work and a new (rebuilt) engine computer. Man, this is one expensive car to maintain.
  • fatsam2fatsam2 Member Posts: 2
    I may be picking up a 2002 LS in tomorrow and I was wondering what kind of real world gas mileage I can expect.
    Fat Sam
  • regfootballregfootball Member Posts: 2,166
    my wife gets 23-27 in town with hers.
  • lngtonge18lngtonge18 Member Posts: 2,228
    4k to trade for the same car, with the only difference being alloy wheels? You could buy some alloy wheels for $500 or so. To me, it doesn't seem worth it. Is this 02 brand new or a program car?
  • regfootballregfootball Member Posts: 2,166
    made an offer to trade for 3.

    same car.....20000 miles less. actually the sell price on the 2002 with 11k miles would be less than the 2001 with 11k I bought last year. Plus the interest rate is less.....payment would go up maybe 10 bucks but if it works to my offer would pick back up 20000 miles.

    FWIW, I usually don't keep my cars past 4 years......I don't wanna spend ANY money on FIXING stuff. If I unload the car before the first wave of repairs (brakes, tires, suspension) then my overall expenditures is usually limited to the car payment and oil changes only. I can manage my expenses better when I am paying for those known amounts. On a continual basis it costs less than hanging on to the car too long and getting hit with the 1000 and 1200 dollar repairs. Even those 6-700 dollar repairs will end up costing more over time.

    Not a big deal now, but since I am buying a house soon I want to have a car in the stable that will be in the warranty period longer, so in 2 years that D will have only 50k miles on it (and still just have some powertrain warranty left), not 70 (and out of warranty).

    4k is less than the first year depreciation on any new car anyways, and even if you look at it in terms of mileage only, you still need to account for the idea that MSRP's go up 4-5 percent or more each year and on a 25k MSRP car like the D that's an additional 1k appreciation each year on top of mileage that the next year car costs you. The folks who hang on to their cars for say, 10 years, not only lose the value of what they paid on the car they bought but are losing 50% or more in terms of replacement value. The car you pay 30k for now will cost you 45-50k in ten years. In ten years your 25k car has no value and you are down 45-50k on the new one, which is at least 4-5 k a year.

    If I can swing the deal for 3k I am in good shape with the wife on pace for 22k miles a year.

    Plus then I don't have to look at those freaking ugly hubcaps and worry about her driving on those slippery Yokohama tires. And she's happy because she's got the exact same car (except for wheels which she don't care about).
  • czibertczibert Member Posts: 38
    Hey--

    Does anyone know why Mitsu's website "www.mitsubishicars.com" does not have info on the 2003 Diamante? Every other model has new 2003 info, but the D still is listed as 2002. Seems kinda like a model change or a discontinuance of one model or another is on the horizon...
  • anonymouspostsanonymousposts Member Posts: 3,802
    The 2003 Diamante will exist but I'm not sure if they are in production yet. Major changes are standard alloys and sunroof on the ES model along with upgraded cloth interior on the ES and VR-X.
  • czibertczibert Member Posts: 38
    Thanks for the info. Where did you get it? Just curious...
  • anonymouspostsanonymousposts Member Posts: 3,802
    I work for a car dealer who also has a Mitsubishi franchise.
  • czibertczibert Member Posts: 38
    Looks like the 2003 info has now been updated. Everything the guy said is right, 16" alloys and standard power sunroof for the ES. Some changes to the VR-X. Base prices looks the same. Check it out for yourself at www.mitsubishicars.com

    Still a great car at a great price...
  • zimonawhim1zimonawhim1 Member Posts: 10
    1. I want to change the tranny fluid on my 1st gen D. Would removing the two drain plugs listed in my manual accomplish this(I don't want to have to drop the pan).

    2. At idle or low RPM my car makes a tapping sound. To me it just sounds like the valves. It's never given me cause for concern because I just think it's a sound the engine makes and not a problem. However, I read that changing back to an OEM oil filter will stop the tapping(no explanation as to why). I can't figure out why this would be. ANyone know?
  • kfhmailkfhmail Member Posts: 199
    Any info on the 2004 Diamante. When will it go on sale and any info on changes (pictures)?
  • czibertczibert Member Posts: 38
    I don't know the details, but I am pretty sure we're going to see something new for 2004. The current car, while still a well designed and competent machine, is seriously out of date (7 years). I saw a few months ago some artist sketches (not sure of the source, somewhere in Australia) of the car and it looks much more "Eclipse-esque" than I would like (big swoopy lines and bug headlights, etc)...we'll just have to wait and see.
  • regfootballregfootball Member Posts: 2,166
    traded the platinum white 2001 ES for a 2002 platinum white ES today for my wife.

    gain 22,000 miles back. the new one has 12k on the odometer.

    and aside from alum wheels w/ goodyears and the newer front end and rear lights its the same car. The newer one I got cheaper than last year....blame the economy and used car market. trade diff was 3500 (15400-11900), but with good trade number and lower interest payment only goes up 10 bucks. In MN you almost have to trade because then you only pay sales tax on the difference. If you sell your car private party, you lose $$$ in having to pay tax on the full price of the new car you get. I think its the biggest scam....not only does the gov. get the money on the intital purchase, they get it over and over again when the car changes hands every few years.....the dealers use it to their advantage to keep their trade values low.....("you know if you buy the car without trading you'll apy an extra 1000 in sales tax").

    My wife on the ride home said she thought the newer one felt noticeably tighter. Considering the miles she drove were hard miles on the old one I would understand. The year we had the 2001 was completely trouble free. Only did oil changes! Had I kept the 2001 it woulda been time for the initial maintainace stuff, and that woulda tightened it up.

    Not a screaming deal, but a good one, move up in miles and warranty again, not mcuh extra money and my wife is still happy! Plus now I got aluminum wheels to look at and not ugly hubcaps.
  • regfootballregfootball Member Posts: 2,166
    http://www.geocities.com/regfootball/diamanteindex.html


    Dang I like this car......

    dial up users beware...picture file sizes are really large....

    actually I see they just shut it down because of file transfer size....I will try to resize the pics and repost them, tomorrow....need sleep now!

  • chrism07446chrism07446 Member Posts: 1
    I'm wondering what the typical cost is for the 60K service + timing belt on a 98 Diamante ES. I don't want to get screwed over by the dealership (I don't trust them). They've already given me an estimate of about $599 for the 60K service and about 450 for the timing belt replacement labor and parts cost. I don't recall whether the transmission service (which I've been told I need by a separate garage) is part of the above 60K service or not. I have 73K on the car now, so this is something I need to do soon. Can anybody tell me whether this $1,000+ combination of 60K service and timing chain replacement is typical/standard or should I be shopping around? I mean, I know shopping around is generally a good idea in any case, but I'm a bit concerned about having any old garage work on the car and potentially use non-Mitsu parts.


    Thanks

    Chris

  • tcole3tcole3 Member Posts: 10
    Hi Mr. Vivona - I have posted intermittenly on here before. I bought a 2001 Diamante LS in March with 8000 miles on it. It still has the factory warranty of 3 years/36,000 miles on it. I have 484 days or 16,000 left on the warranty. My question is should I buy the extended warranty from the dealer it is @$1400.00 to extend to 75,000 miles. They also have one to 100,000 miles but it is almost $2000.00. What about warranty offers on the internet? I maintain my car well, change oil every 3000 miles, use mid-grade gas (should I switch to the premium?) have maintance performances as per the dealer. I mostly do city driving - live in the desert. My last car was a Pontiac Grand Am which I kept for 7 years -it only had 73,000 miles on it but after it hit 50,000 miles (warranty) it seemed like everything fell apart and I was constantly sinking money into it. I would of kept it longer as it was in good shape interior and exterior. I would like to keep this car for about 7 years or longer as from reading some of these posts I can expect this car to go past 100,000. I do not do any work on the car myself - please let me know what you think

    Thanks Theresa
  • lngtonge18lngtonge18 Member Posts: 2,228
    That 60k service sounds pretty darn high! I would ask how much they charge to simply change your spark plugs, air filter, oil (if needed, not sure when u had it done last), and do a tranny service. Anything else is not needed. Don't buy into a fuel system cleaning or any of the other "checks" they do. With those services, it should cost around 250. The timing belt change sounds about right pricewise. Hope that helps.
  • regfootballregfootball Member Posts: 2,166
    i think the diamante has a 5/60 powertrain warranty.
  • vivonavivona Member Posts: 410
    Extended warranties are not often a good deal. On average, only about 18% of the money spent on extended warranties is actually paid out. That means there is a 82% profit margin on them. Sure, one owner may get more back than the warranty cost, but overall, the payout is about 18%.

    Most of the expensive repairs on a car involve the powertrain. The Diamante basic 3/36 warranty is bumper-to-bumper (it covers everything). Mitsubishi also warranties the powertrain beyond the bumper-to-bumper warranty to 5 years and 60,000 miles. That means the extended warranty you are considering is only buying you an extra 15,000 miles.

    If I were you, I would put the $1,400 in the bank as a "car repair fund" and use it if you actually needed it for something that the warranty would have covered. The odds are greatly in your favor that you will still have most, if not all, of the money when you reach 75,000 miles.

    Your experience with a Grand Am should not be repeated with a Diamante. The Grand Am has a poorer reliability record and failures beyond 50,000 miles are not unusual. A Diamante should go well over 100,000 miles without a failure. I personally know of several Diamante owners that have past the 100,000 mile mark without a problem. In fact, a friend of mine just sold his 1992 with 216,000 miles on it and it was just then beginning to need a valve job. That ain't bad!

    Your single biggest risk in having your car last a long time is the quality of work done by mechanics during periodic maintenance.

    As to mid-grade gas. I also use it in my 1999 Diamante and note no decrease in performance or gas mileage.

    If you still decide that must have an extended warranty, you should be able to find a better price than $1,400. Search on the words "extended auto warranty" and request quotes from several online sources. For instance, a quick check with Warrantybynet came up with $814 for a 5/75 warranty. Be sure to get a quote from your local American Automobile Association office. Remember, though, if you buy a warranty it is only as good as the company behind it and many policies have a lot of exclusions, so "buyer beware".

    Mr. Vivona
  • tcole3tcole3 Member Posts: 10
    Thanks for the information. I think you are right, I will just put the money in a "car fund". I really love this car and plan on keeping it for a while. I am having all the service work done at the dealer and will probably stay with them after the warranty runs out. They are really good at fixing little things with no charge and the service is excellent. So far I am really happy with my car. I appreciate the honest answers you provide.

    Thanks again!!

    Happy Holidays
    Theresa
  • vivonavivona Member Posts: 410
    I did my annual visit to the auto show which always includes my review of cars in the entry luxury field. This review only includes those things that can be evaluated on a car parked on the show floor, so it does not involve a test drive. In any event, if a car fails to pass this test, there is usually no reason to move on to driving it. Thought I am not in the market for a new car (I love my 1999 Diamante and will keep it at least 6 more years) I like to keep up with what is available.

    As with past years, if I had to do all over again, I would buy a Diamante. Diamante does the best job of meeting all the criteria that is important to me.

    As to the 2003, I carefully looked over the VRX and LS models on display and only noted two very small changes. One is there are some extra items in the engine bay, probably to meet emission laws. The other is the presence of a pass-through from the trunk. Though the lack of one hasn't been much of an issue for me, I did note that it would not be hard to retrofit a 1997 to 2002 Diamante. All you would have to do is buy the pass-through door assembly from the dealer's parts department, remove the rear seatback and cut a hole in the metal and mount the door. The tricky part is getting the measurements right so it lines up perfectly with the back of the center fold-down armrest. You would also have to be careful to avoid any wiring harness that may be present. I don't have any immediate plans to pursue this, but if any Diamante owners really need a pass-through, this would be something worth trying.

    Mr. Vivona
  • mariposarosadamariposarosada Member Posts: 54
    Traded in my pearl white 94 for an 95 Olds Aurora with far fewer miles.
  • vivonavivona Member Posts: 410
    For those that may be interested, I have several articles on the Diamante that can be read at:

    http://www.geocities.com/diamanteowner/diamonds.htm

    I haven't written any more articles for a while because I am waiting to see if the main Diamante Owners Group site at http://www.geocities.com/diamanteowner/ will remain active, or if the several new ones getting started will "take over".

    Mr. Vivona
  • loozianagrlloozianagrl Member Posts: 1
    I just bought a new 2003 Diamante and just wanted to tell everyone that I LOVE IT!!!!!

    It's a 4 DR LS, Beige w/ leather Interior. It's the only car that I liked for driving as well as good looks.

    I test drove just about everything else out there, and the Diamante had a nice smooth ride, quiet cabin, and I loved the interior.

    Other cars, like Honda Accord and Toyota Camry, were just plain, run-of-the-mill cars with sparse and chaeply made interiors.

    The Diamante is great, and I look forward to coming here to get advice from you veteran Diamante owners.

    Loozianagrl
  • regfootballregfootball Member Posts: 2,166
    congrats.....glad you see that the Diamante is nice alternative to Cars like Camry and Accord....for something unique and different....
  • vivonavivona Member Posts: 410
    Congratulations on your new Diamante!

    Every year I check out all the near luxury cars at the auto show and I always come away with the same conclusion: If I had it to do all over again, I would still buy a Diamante.

    The styling of the Diamante is timeless and you will still like looking at it long after the some of the current bug-eyed styling of the competitors goes out of style. But the real test is how YOU like looking at and driving the car. Not how somebody else likes their cars to look and drive. Driving feel is a very subjective experience and you did the right thing by test driving "everything else out there" and finding the car you liked to get in and drive.

    For me, the Diamante has a nicely balanced and linear feel to the handling and brakes that makes it feel like an extension of me when I drive. I really appreciate the ample interior storage - big glove box, two-tiered console, seat-back pockets, door pockets and dash bin. The interior design has the leather and wood luxury look I like, unlike the "boom box" metal plastic look that is showing up in many new cars. I could go on and on...

    And four years of trouble-free driving certainly adds to my owner satisfaction.

    I look forward to your participation on this site.

    Mr. Vivona
  • regfootballregfootball Member Posts: 2,166
    sure, whatever.

    yes, the design is old.....the D is not a contender in the entry lux category anymore like it was in 97......but now, it can entirely be considered as a nice alternative to a Camry or Accord. It has both trumped on the style card. The d has more hp than the Camry but not as much as Accord. The interior and exterior design are cleaner and more attractive than the Camry. The Honda trumps it in interior design.

    If you buy a Diamante like I did, you know you are not getting a class leader. And many people buy the Diamante for styling, with its crisp lines. And recently with 0% for 6 years to some it makes financial sense in a purchase over Accrod or Camry. I bought mine used and paid 15 grand for a 2002 with 11k miles on it. At 15k in dollars its a helluva step up from the GM midsize garbage that one could otherwise buy with 15 grand. Even a new Diamante with incentives is still a decent buy compared to other competitors. A new VR-X for example is an alternative to spending 5-7 grand more on a TL. Its nowhere near as good, but does a good job of portraying the same image.

    So admittedly, its not top of the heap, but it won't embarass the owner by driving one either.
  • regfootballregfootball Member Posts: 2,166
    and yes the interior layout is wonderful.....clean legible gauges, MANY cupholders, handbrake right there....lots of storage....simple radio controls, nice climate control, actually I still prefer the D interior over a new accord now that i think about it again...the LS still has the lexus like gauges right?

    cupholders in front of the shifter are a godsend and more manufacturers should put them here.
  • ficussficuss Member Posts: 541
    After leasing a Diamonte for almost 4 years, the only problem I had was a bad horn. So I went back to Mitsu to look at the new D. Was disapointed to see no changes. Then they showed us a VR-X. Took it for a test drive and was pleased with the changes inside. Was left a little wanting because of the plastic look of the console and exposed cupholders ahead of the shifter. Also disapointed that heated front seats were not available in the VR-X. Helloo....it gets cold in Chicago. Steering was very crisp and fast. Wheels could be sportier. And tires need to be changed to something other than Goodyear Eagles. I'm still thinking about it.

    Frank
  • regfootballregfootball Member Posts: 2,166
    http://www.fastlane.com.au/News_Mitsubishi/NZ_COTY_2002.htm

    but I thought you fellow Diamante owners would get a kick out of it.
  • vivonavivona Member Posts: 410
    Thanks for the link.

    In the US where the automotive press largely ignores the Diamante, it is nice to see somebody, even if it is offshore, giving it a favorable mention.

    I have been surprised and frustrated at the way the US automotive press has either ignored the Diamante, or given it a bad review for rather meaningless reasons. For instance, Car & Driver in a review of entry luxury cars a couple of years ago admitted all 8 or 9 models reviewed were equal and there was not a bad car among them. They stated that because the cars were all winners, their ranking was based on the personal preference of their testers.

    Rather than rank all cars as tied for first place, they did rank them in a numerical order and they listed the Diamante in last place because even though it did not have any negative qualities, it didn't achieve first place in any of the tests. That meant that the writers had nothing to be particularly surprised about, I guess. The Diamante ranked in the middle of most test scores. The other cars that had at least one first place test ranking also had some notable negative characteristics, such as road noise, braking distance, cost, reliability, etc. The difference between being mid ranked in the test results and achieving the top place in one of the tests was, for all normal driving conditions, a meaningless difference. But the negative characteristics mentioned for all the other cars were the kind of things that would create owner dissatisfaction in normal driving.

    C&D admitted the Diamante was without flaws. And they admitted that their rankings were just their own preferences and that any of the cars was just wonderful, but the last place ranking was perceived by their readers as saying the Diamante was a bad car -- ranked last in its field. Not much journalistic integrity in my opinion.

    I wrote a letter to the C&D editor taking them to task for the article, but they never replied or published the letter.

    I can post that letter, and other letters I have written to automotive reviewers regarding the Diamante, if there is any interest. Anybody want to see them?

    Mr. Vivona
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