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  • honda888
    stever,

    I tried to search for a pricing forum at edmunds for the 2016 or 2017 Prius but couldn't find it.
    Did i miss it?
    December 2016
    • stever
      stever
      We don't automatically create a pricing discussion for every car every year. Here's the one I just made for the 2017 Prius.

      https://forums.edmunds.com/discussion/44009/toyota/prius/2017-toyota-prius-prices-paid

      You are welcome to create your own discussions as well using the New Discussion button.
  • honda888
    hi stever!

    I've heavily researched the accord exl (was able to get offer for $2700 under invoice) and now turning my eye to the crv exl.
    Can i expect to get the same deal for crv? Socal area.

    ty!
    December 2016
    • stever
      stever
      I don't think so, but you might get kind of close. CR-Vs are really popular and SUVs and crossovers are selling better than sedans. TMV is $800 back of invoice. But odd things happen at the end of the year and with the 2017 CR-V coming out "soon" (today?), there should be deals on the 2016s still in stock.

      So go for it - I tend to underestimate deals and am often pleasantly surprised by smart shoppers.
    • honda888
      honda888
      ty!

      Stever, if you had to pick a CRV or Mazda CX-5, which one would you pick sir?
      Both are about the same price depending on the options and both get about the same MPG on paper.
      They say the Mazda is more 'fun' to drive but i heard the Honda has a better resale so i'm on the fence really.
      Curious your thoughts.
    • stever
      stever
      Tough call - it's hard to go wrong with most any car these days. It's been about 3 years since I've test driven either. At that time the CX-5 impressed me more. We drove a Sport version and my wife didn't like it and didn't like me slinging the car around the corners. I liked the lane change feature in the '17 Civic we recently drove so for us it'd probably boil down to the safety nannies available. We drive them forever so resale isn't on our radar but you're right about resale being better on Hondas. But you gotta drive what you like.
  • jklentzin
    Hi. You had posed that you saw an Accord in Socal at a great price. Where would that be?
    I am looking for a 2017 (or 2016) Accord Coupe EX with sensing. Target price is $21.5
    Do you think that is doable?

    Thanks!
    December 2016
    • stever
      stever
      Hey @jklentzin, thiis was the post:

      https://forums.edmunds.com/discussion/comment/5285732/#Comment_5285732

      You may want to PM @honda888 for the dealer info since he didn't post that.

      Someone else just got a quote for a Civic Coupe back in DC and I thought the price was a bit high. Maybe Coupes sell better, don't know.

      MSRP is $28,835 and Invoice is $26,449. TMV for 90210 is $25,820 for the EX Coupe with Sensing. All those numbers include the destination.

      $21.5 would be more than 20% off invoice and I don't think that's doable on a 2017. 15% off may even be tough ($~$24.5). $3,000 off invoice would bet $23,500. Don't see that happening with a 2016 either - 15% off MSRP ($27,580) would be ~$23.6.

      Please keep us posted as you gather your quotes.
  • harshit9090
    Hi Steve,

    I am looking to buy 2016 Toyota RAV4 XLE with all the features.

    Dallas area dealer gave me a quote of $27,000 out of the door after dealer discount, rebates etc. This is for 2016 Rav4 XLE with convenience package, tonneau cover, carpet and cargo mat. Is it possible I can get it for $25,000 OTD since 2017 models are out.

    Thanks.
    December 2016
    • stever
      stever
      Hi Harshit, I dunno if $25k is possible OTD. An online friend was trying to buy a '16 RAV4 last month (also an XLE as well as an LE) and she looked from Texas through Louisiana and elsewhere and couldn't find a dealer willing to go to bat for her on price. Looks like your selling price is around $25,400, assuming 6.25% taxes there.

      $25,400 is well under the TMV average there of $27,627 (including destination and the $1,000 incentive) and about 15% off MSRP. That's very good for a Toyota and very good for Texas. Another $1,000 bucks off the selling price would put you around 18% off and we usually only see that for slow selling cars. But it doesn't cost anything to ask if the dealer can come down a bit more.

      Good luck and please let me know what kind of deal you wind up with.
    • harshit9090
      harshit9090
      Thank you for your help and information. Sure will let you know what deal I got.
  • mike_michael
    Hi Steve,

    I am looking to buy Mazda Cx-5 Touring or Toyota RAv4 XLE. Feeling Cx-5 is better. Can you please advise what is a good price to look for Cx-5 Touring . Zipcode 32246 Florida.
    December 2016
    • stever
      stever
      Hi Mike, Invoice is $25,400, MSRP is $26,115 and TMV for your zip is $24,173. All numbers include the $900 destination, no options, and TMV includes a $500 incentive.

      So TMV is $1,200 off invoice. I think I'd aim for $23,500 for my lower end target - that's 10% off MSRP. The typical range is 8 to 12% off invoice. Getting some quotes first would give you an idea of what dealers are more aggressive.

      The trick with Florida is high doc fees, usually $500 to $1,000. Any doc fee over $50 is too much and is just extra dealer profit.

      Good luck and please let me know how it goes.
    • mike_michael
      mike_michael
      Thanks Steve.Appreciate it.
      What would be an approximate okay out of the door price for car price of $23500..That would give me an idea if dealers try to fool me with doc, tax, and other additional prices.
    • stever
      stever
      We say your taxes are 7.5% and DMV fees are around $180. Sometimes our fee chart is off, so you may want to double-check with DMV. (goo.gl/HoikK8)

      I get $25,442 - throw in some doc fees and you'd wind up at $25,500.

      Earl Stewart Toyota is a fun site to check out down in N. Palm Beach. He's a one-price shop so his prices are a bit high if you decide to compare his RAV4 numbers with the CX-5, but his blurb about doc fees is worth a read.
    • mike_michael
      mike_michael
      Thanks Steve for quick reply..I was out today with different car dealers.. Mazda didnt come below 27500.. They have 800 document fee + 650 dealer fee etc..
      Checked out 2016 Honda CRV EXL and after negotiations,they came down to 27500 out of door. Wondering if it is a good deal. I am considering waiting for 2017 EXL as i really like Honda Sense features (adaptive cruise control,lane assist etc). Do you think I would be able to make a deal near the OTD price of 27-29k for new 2017 EXL in the first couple of months once it is in market. Like the CRV after my first test drive today and feels more comfortable than CX5.But really confused whether to go with 2016 model or wait couple of months for 2017. This i my first new car purchase and I would really appreciate your advise.
      Thanks once again.
    • stever
      stever
      We shopped a Civic Hatch last month and if we were going to get one, we'd wait for the Sense stuff too. The 2017 Hatch is out but not with that option package. I would wait because of those features, but I'm getting older and "need" them. :-)

      TMV on the 2016 CR-V EX-L is right at $27,000. 10% off MSRP would get you down to $25,600.

      My guess is that when the '17s arrive, you'll still be able to get a deal for around 8% off MSRP and that should be under $29k OTD. And if you can wait, you may be able to snag one of the few remaining 2016s if for some reason the 2017 prices are nuts. Your color choices will be slim though.

      Not sure what to tell you about Florida doc fees other than to go buy in Virginia....
    • mike_michael
      mike_michael
      Thanks so much Steve. I will wait for couple of months to see how new crv price comes around. Hopefully 2017 models will come out by Jan end.
  • honda888
    stever!
    I'm shopping for accord exl im 92647
    best offer so far is 25,300.
    Can i do better?
    December 2016
    • stever
      stever
      MSRP is %29,665, Invoice is $27,461 and the TMV average for your zip is $26,813. All my numbers include the $835 destination.

      Your offer is $2,161 below invoice and about 15% under MSRP. That's a great number and I'd grab it!

      You can play with the numbers here - https://goo.gl/G8sDer.

      The nice thing about California is that doc fees are limited to $80.
  • paru
    steve:

    what will be a good price , zip code 44124 for camry xle v6 with jbl,navigation

    thank you

    paru
    November 2016
    • stever
      stever
      Sorry Paru, overlooked my PMs. Are you still shopping?
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