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  • Gary is right, both about getting good mileage, and about the hypermilers giving you good tips. I'm not a hypermiler -- I'm more of a mediocre-miler -- but I can tell you what I would expect, mileage-wise. - If you travel at 65mph on your commute,…
  • 2005 HCH CVT, currently with 10,000 miles Winter: - City, 6 mile commute, 44-46 MPG - Highway, 50-52 MPG Spring: - City, 6 mile commute, 46-48 MPG - Highway, 50-52 MPG Driving style: pretty low-key, and I tend to stay close to the speed limits no…
  • The empirical evidence from this and other forums is that after about 5000 miles or so, most folks get better mileage than they did when they first bought the car. This could be a result of: - learning how to drive more efficiently - different sea…
  • The average mileage for the honda civic hybrid seems to be somewhere between 42 and 46, based on real people's mileage in databases elsewhere and at www.fueleconomy.gov. City driving is the most sensitive to particular conditions, and your mileage …
  • Thanks aero_eng for the great description. For me, it seems like the effect on mileage only kicks in above a certain speed, somewhere above 60 or 65 mph. In other words, at 55 mph on the freeway I get about 54 mpg; at 65 mph on the freeway, I get …
  • Great thread!   I traded in my 2002 Honda Civic Si (the hatchback) with a 2.0L iVTEC which averaged 26 MPG (mostly city).   Replaced it with a 2005 Honda Civic Hybrid CVT which is averaging 45 MPG (mostly city).
  • the situation you are describing is normal This is of course true; presumably it was determined by the designers that there is more cost for stopping and starting the car as it creeps forward over and over again. It will also cause you to get out …
  • If it's what I think it is, then it is both normal and one of my favorite things about the car. Makes me feel like I'm George Jetson on the way to work! Is it sort of a "bbbrrrrrrrrRRRRRRR" sound, rolling the r's on your tongue? (Sorry, that's th…
  • asteele, Good luck in your search for the right car. I have the HCH with CVT, but I only have about 8000 miles, so I can't really comment on the reliability. However, since a few MT folks have posted, I thought I'd weigh in with my opinion. Aft…
  • After 31K miles the only thing I am having problems with are rattles.   Did you (or the dealer) have success eradicating the rattles? My HCH has had a moderate rattle on the dashboard on the far left side by the window since I bought it, and I'…
  • "She may have meant that the seats on a Civic she owns were more comfortable than the hybrid seats." I have no doubt that's what she meant. That's not the point at all. The point is that this is not an issue related to the Honda Civic Hybrid. It…
  • "Obviously. But it makes no difference" Sorry, that sounded kind of snarly. What I should have said was, "Yes, I thought of that. But it makes no difference..." Sorry about that.
  • "Her ICE Civic might be a different model year... " Obviously. But it makes no difference. There is no such thing as a Honda Civic Hybrid seat -- they are the same for all Honda Civic models for that year. If she is going to complain then about …
  • "I have found the seats, on long trips, to be very uncomfortable in the Honda Hybrid. I did NOT find this problem with my regular Honda Civic. Barb" Barb - They are the same seats. Honda does not have special 'hybrid' seats.
  • Aw c'mon, Gary. I have read your posts for quite a while now, and even though I sometimes disagree with you, I have found you to be fair, polite, and rational. And you offer insights and viewpoints that I might not have considered. And, I get the…
  • I'm pretty certain that all of those old claims against Audi, related to "SUA" or Sudden Unintented Acceleration", were refuted by mechanics and scientists. The conclusion, as I recall it, was that you cannot move a car forward, no matter how hard …
  • Sorry but I don't have a price paid or a buying experience: one reason being that you can't get a VW TDI in California due to emissions restrictions.   So my question is: when will these autos be available in CA?
  • Thanks for the writeup and tutorial, kmh3. I would think that if you use these techniques consistently, you will be getting about 60 MPG. As a bit of a counter-example, in my HCH, with cruise control set at 65 MPH, I always get over 50 MPG -- usua…
  • Thanks for your quick response. Here are a couple more thoughts, adding to what has already been written. - I think when your temps get to around 70, you will notice a big difference, especially in city driving. I have noticed an increase of abou…
  • In city driving, going from traffic signal to traffic signal, it seems like you have a couple of options: - go very slow to conserve fuel - stay up with the pack in order to make green lights I found that if I lag behind, with the way that traffic…
  • You might also ask in ...   Thanks for the pointer! I followed your advice and posted the question over there.
  • Sorry for this somewhat regional question, but: what do you folks know about "winter gas" that they apparently sell in CA, if not in other states?   I have heard that it is oxygenated, which reduces pollution in older cars, but results in poorer …
  • I thought we had all agreed that the Consumer Reports article with the alleged rating of the HCH at 26mpg was a typo that originated in some magazine article, and got copied from place to place. The real CR rating for the HCH is 36mpg, which still …
  • It is largely determined by your driving conditions. What solar_dad says is entirely true. If I travel at 65 mph on a freeway, I can't help but get 50-54 mpg. If I take a 1 mile, hilly trip to the store and back, I will get under 40 mpg. And on …
  • city: 45 mpg highway: 50 mpg 2005 honda civic hybrid CVT
  • Sorry to millie1, I don't have any advice, other than beginning to move up the dealer/manufacturer food chain. It seems like Toyota would be interested in fixing your problem, even if your dealer isn't. Toyota would probably be interesting in hear…
  • quote: "Do you know anyone with an HCH that has a very short 3-4 mile commute."   I'm not exactly that, but close. My commute is 5 miles. It includes elevation changes, two stop signs, and 10 traffic lights (which naturally always conspire agai…
  • Perhaps if they were in the news and advertised like the other cars you see all the time... During prime-time TV hours, I keep seeing the Honda hybrids commercial for Insight, Civic, and Accord. (Actually, I "glimpse" the commercial as I Tivo past…
  • There aren't all that many configurations to support due to engine sharing   Yes, that's a good point.   Frankly, I'd be happiest if just about every automobile had a hybrid option. Along those lines, I just read today that some analysts pred…
  • Consider that automakers are interested in profitability above all...   I understand what you are saying, and I probably agree with most of it. I was just speculating that if the adoption rate is going to be 5% of the market, why not target a se…
  • If it is true that hybrids will account for only 5% of the market even that far into the future, it makes me wonder sometimes if the automakers are choosing the right vehicles into which to put hybrid technology. It seems like many, if not most, fo…
  • Quote: "Would you want to sell something you were losing money on?"   Would you want to *advertise* something you were losing money on?   For those how missed it, Honda had a significant commercial during the NFC playoffs yesterday touting t…
  • I agree. I'm a pleased-as-punch HCH owner and I almost always am on the side of 'hybrid' in these discussions. But I applaud GM for making the hybrid they have. And I applaud their investments in other technologies. They may be late, but IMO the…
  • Gary, congratulations on your purchase! I'm sure you will love the truck, especially with all those goodies. And from the standpoint of domestic tranquility, you have made a wise purchase as well. :-) I always enjoy reading your posts, and even t…
  • The only highway trip I made was to Tucson AZ last weekend and got 36MPG on the way down and 41MPG back. Interesting. I just realized that in my 2002 Honda Civic Si (2.0L), traveling across Arizona from LA to Phoenix a number of times, I always av…
  • This thread is about the HAH right?   Please don't leave! Seriously. You are absolutely correct that there is way too much noise on this forum. But the more sane people leave, the more noise.   And you are also correct that people have to s…
  • don't worry that others may or may not pay less   I agree wholeheartedly. Enjoy the car, and enjoy being one of the early adopters of a trend that seems to be catching on: performance and fuel economy. Personally I think you made a great choice…
  • WHAT HAPPENED ?   Economics 101 happened. Supply caught up with demand.   I purchased my 2005 HCH for $500 over invoice back in November for the same reason -- the fleet dealer had a few in stock and wanted to sell them.   Why hasn't thi…
  • There's no need to put other people down just because they don't own a HAH, or a Honda. You can enjoy your own car without belittling others.   Amen to that. And not only that, but belittling others makes me even less inclined to listen to your…
  • Sorry for this somewhat regional question, but: what do you folks know about "winter gas" that they apparently sell in CA (in the winter, of course), if not in other states?    I have heard that it is oxygenated, which reduces pollution in older…