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That Buick Blackhawk is incredible - I sure hope that car makes it into production. The retro look is hot these days. Ford's concept 49er and production 2002 T-Bird, Chevy's upcoming SSR, the PT Cruiser and Beetle - great reminders of the past with all the latest technology. The long hood on that Blackhawk and the retractable hardtop are SEXY.
What's Pontiac got on the drawing board? I haven't seen anything yet from them that looks like anything mentioned above. The Aztek is an Halloween prank. There's a Piranha making rounds at the car shows that is very futuristic and Gen X targeted. But no retro looks that I've seen yet.
Have a great day, everyone
Ken
Ken
But that is pretty much it. Just about every other gadget on the Ultra is available on the LeSabre. Ultra is a bigger car, but truthfully, not that much bigger. Heck, even the Bonneville and LeSabre are only a tad larger than the GP and Regal lines.
- vtech83
- vtech83
Back to counting those beans.
Ken
No dice on the MAF yet. When I ordered they told me I was six out, now I am next. Apparently they can't get cores back quick enough. Their service sucks regardless, just like everyone said it would.
I do have to say they offer some unique items that no one else has, and they seem to be top quality. Their underdrive pulleys are first class, and the throttle body spacer is nice as well.
The following mods are scheduled for this weekend:
- GTP dipstick (still haven't solved the header clearance issue)
- underdrive pulleys
- AFPR
- experimentation with various fuel pressures
Goal = 5.25 second 0 to 60 time
Next weekend (March 3rd) is a big one for the SSEi. The following mods are scheduled:
- heads (ported and polished plus oversized exhaust valves)
- spark plug indexing
- lower intake (ported)
- supercharger (S-ported)
- more fuel pressure experimentation
- slotted front brake rotors
- ceramic brake pads (front and rear)
Goal = 4.99 second 0 to 60 time and short 60 to 0 distance
March 10th weekend:
- 3.0" supercharger pulley
- Stage 2 MAF
- throttle body spacer
- more fuel pressure experimentation
- test drag radials at various pressures
Goal = 4.75 second 0 to 60 time
March 24th weekend:
- 1.7 to 1 roller rocker arms
- more fuel pressure experimentation
- buy helmet and racing fuel for next weekend
Goal = one Bad SSEi
National Trails Raceway opens April 1st. We're certainly gonna surprise a few people!!!
Scott
INTENSE!!!, hey! even I'm getting excited about these planned mods - and I only understand just about 1/2 of what you're talking about.
BTW, our van's repair bills are hitting the $thousands and logic dictates that we put it out of our misery and look for something else. We're questionning the need for a minivan and there's this '99 GP GTP that's available for a song. Sorely tempted. Did I say it was black?..... I'm open to any suggestions for a reliable, fun 2nd car that doesn't do daily duty.
My money is still on Goodyear Tire & Rubber Co. stock options.
Sport Edition
Sport Luxury Edition
Super Sport Edition
as for the i??? Came in early 90s i think. Find what year and what changed and maybe. First year for the Super maybe So in that case induction.
1/4 mile, can be help with horsepower.
Rule of Thumb for 1/4 mile:
traction shaves time
HP add trap speed
So a slow launch with lots of HP after traction is established can help.
Wonder what it woould take to lock the diff in the tranny?
Transaxle - OK, so it's going to break soon and in a bad way.
I realize I am probably being overly optimistic. Can't help it - that's my nature. When they told me 18" wheels wouldn't fit, that made me want them more. When they told me headers wouldn't fit, I had to get them ordered. When they said a 3.0" exhaust would slow me down, I HAD to prove them wrong. This is how I operate. I enjoy swimming upstream.
The i stands for supercharged. One of you multi-lingual folks can help me remember the German (or maybe Italian) word that is abbreviated with i.
Since the entire Bonneville line-up had been fuel injected for years before the "i" showed up, it would be strange if it stood for the Italian "injezione". Still, VW, BMW and others continue to use the "i" designation (which originally indicated fuel injection) on their sportier models long after fuel injection was available on their entire lines. So, this may yet be the explanation.
WHAT'S UP WITH THE SMALL "i". must be some bad euro influence.
WHEN YOU EXPERTS COME UP WITH THE CORRECT ANSWER LET US KNOW.
YOU CAN "PHONE A FRIEND".
For those of you who have never seen the torque and hp curves for the series II engine - supercharged or otherwise - check out this link: http://media.gm.com/product/pontiac/01pontiac/bonneville/bonne.pdf. You must excuse my reaction here (after all, the Bonnie is my very 1st GM) but I am impressed by the flatness of this torque curve.
BTW, I had difficulties printing one of the pages (the 8th I think) but on the whole, I found the info to be the most comprehensive guides to the specifications and equipment for the SE, SLE, and the SSEi.
Snickle is right about the acronyms although I also am not sure about the "i", and rea98d is correct about the history. Additionally, there were some years that the SLE was a package that did not have its own badging. It was an SE with extras.
Scott, keep us informed on your progress. I thought I was through making modifications to my SSEi but your plans just may make me do a few more myself!
Ken
Still looking for a replacement for our minivan. I'm thinking sedan, my wife is thinking something else. Looks like she's interested in an Aztek - apparently, once you get over the looks, it's a damned fine vehicle.
Is it ever possible to get over the Aztek's looks? Please, wait and buy a Rendezvous! Much better looking, and essentially the same vehicle underneath!
Best wishes to all
Ken
I have also heard that most pre-programmed (i.e. non-custom) chips are designed for unmodified engines. If you've changed your sc pulley, for example, the chip might not deliver the full claimed hp gain. I'm sure that Jet will help answer that most basic of questions. While you're at it, ask them if the Bonneville chip negates the speed AND rev limiters?
In the end, I've decided against a chip because they require premium fuel and the claimed added hp at peak revs - which I would use only on occasion just didn't justify the added daily expense of premium fuel for my SLE (of course, that's not an issue in your SSEi). I'd be better off waiting a few years and trading up to an SSEi.
SO how do you guys like your bonnevilles, I haven't been fortunate enough to drive one yet
http://www.consumerreports.org
In my experience, consumerreports requires a paid membership to view many parts of their site. You can paste a link to something you can see, but you cannot paste the whole article because of copyright issues (addressed in your Terms of Use - link in the upper left of this page).
The link you posted is fine, but in case others cannot get to the article you had in mind without subscribing, you cannot post the article here.
Just wanted to be sure we were clear. :-)
Pat
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A 1991 SE (Ditto)
A 1994 SE with SLE Package (A sportier SE)
A 1997 SSE (A sportier, etc. SLE)
A 2000 SSEi(A sportier SLE with the supercharger)
Except....
The one that I never had was an SE with the supercharged engine. I believe this was not an option until '97. However, I don't think I have ever seen a Bonneville with the supercharged engine that was not an SSE. I'm sure that they are rare.
If anyone wants more specifics on the packages and badging since 1987, let me know.
Stephen
I know - I am obsessed with my Bonnie, so what! By the way, my dog was more impressed with this feat of skill and daring than my wife was.
Go figure???
Ken
Re. your wife's reaction: typical, really - we should never expect others to be as enthusiastic about our DIC's as we are. I'm a little worried about your dog though.
On another front, a local dealer was clearing out their 2000 SE's for $18,500 (in $US and including all Ontario taxes - which are not inconsequential). I called them and they confirmed that they're prepared to deal down from that price. Unfortunately, not too many new 2000 SSEi's floating around.....
Those prices for left-over 2000 SE models look very good. I've seen a lot of used 00's at that price and thought I'd done pretty well to get mine for $16K - looks like a new one for no more than $2K more was possible.
Ken
Yes, the Power Control Unit has been released and is available at this time. The PCU installs under the dash and the wiring must be routed to under the hood. The wires tap into the TPS Sensor and "splice" into the MAP or MAF wire. You will have to Cut the MAP or MAF wire to install the PCU. Suggested retail is $259.95.The PCU will not eliminate the speed or rev limiters.
My question is what doe sit do?
Lies about air intake, and lies about throttle position. Does it do anything else?
I can't tell. I will call them tomorrow.