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wag
what are you getting next? a tdi Jetta wagon? why don't you get a V6 Passat? don't hold a candle to the Accord/Altima HP wise, but they hold their value and are pretty darn reliable for a VW. plus, they are roomier for you. and they aren't exactly slow!
I spoke with the body shop guy who said about everything having to be replaced, and the contradiction between his estimate and the insurance company's. I am waiting for him to call me back with some sort of answer.
If they end up not totalling the car, it will be traded I get it back for something else.
I'm with you on this one. If something like this happened to my car, I'd trade it in the same day I got it back.
I had a Jeep Grand Cherokee once upon a time. It was stolen and recovered and repaired, but it NEVER ran right afterward. I traded it in after another 11 months and 9 tows into the shop.
Thanks!
Meade
good luck. but again, remember the mistake you made when buying the Jetta. don't make another one, financially i mean! listen to your elder (turning 30 soon, haha), i have been there!!
Meade: The seatbacks were melted, the instrument panel was melted along with the odometer and all the gauges, and I know the radio was blinking off and on when I saw the car last, which signifies an electrical problem somewhere. If they can fix the car right and not have any problems out of it, then I am all for it. But in most cases like this, the car's never the same. They are gonna shampoo the inside and clean the windows, but what about the smell? It's STILL in the car after sitting for 3 WEEKS outside with a window broken out! If they can get that smell out of the leather, the trunk, the dash, and everything else, then the car should be fine.
The investigator said my car has a cash value of $20,000+, not including taxes. I was surprised, even with 40K on a 2 year old car.
Stay tuned for more info as it becomes available...
I looked it up on something called GoldBook where I work, and it says retail is $19,900 even with my mileage. State Farm uses something called CCC, that's what my agent told me.
I also don't believe $2000 to replace 6 airbags, especially when 2 of them are air curtains. I am gonna try to go see the car myself tomorrow and also get the updated estimates.
Meade
Do they have as many problems as the 1.8T?
Would you purchase your car again if you could do it over?
Anything she should know?
Thanks.
Um the 1.8T's big problem is related to the coil packs which VW will replace at any time should they go bad. Beyond that my 1.8T never left me stranded. It just wasn't enough car for my tastes.
I haven't heard much that's negative about the V6. I must say though if she hasn't tried it, go check out an Acura TSX. A better car all around for nearly the same dough as a V6 equipped Jetta. Just my $0.02.
if we were talking about the old 274hp vr6, then getting the 1.8t would be a no brainer. the 1.8t is probably still the engine to get though. plenty of power, good gas mileage and more balanced handling than the vr6.
BTW, if she's looking to get a VR6 with Auto then the invoice price is $25,500. Invoice on a TSX is $24,600. Even if you can only talk 1 grand off the TSX's $26,900 sticker (which would mean you're bad at negotiating) you're at about the same price. And you get a car with more standard features and most likely better reliability.
BTW, when i was looking for a car the salesperson at an Acura dealer pointed to the sticker and said "nobody pays sticker for an acura unless they're a fool." That was the salesperson! She offered me 1k off the car before I walked away (didn't want an auto and wasn't in love with the car).
There was one thing that was dramatically different in the two cars. The TSX has zero torque steer and a very unobtrusive traction control system that would subtly feather the throttle when accelerating out of bumpy corners. The GLI had noticable torque steer and the traction control system would kick and out obtrusively and make smooth driving out of bumpy corners very choppy.
There were some aspects I liked about the GLI, but to my tastes, the TSX was clearly beter built and the better performing car. The TSX felt like a brand new, cutting-edge design (which it is) while the Jetta felt like it was getting long-in-the-tooth and needed an overhaul (which it is getting in a year or so).
- Mark
if i wanted a family sedan, i would take the basic V6 Passat. A4 front suspension = no torque steer
That is not allowed on here. :P
Tisk-Tisk!
Um, Justin, go drive one. It blows away the Jetta in pretty much every facet. Straight-line acceleration may not be there but for the same money as a GLX one could get a superior car. Heck every option comes on the TSX and things the Jetta doesn't have like Xenon, IRS, handling prowess, room for 4 adults.
if i wanted a family sedan, i would take the basic V6 Passat. A4 front suspension = no torque steer
Who said family sedan? And BTW, for 25k you're getting a pretty stripped Passat. you're also getting a slower, poor handling porker.
Until you drive a TSX you're arguing from a point of ignorance.
It also drove like a big car, it is 186 inches - that is a lot. It is a different class of car however so a comparison to the jetta isn't fair, IMO.
but, put it up against the Passat, same price points here please, and it is a different story. you can get a loaded GLX Passat for under $30k. acura can keep the xenon light and nav system....i will take my blue interior lighting and pretty exterior/interior, and proven reliability thank you.
but again, i would probably take a TSX over a JETTA. but i think everyone would. no brainer. i would also take an MDX over an Explorer though...different class of car.
At 3274 the GLX's weight matches up perfectly with the TSX. However the GLX can't handle nearly as well. The ride of the GLX is choppy and incapable of really delivering a sports sedan feel. On hard acceleration you will always get torque steer on a GLX - not so with a TSX. The interior is excessively cramped vis a vis a TSX. If we're talking MSRP's then the GLX is more expensive. And although this is subjective, every interior component in the TSX was superior to the ones in a Jetta. From the ergonomics, to the feel of the materials, the car is in another realm in terms of luxury, poise, handling, comfort, room and features.
The person came here and asked about V6 equipped Jettas. I simply pointed him toward a far better car on all levels that will cost as much or less than a GLX. Grumble all you want that they're in different classes (as if people don't cross-shop based on price), the fact is that VW's insanely high price point on the GLX puts it up against far superior offerings.
Justin, a Passat with V6, leather, Tiptronic, and stability control rings in at 29k and 26k invoice. The car still lacks many of the TSX's sport sedan equipment (17s for example, rather than cruddy 15s) or basic luxury bits (Xenon, dual climate control). And I'm not even gonna touch the Passat's wretchedly porky handling.
No nav listed by the way. Navigation systems on cars are insanely overpriced. 2k for an lcd, gps and dvd? That's about $200 in parts...max. Talk about a racket.
and of course the TSX has no torque steer - you have to have TORQUE to have torque steer. you saw that comment coming though, right? come on, you HAD to...
and lastly, lets get a little real here, you didn't buy a TSX, did you? ain't all that after all, is it? haha.
After my 20 test drives or so I can say I gave most makes a fair shake. I'm an anti-honda guy but a founder at my company (a porsche owner) convinced me to try the TSX because he bought one for his girlfriend and loves the car.
BTW, I clearly pointed out the V6 passat with leather, tip and ESP had an invoice of 26k. Is that loaded? It doesn't seem so considering it still lacks many luxury features.
Jettas for 20-22k are great little cars (far above their traditional econo-box competitors) but once you break into the mid-20s you're up against a whole different group. It's not much car for 25k, IMO.
Has anyone bought a Jetta GLX in NC/VA recently? How much did youy pay?
Thank you,
Danny
If your going to complain about the TSX's lacking torque, you might as well think the Jetta's 1.8t is lacking too. Every body (even some published road tests) notices that the TSX peak torque is at 4500 rpms, but don't notice that 90% of it is available as low as 2000 rpms. You can throw in electronic throttle response and no turbo lag.
The Passat matches up more with the Accord than the TSX. Both the Passat and Accord have their own strengths. But, I will go for a v6 accord ex for the price of 1.8t GLS Passat any day though. The gauges on the new accord are a delight even if they're not Blue. The gauges on the TSX are awesome and even have Blue lighting.
The TSX just has a pretty interior in every aspect. The Passat no doubt has a well assembled interior with high quality parts, but the layout looks dated with not the best ergonomics.
Were talking about the some pretty darn good cars here that come down to personal tastes. Were not talking chevy impala or buick regal here.
That is why you have a price difference.
Basically certain people just look for certain things in a car. Each car (jetta and tsx) have their own strengths.
VW has a 12-year UNLIMINTED MILAGE warantee from the factory.
Honda does not back up their vehicles like that.
Lets compare the VW / HONDA after going thru 12 years of Vermont winters and see which vehicle will pass the state inspection.
I will even let you apply RUST PROTECTION to the Honda before we start this experiment ;-) (I have tried this too... the Honda still rusts into a flintstone-mobile)
Why 12 years? I takes me at least that long to save up enough cash to purchase the next vehicle 8-)
i am seeing so many of those platinum gray ones around here it is getting disgusting. used to be my favorite color on them...
If you want the VR6 the best you're gonna do is about 23k for a GLI. If you can't drive stick then it's the GLX.
I will recommend to her that she at least test drive a TSX to see if it suits her.
Thanks again.
an i4 accord or 6 are not as fast as their v6 companions, but are more balanced cars. the penalty for being FWD.
houstonship: keep us posted on the car she eventually gets.
I heard from the body shop on Friday, and they had sent the car for a thorough cleaning. They need to find out if the dash needs replacing or not, they haven't decided yet. They did start the car and put it in gear, and it wouldn't move, the guy said. Wonderful. He said it was probably becaue of all the stuff being disconnected inside, but that remains to be seen. They still have not done the 3rd estimate. Friday was 4 weeks.
The body shop guy also said all the parts were on order, and I should get the car back in another month or 2. Since they have to replace the gauges anyway, I am going to probably get the GLX cluster with the trip computer put in. It's about the same price as the GLS one, so why not? A little extra bonus for going through all this crap...
- Anthony
The Monsoon stereo doesn't seem real great. Has anyone upgraded this stereo system in any way? I'm thinking new speakers, subwoofer, or some combination thereof. I don't want anything crazy, but just something with nice clean sound. I also don't want to spend a bunch. I'm spoiled in my FX35 (the Bose unit in that is absolutely outstanding - comparable to the Mark Levinson in the Lexus). I just would like something a little better in the VW. Any advice is appreciated. Thanks!
To add to the list of replacements: Basically everything inside but the door panels and dashboard. The interior handles, visors, headliner, radio, stalks (I think), auto shifter, front and rear seats, and carpeting will be new in the car. Still waiting on a 3rd (or 4th, I have lost count by now) estimate on the car, still rests at $6000.
They said I might be lucky to get the car back by August or September... (insert tears here)...