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Honda Prelude 1997-2002



  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 7,111
    The oil pressure has to be up and the engine has to be warm and the throttle has to be planted for the VTEC to kick in...

    Good Things Come To Those Who Wait. I'm waiting for 1000 miles...only another few hundred to go.

    That guy on the Civic Si board (aposts) really lucked out huh? A credit to the chassis development department at Honda.

    2001 Honda Prelude Type SH/ 2011 BMW 328xi / 2011 Honda Pilot EX-L w/ Navigation

  • himilerhimiler Posts: 1,209
    You're absolutely correct on the temperature thing. No engine heat, no VTEC, ballooned head.

    But, the throttle does not need to be planted in oder to engage VTEC. At part-throttle, VTEC just engages later in the rev range. 5200RPM is the earliest it will kick in without adding a VFAC (variable fuel/air controller).

    As aposts has demonstrated, the SI is porky for a good reason.
  • Oh, I've given up on the SL board. When a guy says that 450hp Mercedes don't have wheelspin just because they have a star on the front hood, you know it's time to stop arguing.

    Prelude is doing great and actually receiving the lion's share of the daily driving. I'm settling into a routine, actually. I wake up early and drive to work and back--Prelude. When I get home, I feel an irresistable urge to get in the S2000 and drive somewhere... usually it's a made-up errand:

    "Uh oh, I only have three weeks of toothpaste left in this tube... I better make a quick trip to the supermarket in the S2000."

    Then I come back home, derring do, then the usual 10-11pm workout at the gym where the Prelude once again takes over because my arms are often shot after lifting and the S2000 for some reason feels a lot less safe to drive when your forearms feel like jello.

    Someone on the "Honda Thing" thread suggested getting rid of cars like the Prelude, S2000, NSX, Civic Si, etc. Over my dead body I say.
  • It was varmint. Don't worry, I have the Toyotathon tape around here somewhere!!!

    Here's the secret: if you pay enough, you can escape the laws of physics... no wheelspin!! Isn't that cool or what? Goes with retractable roofs...
  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 7,111
    I'm actually suprised with some of his less than educated answers. I've read some of his posts on other MB boards and while he is a die-hard MB guy, he seems to know what he is talking about and usually backs it up.

    Great comment about having plenty of popcorn. I'm sure his blood pressure raised a bit from that one.

    Welcome back!

    2001 Honda Prelude Type SH/ 2011 BMW 328xi / 2011 Honda Pilot EX-L w/ Navigation

  • himilerhimiler Posts: 1,209
    Jeez, I'm almost sorry I missed the SL500 chat.
  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 7,111
    an epic battle for sure!

    2001 Honda Prelude Type SH/ 2011 BMW 328xi / 2011 Honda Pilot EX-L w/ Navigation

  • Who needs Hollywood?!

    Grand Prix coupe died too. Eventually you'll need to spend
    as much money as a SL500 requires to get a decent coupe/convertible/sporty car, eh? >:( I mean, in the very
    near and scary future.

    Did Prelude people REALLY gravitate to the Civic/Accord/CL/RSX coupes??
  • himilerhimiler Posts: 1,209
    Not this one!

    Most people who bought the 5th gen Prelude did so because they understood the fundamental differences between it and the Civic/RSX (Integra)/Accord trinity. I think the CL falls more into the "personal luxury" coupe class than "sport coupe" -- it's just so heavy.

    When the time came for me to replace my '98 GS-R, I immediately recognized the Prelude's abilities as superior to those found in the RSX-S. It wasn't even close.

    At same the time, there was no Accord V6 with a manual tranny, no performance oriented Civic (to much of a rental car feel now, anyway), and the CL-S 6spd. was still six months away.

    However, if the Acura TSX had been available when I was shopping, I dare say it would've been on my short list, ahead of the RSX-S.
  • himilerhimiler Posts: 1,209
    If I had to replace my Prelude today, I'd try to hold out for the RX-8 or just snag a 350Z.

    Sadly, there isn't a single model in the current Acura/Honda line-up that would keep me in the family.

    Honda had better get cracking on a S2000 coupe, or I'm gone.
  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 7,111
    I've pretty much wanted a Prelude since the 4th gens came out in 1992 (Even the 1990-1991 3rd Gens are nice looking). When the 5ht generation was introduced in 1997 I knew I wanted one. I was so mad when I read the Prelude was being discontinued at the end of 2001 that I gave up all hope of ever owning one. I even ripped up my 2001 Prelude brochure which I had been saving for some odd reason or another.

    Since I'm pretty impressed with the Euroness (Well weighted steering, excellent road feel, tightly wound suspension, excellent sheet metal/paint quality...) of my Saab, I figurered I'd go all out and go for a BMW 325Ci, Audi A4 1.8T, Lexus IS300, or Mercedes-Benz C230K Sports Coupe. Of the 3 I decided I was going to order a BMW 325Ci via European Delivery (and tie in a vacation with my girlfriend) with a Stick, Sunroof, Heated Seats, & Sports package. I was gung ho about doing this in the fall when tourism in Europe falls and the car would be delivered to me right around the time the lease is up on my Saab (December). In the middle of April, my practical side kicked in and said "what is the purpose of buying a BMW to basically just have it sit in your parent's dirveway and drive a few times a month." My parents said to me "You only 26 years old and should wait to buy a BMW."

    I got my finances together and called a local dealer near my parents' house where I knew I'd have the car serviced. I was in contact with one of the sales managers via email and told him that I was looking for a leftover 2001 Prelude Type SH in either Red, White, or Silver. He called me back a week and a half later and told me he's found some black ones and even a blue car. I told him red, white, or silver and I'll consider a base model if you find one with a stick. Well, all the base models in our region (including the 6 on his lot) were SS. He called me one day as I was about to walk into a Rangers game at the Garden and told me he's located a car for me and needed a deposit. He said since he's doing a swap, the best price he could do for me was invoice. He said if the car had been sitting on his lot that he'd be able to give me a better deal. The Prelude is a lot cheaper than any of the competitors above. The rest is history! I LOVE MY PRELUDE!

    I'm not sure what I would have done if the Prelude couldn't be found. The Accord V6 (or Acura CL/TL) wasn't available in a stick. The styling of the RSX Type S didn't appeal to me (at the time). The RX8 is still months away and so is the 350Z for that matter (unless you want to be gouged by the dealer). Neither the Z or the RX is going to have a sunroof (which is a requirement for me).

    When the time comes to replace my Prelude down the road, I'd definitely look at the RSX Type S, CL Type S (despite it weight, it does have 260hp), The BMW 325Ci, and maybe the S2000...

    2001 Honda Prelude Type SH/ 2011 BMW 328xi / 2011 Honda Pilot EX-L w/ Navigation

  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 7,111
    Himiler...what's the Acura TSX? I haven't heard anything about it.

    2001 Honda Prelude Type SH/ 2011 BMW 328xi / 2011 Honda Pilot EX-L w/ Navigation

  • himilerhimiler Posts: 1,209
    The TSX is the car that will fill the void left by the dearly departed Integra GS-R 4-door. It's essentially a Japanese/Euro Accord with different badges. Per this month's Car & Driver, it carries a 2.4-liter i-VTEC four-banger that makes 190 HP and 163 ft/lbs of torque, mated to a 6-spd manual or 5-spd auto. Figure on Acura bumping the output up to a full 200 HP when it lands here.

    The car is 3 inches shorter in wheelbase than the US-spec Accord, but uses the same dual-control-arm front and multilink rear suspensions. (No struts, thank god!) The styling is much sleeker than the US Accord, as well.

    It'll basically be a Euro Type-R in Acura Type-S trim for around $25,000.
  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 7,111
    Hmmm...Car & Driver hasn't made it to my mailbox yet. I'll be sure to look for it when it comes in.

    2001 Honda Prelude Type SH/ 2011 BMW 328xi / 2011 Honda Pilot EX-L w/ Navigation

  • himilerhimiler Posts: 1,209
    There's a TSX discussion going in Sedans, but not much substance yet. The car looks pretty slick, for a Honda 4-door.
  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 7,111
    Are there TSX pics posted anywhere?

    2001 Honda Prelude Type SH/ 2011 BMW 328xi / 2011 Honda Pilot EX-L w/ Navigation

  • himilerhimiler Posts: 1,209 hasn't updated to show this month's content, but there were some links in the TSX discussion.
  • Like himiler, from the perspective of a Prelude owner, there's no Honda or Acura that would keep me "in the family" at this point in time. The CL-S isn't as crisp and the RSX-S isn't as refined and purposeful. If I had to replace the Prelude with another coupe, I almost certainly would focus on a 330Ci, and if I couldn't afford that then I'd get a used Prelude. There simply aren't many driver-oriented coupes on the market.
  • Hey y'all... just picked up what has to be one of the last brand new 2001's in existence. What fun, I love this car so far... can't wait 'till the break-in period is over so I can open her up.

    Just echoing what I'm hearing on this board, I was in the market for a sporty 2-door, and there was nothing out there that I could drive without

    a) looking like a teenager (RSX), or
    b) breaking the bank (BMW 3-series/Mercedes C-coupe, etc.)

    Anyway, thank God for the leftover Lude, I don't even mind that it's a 2001. There really is nothing comparable at this price range, especially from Honda/Acura.
  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 7,111
    What color/trim did you get? Base model or SE? Stick or SS? What's the build date on your car (check the driver's door)? Congrats! You're going to love it!

    2001 Honda Prelude Type SH/ 2011 BMW 328xi / 2011 Honda Pilot EX-L w/ Navigation

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