It does seem to be a bit low. If the Carfax checks out as a one owner(don't always trust it though) then there's something else at work here. Read the fine print for additional fees such as another "delivery" charge for a used car. Yep I've seen some dealers do that. Also, misc. dealer fees like a 500.00 doc prep, emission fees and other small ones add up quickly.
Carfax does show it as a one owner. the following just caught my eye on the carfax report: State safety inspection completed Pre-delivery inspection completed Body electrical wiring repaired A/C refrigerant recharged
this was at the mileage 11, even before the car was leased. i'm not sure when exactly brakepads are supposed to be replaced, but this car had both front and rear brakepads replaced after 18K miles..
Hi, I am planning on buying a Audi A4 CPO which has the piston rings replaced and is being offered as a CPO. The price is $29k Out the door. Is it a good deal and is it ok to buy a car which has a engine repair?
CarFax shows Engine removed to complete repair Piston rings replaced Cylinder head gasket replaced Radio replaced A/C refrigerant recharged
29k is not a good deal. The car is going to be 4 years old and has major issues. Withe those issues who knows what else is going to go. I would keep looking and relax there are a ton of those cars out there.
That sounds just like my old car to be honest. Mine had piston ring repairs. Personally I would not buy. If you do buy plan on possibly having your car back in the shop for something else.
Since it is CPO you will have a warranty on it for a couple of years but once that is gone. Well let me put it this way. The amplifier failed on my car and the warranty repair was $2,000.
I am currently interested in buying the 2013 A4 Quattro with the Premium Plus package. I've looked around and there seems to be a wide range of cars with different sticker prices at various dealerships. I am not really concerned with any add-ons such as the Navi or B.O. Sound System. I am just looking for the car with AWD and standard features that come with the premium plus package.
What should my estimate look like (including destination fee but without tax). I've seen a large varying rage in price from 35k-43k. I am expecting mine to be around the lower end since I don't want the extra features. Has anyone bought a similar one like the one I am describing? I would love some input.
As priced out the MSRP for an A-4 prem. plus will be 39,695 and add another 475 if it has metallic paint. We would sell you that car for 37,079 plus another 475 if it has metallic paint.
Just go to the home page of this site and you can price the car out yourself, with any option you want. It will give you the retail price and invoice price, it will not give you wholesale cost.
Working with the internet manager of a dealership:
2012 A4 2.0T Premium Plus Premium Plus Package Mileage: 2,110
Price: 35,750 (down from 36,495 on the site)
No Loyalty bonus for CPOs, so that's out. Audi offers 1.9 financing.
Quote from him: "I want to mentioned about two things here one savings of $5605, secound warranty value of $2800 versus new." (savings from MSRP of 41,350)
The warranty value of CPO so early in the life a car is indeed high if you drive a good number of miles. You have 6 yr 100k versus a brand new A4 having 4 yrs 50k. If you're under 15k miles per year, you can easily compute that you are going to run out of years before miles.
It's not a bad deal. Still, I would try to grind out another $1,000.
If you haven't pulled the trigger on the deal yet I would try to get them to move away from the notion that it is a new car and move to it being a used car.
Like it or not, the 2013 models have been out since June. So, there shouldn't be any discussion about comparison to new. I personally would look at typical depreciated 2012 prices to see what the deal shows, then add the $2,800 in for the warranty.
Speaking from experience, there is real value in an Audi warranty. I had the B&O amp replaced under warranty and that repair was $2k.
So, to me see what the comparably equipped 2012 would sell for used and go from there.
I finished my negotiation on a 2013 A4 Quattro, Glacier White/black; manual, Premium Plus, Sport Package, MMI Nav, Audi Advanced Key. MSRP: $43,320; Invoice is $40,400; My Cost: $40,250. Local dealer has to get the car from another dealer. Hopefully the deal will work out.
The current MSRP listed on the car right now is $34,600
I checked autos.aol.com for the MSRP of a new 2012 a4. That value is $35,075. (I have emailed my dealer to find out the MSRP, of when it was first sold)
The mileage on the car is close to 10,000 miles. The dealer mentioned that the car was a previous service loaner in his dealership.
2011 A4 CPO Quattro, quartz /black; automatic, Premium Plus, convenience Package. 20,120 miles one owner clean slate. Invoice $33,500 Have them down to $29,000. Audi Care included from previous owner and 6 yr warranty 100k plus and qualify for 1.9 apr is this a good deal or should I still keep pushing? Thanks for help.
Let me know when you get all the info but the price does sound very high to me. You should be able to get a 2013 for the same payment. Prices are coming down with 1.8 interest.
Hi I just recieved a quote for a 2011 A4 premium plus w/ navigation in 6 spd manual, CPO for $31, 500. Single owner with 17000 miles. The price includes all doc fees etc but does not include tax. Dealer stated that he paid 29600 for the car and certification was costing him 1400.
Retail on the car including destination was ~40500
You can not go go by what the dealer says he paid for the trade in. Those are just numbers that can be moved around to look like a good deal in any way. The buy out on that car after 3 years would be around 21k so if you pay 31k you will have a car that would wholesale at 21k after 1 year. Not a good deal. I would say the car is worth 25k tops.
I understand the lease buy out was probably 21k, but how would you even get a dealer to agree to a price like 25k? there aren't too many manuals out there in the market, let a long certified and premium plus at this price point. How much value does CPO add to the car? If you have some tips on how to negotiate please share. Thanks.
Took delivery of my A4 Quattro on 12/21/12. Car is very nice but it will take me a while to figure out all the capabilities of the MMI, NAV and Audi Connect options. The Audi Advanced Key is nice but the nicest feature are the sport seats and the 6 speed manual tranny. Dealer worked with me on several accessories; wheel locks, all weather mats and trunk liner at a nice discount. Feel very good about the deal and the car. I've been driving BMWs for over 25 years but felt it was time to try an Audi.
The purchase price for the car should be 32,500 (not counting audi care) before trade in, audi loyalty and any other discounts you may have. You have a lot more negociating to do.
Thanks for your reply. I'm getting Audi Care because I intend to purchase the car at the end of the lease. Given the lease rate, even including fees, it would actually work out to be slightly cheaper to lease the car and buy it out rather than finance it from the start. Plus, it's easier to write off the lease payment rather than figure out the depreciation on the car if I were to finance it.
As far as the cost of the car, I'm actually down to $32,300. Then there is the $1000 loyalty cash and my $500 trade in on top of that.
So price is $31,300 (inc loyalty cash) and then $500 trade in.
Sounds about right. If you are going to keep the car, I would step up to a premimum plus. Also follow this link and try to get the car at dealer invoice.
I thought about the premium plus... it would be about an extra $1400 to upgrade. Since I already am paying for the two things that I want (convenience and lighting packages), the only remaining items would be the heated seats, 60/40 rear split back, and the auto-dimming mirrors. I figured those are negligible anyway. I couldn't really care about dual zone climate... so I'd rather pocket the extra money.
I also think the dealer is trying to move this car over the premium plus from what my gut says... and that's fine for me.
I would forget about Audi Care and get the premium plus. The trim and advanced key are well worth it and you will get it all back and plus when you sell it.
From what I see on the 2013 A4, there's no advanced key standard on the premium plus... it's standard on the prestige. The only remaining difference is heated seats, auto dimming mirrors, split rear seat, multi zone climate control, and aluminum door trim. So its those options or would I rather save $1500?!?!? I'm leaning towards saving the $1500, as the only one of those options I would like is the auto dimming mirrors... the rest I don't care.
I think the price is fair... need to pull trigger today!
New to the forum here. Just wanted to ask if the following link is a good deal? I'm not familiar at all with Audis, and wanted to ask if the price of the car is decent. I will of course attempt to negotiate, but I'm not an existing or previous Audi owner or anything.
I'm not sure how you deduced that from the link I posted. If it was a good deal, I wouldn't be posting on forums, would I? Since I don't know, I asked. Thanks for your help I guess.
Make sure to ask what the processing fee is. They can charge up to I beleive it is 499.00 in Virginia. We have one with more equipment, same year and lower miles that we can do for less.
I'm new to the forum and new to leasing cars (I've been driving a 1998 camry for the last 4 years). I'm looking at a lease special on a 2013 A4 2.0T Quattro Tiptronic. Some info is below:
MSRP: $34,600 Convenience Package: $1100 Heated Front Seats: $450 Wheel Lock Kit: $100 First Aid Kit: $45 Total Price: $37,190
Lease terms are: $2995 down $1000 conquest incentive if you own a luxury car (I have a 1998 Camry...) $3995 fees total drive off 42 month 15k miles $350.54/mo out the door
Is this a good deal or how can I better negotiate this? Which parts of this lease can I negotiate and what should I be aiming for? I know this is a pretty broad question but I have no idea what to expect and would appreciate any feedback. Thanks everybody!
Great job on this forum. Really have enjoyed/appreciate all your time and comments to others. Now, it's my turn?
Which do you guys like?
I am in SoCal, buying cash. No trade.
Option A: New 2013 A4 2.0 T QUATTRO TIPTRONIC Black/Black Premium Plus Package Navigation Plus Quote: $37,000 flat + tax + tags
Option B: Used 2013 2.0T FWD MULTITRONIC Yes, a 2013. 2000 miles on it. NO CPO, original warranty only. Used 6 weeks. Owner changed mind, bought something else
Has Everyting Option A has, plus +Advanced Key +B&O Sound (which I don’t really care about) No Audi Care. Orig Owner Didn't buy.
Quote: 37,980 (+980 over the brand new) + tax + tag
Everything is negotiable in a lease. Even though you are leasing you still have to negotiate a sale price, interest rate and buyout at the end of the lease.
Use this link to find out what the sale price should be for the car
Your interest/money factor rate should be around .00064 and your residual/buyout should be 54%. You need to get everything down, your payment is way too high..
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State safety inspection completed
Pre-delivery inspection completed
Body electrical wiring repaired
A/C refrigerant recharged
this was at the mileage 11, even before the car was leased.
i'm not sure when exactly brakepads are supposed to be replaced, but this car had both front and rear brakepads replaced after 18K miles..
I am planning on buying a Audi A4 CPO which has the piston rings replaced and is being offered as a CPO. The price is $29k Out the door. Is it a good deal and is it ok to buy a car which has a engine repair?
CarFax shows
Engine removed to complete repair
Piston rings replaced
Cylinder head gasket replaced
Radio replaced
A/C refrigerant recharged
Thanks,
SS
Since it is CPO you will have a warranty on it for a couple of years but once that is gone. Well let me put it this way. The amplifier failed on my car and the warranty repair was $2,000.
Good luck.
What should my estimate look like (including destination fee but without tax). I've seen a large varying rage in price from 35k-43k. I am expecting mine to be around the lower end since I don't want the extra features. Has anyone bought a similar one like the one I am describing? I would love some input.
2012 A4
2.0T Premium Plus
Premium Plus Package
Mileage: 2,110
Price: 35,750 (down from 36,495 on the site)
No Loyalty bonus for CPOs, so that's out.
Audi offers 1.9 financing.
Quote from him: "I want to mentioned about two things here one savings of $5605, secound warranty value of $2800 versus new." (savings from MSRP of 41,350)
It's not a bad deal. Still, I would try to grind out another $1,000.
Like it or not, the 2013 models have been out since June. So, there shouldn't be any discussion about comparison to new. I personally would look at typical depreciated 2012 prices to see what the deal shows, then add the $2,800 in for the warranty.
Speaking from experience, there is real value in an Audi warranty. I had the B&O amp replaced under warranty and that repair was $2k.
So, to me see what the comparably equipped 2012 would sell for used and go from there.
http://www.edmunds.com/inventory/used/srp.html?radius=100&zip=11788&invtype=USED- - &bodyType=Sedan&model=Audi|A4+Sedan&mileage=*+TO+5000&year=2012&trim=2.0T+Premiu- - m+quattro&sort=¤tpage=1
Adding 2,800 to these prices keeps it in range.
Haven't heard anything in 2 days, I guess their internet division doesn't really keep up to date on emails.
Appreciate both of your responses. Thanks!
2.0T Premium Plus
Premium Plus Package
Navigation
Rear view camera
CPO
Mileage: 22,000
Price: $26,800 + tax + lic fee
Car fax shows, it was a leased vehicle for 3 years and had only 1 owner.
Folks, is this a good deal?
Thanks.
$29600
Packages: Convenience + Style
It was listed at $31.5K. Dealer isn't willing to come below $29600.
Is this a good deal or should I try bargaining more?
I checked autos.aol.com for the MSRP of a new 2012 a4. That value is $35,075. (I have emailed my dealer to find out the MSRP, of when it was first sold)
The mileage on the car is close to 10,000 miles. The dealer mentioned that the car was a previous service loaner in his dealership.
2011 A4 CPO Quattro, quartz /black; automatic, Premium Plus, convenience Package. 20,120 miles one owner clean slate. Invoice $33,500 Have them down to $29,000. Audi Care included from previous owner and 6 yr warranty 100k plus and qualify for 1.9 apr is this a good deal or should I still keep pushing? Thanks for help.
Retail on the car including destination was ~40500
Is this a good deal? Thanks in advance
http://www.edmunds.com/appraisal/
You can not go go by what the dealer says he paid for the trade in. Those are just numbers that can be moved around to look like a good deal in any way. The buy out on that car after 3 years would be around 21k so if you pay 31k you will have a car that would wholesale at 21k after 1 year. Not a good deal. I would say the car is worth 25k tops.
2013 Audi A4 - Premium 2.0T Automatic CVT
Options:
-Convenience package
-Lighting package
-Wheel locks
-Chrome exhaust tips
MSRP: $35,735
Trade in equity on my old A5: -$500
Audi loyalty: -$1000
Negotiated price with incentives and trade-in: $31,300
Audi care: +$820
FINAL NEGOTIATED PRICE INCLUDING AUDI CARE: $32,120
42-month lease
52% residual
10k miles/yr
.00071 money factor
$695 acq fee
Residual: $18,582
$0 security deposit, $0 down, $0 drive-off (walk off the lot paying nada)
Monthly payment: $376 (includes CA 8.75%)
Should I pull the trigger?
Thanks,
Mike
$32,120 final price does NOT include the trade in
The $500 trade-in is going towards the cap-reduction/up front cost
Thanks!
The purchase price for the car should be 32,500 (not counting audi care) before trade in, audi loyalty and any other discounts you may have. You have a lot more negociating to do.
I'm getting Audi Care because I intend to purchase the car at the end of the lease. Given the lease rate, even including fees, it would actually work out to be slightly cheaper to lease the car and buy it out rather than finance it from the start. Plus, it's easier to write off the lease payment rather than figure out the depreciation on the car if I were to finance it.
As far as the cost of the car, I'm actually down to $32,300.
Then there is the $1000 loyalty cash and my $500 trade in on top of that.
So price is $31,300 (inc loyalty cash) and then $500 trade in.
Let me know... Thanks!!!
http://www.edmunds.com/appraisal/
I also think the dealer is trying to move this car over the premium plus from what my gut says... and that's fine for me.
Thanks!!!
I'm leaning towards saving the $1500, as the only one of those options I would like is the auto dimming mirrors... the rest I don't care.
I think the price is fair... need to pull trigger today!
New to the forum here. Just wanted to ask if the following link is a good deal? I'm not familiar at all with Audis, and wanted to ask if the price of the car is decent. I will of course attempt to negotiate, but I'm not an existing or previous Audi owner or anything.
http://www.tysonscorneraudiofvienna.com/certified/Audi/2012-Audi-A4-c2d755f90a0a- 00e0004db60240d8dd5a.htm
Thanks for your help!
http://www.edmunds.com/appraisal/
I'm new to the forum and new to leasing cars (I've been driving a 1998 camry for the last 4 years). I'm looking at a lease special on a 2013 A4 2.0T Quattro Tiptronic. Some info is below:
MSRP: $34,600
Convenience Package: $1100
Heated Front Seats: $450
Wheel Lock Kit: $100
First Aid Kit: $45
Total Price: $37,190
Lease terms are:
$2995 down
$1000 conquest incentive if you own a luxury car (I have a 1998 Camry...)
$3995 fees total drive off
42 month 15k miles
$350.54/mo out the door
Is this a good deal or how can I better negotiate this? Which parts of this lease can I negotiate and what should I be aiming for? I know this is a pretty broad question but I have no idea what to expect and would appreciate any feedback. Thanks everybody!
Which do you guys like?
I am in SoCal, buying cash. No trade.
Option A:
New 2013 A4 2.0 T QUATTRO TIPTRONIC
Black/Black
Premium Plus Package
Navigation Plus
Quote: $37,000 flat + tax + tags
Option B:
Used 2013 2.0T FWD MULTITRONIC
Yes, a 2013. 2000 miles on it.
NO CPO, original warranty only. Used 6 weeks. Owner changed mind, bought something else
Has Everyting Option A has, plus
+Advanced Key
+B&O Sound (which I don’t really care about)
No Audi Care. Orig Owner Didn't buy.
Quote: 37,980 (+980 over the brand new) + tax + tag
Any insights much appreciated,
Jamie in SoCal
http://www.leaseguide.com/calc.htm
Everything is negotiable in a lease. Even though you are leasing you still have to negotiate a sale price, interest rate and buyout at the end of the lease.
Use this link to find out what the sale price should be for the car
http://www.edmunds.com/audi/a4/2013/options.html?sub=sedan
Your interest/money factor rate should be around .00064 and your residual/buyout should be 54%. You need to get everything down, your payment is way too high..