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This might not have been the root cause for you, it might be all about toe and camber, but since it appears you still own the car, you might take it to a good tire shop that has a Hunter Road Force balancer (or equivalent) and see what they can do. Wouldn't cost much and it might help.
1. Which model year is this Mazda3?
2. What is the rating of your Yokohama tires (e.g. 205/50/16 H)?
3. How often were the tire rotations done? (e.g. every 5000 miles)
4. Do you have workorders from the dealer / garage for the rotations?
5. What was your expectation of tire wear? (e.g. 50,000 miles)
2. Yokos are Avids S34 205/55/17s
3. Rotations were done at 5500, 9000, then 16000, but at 16k I had to make the guys swap the tires back because the noise coming from the front of the car was unbearable.
4. I have 3 of the 4 work orders
5. Per Yokohama, the equivalent retail model tire is rated at 60,000 miles.
I believe it is a Mazda design/spec issue, not a tire mnftr issue at this point.
According to Tirerack.com the Yokohama Avid S34 are not top of the pack. Also, there appears to be a serious treadwear issue according to Tire Rack's survey results. See: http://www.tirerack.com/tires/surveyresults/surveydisplay.jsp?type=AS
Per Yokohama, the equivalent retail model tire is rated at 60,000 miles.
I could not retrieve this information from their site. I wonder how many tires make it to their durability rating.
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-2021 Sahara 4xe-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2015 X1 xDrive28i
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
Agreed. Also, it's cheaper to replace the tires than the car.
Yes, but "excessive tire wear" makes a dandy excuse to flip your car when you want something different- economic reality is merely a distraction.
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-2021 Sahara 4xe-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2015 X1 xDrive28i
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
The same day my fiancé drove to South Motors and asked to see the service manager Brian Maureles. He explained the problem. Mr. Maureles said that it is normal for the factory tires which are high performance to be worn out at 15,000 miles. My fiancé said why did the front show thread and not the back? He said it must be alignment or the way we drive. Well we are both 60 and drive slower than most so the latter is not the case and the car does not pull at all. When Brian could not reply and give a plausible good answer he started to get frustrated and asked if my fiancé was done. He said no, he believed the tires were not rotated and if they were why did you not say something about the uneven wear as you were supposed to in your full circle service? He said all that must have happened in the last 5000 miles. He said a lot can happen in 5000 miles.
When my fiancé disagreed he said I am done with you! That is not a good answer for a customer who is frustrated. We have gone back and forth for a month by email to no avail. We even emailed Mr. Prieto the manager of South Mazda and his corporate office all to no avail. Our back tires are at 50% and the front is finished because of their bad service. We have all receipts. We went to a representative of the Tokoyama tire company who Mazda Worldwide said to see. The representative was Tire Kingdom; to get a third opinion in writing on 5/10/12 and they said due to lack of tire rotation the tires in front are finished. We have all emails and bills etc. South Mazda Motors is not to be trusted because their repair shop will not do work promised resulting in a negative impact on your car. When confronted they will just stonewall you!!
Suzanne :mad:
Other than that my car has been dead reliable for ~2 years and 31k miles, no problems whatsoever (knock on wood). Love my Mazda 3!
My wife's 2010 Mazda 3i Touring Sedan with 24k miles also has this noise now after its scheduled oil and rotation maintenance. The car has Bridgestone Turanza EL400-02. Before the rotation, there was no noticeable noise. After, the oscillating sound seems to come from the front right tire.
Dealer did acknowledge this model wears rear tires faster than others so advice going forward when I get new tires is to rotate every 5k miles although it doesn't look like that will make a difference going by your rotation maintenance experience. :sick:
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-2021 Sahara 4xe-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2015 X1 xDrive28i
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
What model of Yokahama tires?
Do you know their speed rating (e.g. V-rated)?
What's wrong with the tires? Does the problem affect all four tires?
How many times were the tires rotated?
Many reviews of cars mention which tires come with the car. Check the review ratings of tires and factor that into the price of a new car. Consider getting new tires online or at least reading reviews. Compare a few shops and pick the best one you can afford. I expect my tires to be worn at between 20-25k miles.
In my market tires are normally 100-120 per tire. You can often find extra discounts if you purchase at the right time. Installation cost should be less than 100. So in the end your quote is not far off. Everyone knows when it comes to tires your mileage may vary as we all drive differently with different road conditions. Take the time read tire reviews and hope for the best. (and rotate and re balance your tires as needed)
Anyways anyone looking for a non performance long lasting tire should look at Michelin Defenders. Good warranty, nice promotions and a quiet ride.
My very first purchase was a 2008 Mazda 3 with 25K and in great shape. Tires rotated at 40k and coming up on 50k now. I have recently found a screw in both front tires about a month apart. It was fixed but drive with my daughter frequently so I am going to replace the front tires regardless, as there is also a bulge in one of them as well.
My question is what brand and model would you recommend that I replace these two front tires with. I have the OEM TOYO all seasons now.
Performance is great, but realistically I live in Chicago so an all season tire is the direction of a winter tire is what i am leaning towards, and possibly a separate winter set in the somewhat distant future.
To me it is well worth the time to sort through reviews one evening as it normally make driving more enjoyable. Normally you can get 50/100 discount on 4 tires from the store and if you are lucky combine it with a tire maker rebate for getting four tires. That tends to be the best deal you can normally hope for which ends up at the cost of a little more than 2 tires and ending up with 4. I will often buy in advance as I dislike paying full price for tires knowing they have such good sales a few times a year.
I live in central Kentucky, so heavy snowfalls are somewhat infrequent. In the past I ran Pirelli PZero Nero All Seasons as my winter tire on my 2007 Mazdaspeed 3, but this year I decided to try the Cooper Zeon RS3-A. No complaints so far. I'm also running the Coopers on my son's X3 and they are performing well in that application.
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-2021 Sahara 4xe-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2015 X1 xDrive28i
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
The Sandman :sick: :shades:
2023 Hyundai Kona Limited AWD (wife) / 2015 Golf TSI (me) / 2019 Chevrolet Cruze Premier RS (daughter #1) / 2020 Hyundai Accent SE (daughter #2) / 2023 Subaru Impreza Base (son)
I hope your realize that treadwear, traction and rolling resistance form a 3 way technology triangle and improvements in one area come from sacrificing one or more of the other areas. So you have to find a compromuise that works for you.
Go to Tire Rack's web site and read through the tests and reviews. That should help you figure out what will work,
The Sandman :sick: :shades:
2023 Hyundai Kona Limited AWD (wife) / 2015 Golf TSI (me) / 2019 Chevrolet Cruze Premier RS (daughter #1) / 2020 Hyundai Accent SE (daughter #2) / 2023 Subaru Impreza Base (son)
The car drove so poorly I couldn't believe the good reviews it gets. On a whim I replaced the horrible oem tires and steel wheels with new tires and lighter alloy wheels and it helped the ride quite a bit.
However, the car is LOUD on certain roads, so I'm looking into some kind of foam undercoating and for the wheel wells.