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2008 Subaru Impreza WRX
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Why should we expect this one to be any different? :sick:
-mike
It's funny, coupes look best, but sedans sell the most volume.
Even for the beautiful GC8, the sedan outsold the coupe by far.
If it's not available, people can't buy em, so is it a matter of they don't want em or they can't get em?
Civic Si is a coupe, seems to sell pretty good.
-mike
The 2002 was controversial.
The 2004 was controversial.
The 2006 was controversial.
Should we be surprised with the 2008?
This is a cult car. People that own them become rabid fans. They will speak up when their beloved model is changed, every time.
the editors say the car looks much better in person, especially the WRX version.
so let subaru, be subaru, and the rest of you wankers can go buy a camry if you want a normal looking car...
Bob
Thing is, they were far smaller in number.
There are many, many more WRX owners now. Probably 10 times as many. They bought them, so obviously they tend to like whatever style they chose.
Plus, think about it, it's 3 different looks vs. 1, and everyone will have a favorite.
x% will like the 02-03, y% will like the 04-05, and x% will like the 06-07.
By my math if 25% of them like the 08 then it's even with the other 3 looks.
What is Subaru doing? The last 3 generations were very good looking cars in my opinion. They were on a roll, making each new gen look better and better. With this generation it looks like they saw the new Toyota Camry and just put a hood scoop on it. Is Subaru trying to go out of business? Seriously, once the hype dies down a little about the Evo X when it is released, I will go buy one. No matter how technically advance this new Subaru WRX and WRX STi will be, the Evo X will be as technical but 1000000 times better looking. Subaru you lost a customer...
-mike
The regular Impreza looked nice as well. Again, better from the outside.
I also saw the facelift for the Tribeca, thank God. Maybe the vehicle will sell better now.
Sedan looks much better, overall great improvement, looks way more Saab and that's a good thing.
Saw the Quartz Silver on the 3.0R that's the color I'm getting on my SpecB. Tribecca looked good as well.
-mike
Do they allow us to sit inside the new Impreza ? Or is it strictly viewing from a distance ?
All I could see was the interior from a distance. Could not touch and feel, so I could not get a true sense of how it was. From where I was standing it looked better then the current interior, but, did not stand out. Still, I do not like the rear of the hatch, regardless of how it drives! The sedan really looks nice.
I will agree with the Legacy looking like a Saab. Very similar.
I never really liked a hatch and the previous impreza was just too small in the trunk space and the size of the car made for a harsh highway ride. Since the new impreza is based on the Legacy platform, I was hoping for a smoother highway ride and larger trunk.
Anyone seen the dimensions printed anywhere?
Thanks,
cusafr
With the new Impreza, the buzz has all been in the reverse direction. People are talking about how an "ugly Daewoo look" is an advantage on the track and anonymity is an advantage on the road etc. Almost desperately trying to make the best of a really bad situation ! In the original bugeye WRX, even with its controversial look, everyone wanted to have one in their driveway but the new one simply does not evoke such emotions, mainly because the core of the car, including the engine and the transmission, is still 7 model years old. They just bungled the "complete redesign", bigtime and is a big letdown after all this anticipation. Why, Subaru, why ??
It may not appeal to the boy-racer market as it once did, but Subaru did the right thing with car. It will sell a lot more to a much wider audience. Mark my words on that.
As for the boy-racers... That's who the STI is aimed at—and we haven't seen that yet.
Bob
Actually I was referring to the Impreza, not the Legacy.
-mike
I think we all had initial expectations of what the car would look like based on personal taste, which is the case with any redesign - and naturally when the car comes out looking different than anyone expected, everyone automatically views that as a negative.
After seeing the dozens of pictures that are out there now, I can honestly say the only thing I might change about the car would be the grill, something easily remedied by the aftermarket. I like the car's lines, and even like the back of the hatch that everyone seems to think looks like a Daewoo.
Doug
-mike
I think when people don't like a Subaru design, for whatever reason they think of the cheapest car that comes to mind.
For 2002, people were *screaming* Neon, the bug eyed WRX we now love and has become a cult car was called a NEON!
Now everyone looks back and says that was beautiful? :confuse:
Shoot, Daewoo is a step up, if anything.
The Leganza was styled by Guigiaro, FWIW. One of the more handsome budget sedans ever, at least the styling was good.
Personally, I saw a Lexus RX this weekend, and the more I looked at it, the more I thought that's what the WRX drew inspiration from, at least from the rear view:
I looked but couldn't find a Daewoo that looked anything like that. Just for reference:
If anyone can find a pic that links a Daewoo to the new WRX, please, by all means share it. I just don't see the connection at all.
Daewoo designs have convex panels, WRX concave. Daewoo uses red tails, WRX uses Altezzas. I'm not sure the Lanos ever even came as a 5 door. There's not crease on the shoulder. No chrome stripe.
Like I said, I don't see any link at all.
That was because it was superior to anything it ran against in in 2002. People would live with the look to get the performance. Who else made a AWD turbo in 2002 that you could buy for $25K?? I would say the closest competition was the RSX Type-S at $25K, but, no turbo and no AWD.
Today, there are many car's that can compete with selling for less, but may not be as fast( GTI, Civic Si, SE-R Spec V) and others that are just as fast or faster (Mazdaspeed3, Mazdaspeed6).
There still needs to be a gap in power from the WRX to the STi to justify the leap in price. Personally, I think that still could have been done by making the WRX a 250hp or so.
There still needs to be a gap in power from the WRX to the STi to justify the leap in price. Personally, I think that still could have been done by making the WRX a 250hp or so.
Still no AWD excep the Mazdaspeed6, but that competes with the Legacy.
-mike
A few people here reported some serious bargains on the last few leftovers.
Still, I drove one and it didn't raise my pulse rate. I'd take a new Miata or RX8 over one any day. :shades:
-mike
I was more impressed by the Legacy GT I drove earlier, but that's not really fair since I had higher expectations for the Mazda. It is, after all, a special model made by the tuner arm MazdaSpeed.
-mike
I thought those bargains were on leftover '06 MSP6's. '07 MSP6's are going for about invoice or so, at least around here.
My impression of the MPS6 at the Zoom Zoom Live was that it drove and felt very heavy, whereas the Legacy GT feels much more nimble and tight.
-Brian
I drove it at Zoom Zoom Live. It was a tight course, so turbo lag and the nose-heavy feel really killed it.
The Miata was tossable and made me want one.
The RX8 was a hoot, though I can barely see out of those, and if I go impractical I want a folding top.
Bob
-mike
http://www.answers.com/topic/haldex
If you do a Google check "MazdaSpeed6 AWD Haldex" you will find a lot on it.
Bob
The Zoom-Zoom Live event does not due the car justice. You have to take it out and really drive it. You will change your opinion on the car. The suspension is much tighter then the GT or Spec B. More top end power as well.
Mazda didn't market the car properly, but that's why we see massive incentives on it now, making it the a best-kept secret for bargain hunting enthusiasts.
Mazda didn't market the car properly
I could not agree more. They built a nice car, and did not know what to do with it. I think Mazda has learned from that. The Mazdaspeed3 has really taken off. But, then again, different segment, different demographic.
They had one on display at NAIAS, but I thought they were out of production? :confuse:
The vehicle models in Pixar/Disney's animation, Cars lend themselves to such curvilinear lines but not the spirit of our beloved WRX and its established legacy which demands more muscular detailing.