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My friend has a C Class M/B and in looking a serveral CTSs tonite he thought that the CTS was the same size as the C Class. I don't have any data but my impression was that it was much more substantial and more M/B E Class or BMW 5 series than anything.
March 2004 - 6,219
February 2004 - 6,864
YTD 2004 - 15,097
YTD 2003 - 17,203
Cadillac CTS
March 2004 - 6,057
February 2004 - 4,588
YTD 2004 - 14,173
YTD 2003 - 10,956
The gap between #1 & #2 has narrowed considerably.
Just curious: Do the CTS stats include the "V", and are the BMW stats for the entire 3-Series line (320, 325, 330, M3) in all their configurations (Sedan, Touring, Cabriolet)?
This is without Cadillac having a less expensive 325 type version. I believe this is to come for '05 - 2.8l with synthetic leather.
http://www.breathlessperformance.com/products/245.asp
I didn't think it would bother me but it does.
It just happened again in traffic and it was not expected. Sort of leaves you in a position of no real power. Luckily I downshifted quickly and saved the situation. You can downshift and then resume because the V just has that much horsepower but it's still not good.
http://www.gmcanada.com/english/vehicles/cadillac/showcase/owners- - hip/cadi_show_own_overview.html#1
Unfortunately, if it's not in place in the US today, I doubt they will add it.
It improves the looks of the car immensely.
FWIW, I also like the way the plastic part looks (its reflective properties are a nice contrast to my car's black finish) but it's more important for me to have the leak fixed properly.
Took the car in to my dealer, took a mechanic for a ride over some bad local streets. He agreed there was a strange noise and thought it sounded like a rear shock.
Surprise! it was a front shock and there was even a factory report on the problem so they replaced both front shocks under warranty.
P.S. I also wish there was a factory service contract for oil, tire rotation, and other regular services here is the states as there is in Canada.
P.P.S Rydell in Northridge had two black CTSv's last week. One was gone by today. That body colored rear panel with the great big bright backup lights looks real good. Much better than the panel on the show car with bars over the backup light area.
It will not work from my drive way on a hill, one block from a Sprint tower. So I called them and they changed software etc. It still did not work properly, according to them. They sent the reports to the dealer.
Today I took it to the dealer and he had all the reports. Found out that the CTS 2004 were ALL ANALOG and it can NEVER be changed to dual mode. Dealer could find no problem.
So dont buy a CTS 2004 it is obsolete as the analog features will disappear from the towers in a few years. Wait till 2005 when it MAY be available, but I dont trust them.
I was promised a dual mode system when I bought it and even the dealer thought they all were dual mode.
The only solution is to dump On Star and buy a Bluetooth system. Hope that it can be integrated in the CTS.
The car is great but the analog system sucks
Ray
Also, has anyone else noticed a harsh 'thunk' when the air conditioning compressor kicks in?
As for the cell phone...I doubt bluetooth will ever be offered as this would be a superior solution to Onstar. GM wants to force-feed Onstar to all its customers even though it's a crappy overpriced service. I was surprised to find that the cigarette lighter port doesn't stay powered when the car is turned off...making it difficult to charge a cell phone, laptop, or PDA.
Anybody elese having auto tranny leaks?
The repair order said:
"REPLACED BOTH FRONT STRUTS SEE PI#00668"
which I think is the factory number for the problem.
I hope this helps.
I would not buy a CTS. Its poor quality
Having said that, my CTS is still the best car I've owned. The product quality is miles ahead of the old days. I'd buy one first, then you can make all the comments you like.
See messge #5488, and even Lexus has had quality problems.
Or Cadillac is just too strong.
Production data for the first 4 months of the year:
Cadillac: 2004 is 92,584 vs. 75,898 in 2003.
Lincoln: 2004 is 55,143 vs. 59,712 in 2003.
CTS 2004 is 24,702 vs. 21,940 in 2003.
LS 2004 is 8,487 vs. 15,694 in 2003.
Most of Cadillac's increase seems to be in the production of the SRX at over 15,000 units.
SRX is not selling great.
2800 in March, but is being produced at a rate over 4,000 per month. Although in the last month production is down to 800-900 units per week.
When the STS comes out I expect Cadillac to produce twice as many vehicles as Lincoln. They might even do that this year.
I wonder if they can actually sell that many, or if they're going to pile up on the lots?
The Slade and CTS both set sales records in March. They've both been around awhile, but just seem to get more and more popular.
CTS was originally supposed to sell 25-30K per year and sold 50K last year.
It is selling even better this year.
A few weeks ago they produced 1700+ CTSs in 1 week. That was an all time high for production.
Still can't figure out why there is no automanual in the CTS.
ALL of it's competitors have it.
SRX is hard to get in and out of. Wide sills are to blame. Plus the price are the reason for the poor showing.
My dealer now has more SRXs on his lot than CTSs.
STS production starting in a few weeks.
STS production will undoubtley cut into CTS/SRX production even though there are additional shifts now.
You guys may remember my posts about how low CTS production was this past Fall. This was because SRX production slowed down CTS production.
The SRX, CTS and STS are not only produced in the same plant but on the same line.
I got kicked off an LS board for (among other things) pointing out that GM was actually doing what Ford was talking about. I compared the LS to the CTS all the time, and the primary response was: "it's ugly."
In my world, that's a subjective thing. The objective thing is sales (more often lease) numbers. I've referred to them from time to time as well. The most typical response is that in a year or two the pent-up demand will subside, and the CTS will "enjoy" the same sales decline the LS is seeing. Hmmm. . . Not seeing it yet.
Read it and think. If FoMoCo had the balls and $ to do what Cadillac has done, it'd be an interesting discussion. As it is (as Allen pointed out), FoMoCo doesn't have a pot to (do much with) and here we are.
When my LS packs up, which I hope is several years away, the CTS is one of my replacement options. The LS isn't, since they got rid of the manual.
Anyway, the market is speaking. I'm banished, but apparently not wrong.
Jeremy
STS production starting in a few weeks."
That is an excellent point.
"As long as Cadillac doesn't let the CTS's price balloon the way the Lincoln LS did, I don't think there will be a serious decline in sales."
"Has the buildup of units on the dealers lot triggered any special incentives?"
Don't expect any rebates, but I bet you could get a deal on a loaded V8.
If anything they may get a little cheaper, as I understand the 2.8 will become available w/synthetic leather. No pricing yet, but maybe $28XXX for base 2.8 w/manual?
I wonder if they are going to call it a Cimmaron!
This is in place(I think) of the Instant Value certificate program which was not advertised.
This is the program that I used when I bought my SRX.
I got 2 certificates valued at $500 each for a total of $1,000.
i feel that Cadillac has stubbed their toe with the pricing of the SRX.
The CTS has had basically no incentives, other than low interest financing, since it was introduced 28 months ago!!!!
Cimarron did have a 2.8L V6. It's like deja' vu all over again.
They can call it anything they want... even the basest CTS is a fine vehicle.
I've got some experience with "ultraleather" in over-the-road truck applications where the seats routinely see hundreds of thousands of miles of use. That stuff is really durable, looks and feels great, very soft. All it needs is a little spray on leather smell.
M