Mechanics: Horror Stories

easyrider300measyrider300m Member Posts: 1,116
Many years and cars ago, my car died at 2am just outside of Boston. I managed to push it into the parking lot of the nearest gas station. The next morning, I called the station and requested that they diagnose the problem. A few hours later they called to tell me the carberator was bad and should be replaced. He quoted about $250 which at that time was relatively high. Not knowing the mechanic, I intuitively didn't trust him and told him I would come by to take my car out of his lot. I arrived at 5pm and was told that there would be a $15 storage fee. I slipped the bills into his greedy little fingers and proceeded to try to start my car. After pumping the gas several times, I managed to get the car started and drove it back home.

Still having problems with starting the car, I called a backyard mechanic friend of mine and after about 10 minutes of testing, he told me that the gas filter was clogged. I picked up a new one for about $4 at the local parts store and my buddy installed it in about 2 minutes. Car ran perfectly after this minor repair.

That gas station mechanic thought he had a sucker who had no choice but to trust his diagnosis. Well, I called his bluff and saved some big bucks. Do you have a story of being taken advantage of by a shady mechanic? Did you outwit a dishonest mechanic? Do you trust most mechanics? Tell us your Mechanic Horror Stories.
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  • eharri3eharri3 Member Posts: 640
    up until now, since we now have two vehicles that almost never need unscheduled work and therefore never leave us at the mercy of a mechanic.(My 95 Ranger, their 97 Corrola.) WE had one heck of an experience with our 1990 Mazda MPV though. It needed work, LOTS of work, because it was going to be mine at first after 6 years of family service and we couldnt even get it running at the time. WE pushed it to a neighborhood mechanic we heard great things about from a family friend. No matter how highly recommended a mechanic is, we never have great experiences.

    HE calls us back in a week, tells us it needs a starter. We tell him go ahead and do the work. In another two days he says it still won't start, needs an alternator, and it'll be another three days for the part and another 2 to install. Fine. Not bad so far, it's only been a couple weeks. HE calls us to tell us the alternator's in, but we need a fly-wheel cause it still wont start. This it's gonna take him another week to do. We wait patiently. I stop by the shop in a week to see how it's progressing. HE tells me 'I'll call on Tuesday.' Fine. Tuesday comes and goes and we don't hear from him. I call him the next day and he says 'I should know something by next Thursday.' Another week goes by ad still nothing. It's been almost a month now that he's had our car in the shop. The whole time he hasnt been the least bit apologetic or regretful or all the delays an for not bothering to call us when he says he will. Finally he calls and says it's running and to come get it, with a total bill of well over a thousand dollars by that time after a whole month of 'well, I fixed this but now I realize this other thing is shot.'

    Two weeks after: IT died again for good.
  • seeligseelig Member Posts: 590
    when i was in the cabinet business i had an '87 chevy 1 ton flatbed w/454. the truck ran fine up to 70K mi. and then developed a racing idle (high idle). the auto repair shop in my complex gave me a guarentee that they could diagnose the problem and get it running properly, or it would cost me nothing. (they wanted my business) they checked the thing out and finally gave me a parts list along with the estimate of $1,300.00. this list consisted of plugs, wires, cap, rotor, fuel filter, fuel line, vacum lines, and 1 onboard computer.......EXCUSE me!...but why the computer? they said the computer was what controlled the idle, and that since all the sensors were working properly, that the computer was malfunctioning. i asked my dad about this (he was a Toyota parts manager at the time) and he snickered and said, he had a pile of used computers that were the result of mechanic's making a wrong diagnosis. i told him of my deal, and he thought i had a good chance of gettin a tune-up for free. i gave the go ahead to the guys at the shop, and after they got all the parts and installed them, they called me over to hear the truck when it fired up. you should of seen the look on their faces when it started right up and continued to stay at high idle.....DOHH! it wasn't the computer after all, and there are no returns on a computer. OUCH! now they were really dumbfounded so they called a rep that helps these guys out when they can't figure it out. the guy shows up, they start the truck, and right away he says it's the gasket where the carb mounts to the intake manifold. he even stuck a rag across the rear of the base of the carb where he knew it was leaking, and sure enough the idle came down a bit. he also explained that there was a TSB on the 454's being notorious for sucking this gasket through bit by bit. i felt bad for the guys in the shop, but i wasn't going to eat a computer, especially since my dad and i warned them that we thought they were making a mistake, but i was fair enough to compensate them for the rest of what they had done. the truck needed all the other stuff anyways.
    my point to what i have said is this, sometimes mechanics make bad guesses, but aren't always trying to burn people. there are a lot of mechanics that don't have near enough experience to be called an "auto mechanic", but by making these stupid decisions, are also making it bad for the "real mechanics". then again, there are plenty of both who will sell their own mom her own wheels.....LOL
    and no, i'm not a mechanic by trade.
  • easyrider300measyrider300m Member Posts: 1,116
    I once owned a 77 Gran Prix--beautiful car--T-roofs and all the toys. Took it in for an alignment as tires were wearing slightly on the outside edges. The car had only 20,000 miles on the odometer. The mechanic calls me and tells me he can't align the car as it needs tie rods. Knowing a little about cars, I smelled something rotten here and told the guy I would come down and let him show me the problem. I get down there and he has the car on the lift. He wiggles the tie rod coupling and shows me that its loose and he says the alignment wont hold unless he replaces the worn tie rods. I noticed a coupling on the tie rods with a screw with a square head on it. There were several threads on the rod next to the coupling. Obviously this is an adjustment point when doing an alignment. I said to the guy: "Maybe if you tighten that nut, it would cure the looseness problem." He tells me,"Oh, we already tried that and it won't tighten. I responded with: "well, could I borrow your wrench and check it myself?" He hands me the wrench and I gave that nut a few turns and tightened up the coupling. Then I shook the joint and said to the guy: "well, its tight now--could you please lower my car so I can get out of here--I'll get my alignment elsewhere, thank you!"

    Sorry to say, this occurred at a national Tire chain that is still in existence. So be leary of some mechanics that are out to make a dishonest dollar at your expense.

    Easyrider300M
  • 0patience0patience Member Posts: 1,712
    Very good point. As a mechanic, I appreciate your words, they ring too true.

    As was said, You need to realize the difference between incompetence and dishonesty.
    The thing that bothers me is when a person goes to a shop, they screw up and instead of saying they didn't know what they were doing, the say they were trying to rip them off. And realize, often the mechanic is at the mercy of the owner or service advisor.

    Please, learn the difference between incompetency and dishonesty. Not all mechanics are crooks or dishonest.
  • adc100adc100 Member Posts: 1,521
    I made plenty of mistakes during my working career, doctors make mistakes, engineers make mistakes, airline pilots make mistakes.

    Here's my two: Had exhaust replaced on '69 Camaro and shft linkage rubbed on the exhaust in reverse, whch they had to have noticed. I guess since I was in early twenties and looked like 18 they figured i wouldn't mind this slight problem. They actually felt this was satisfactory. (They fixed it) They didn't realize I had such a foul mouth.

    Had a '78 Subaru inspected and they broke the 4 way flasher knob. They replaced it with a %$@#& Wood Screw!!!!!
  • easyrider300measyrider300m Member Posts: 1,116
    your experience with dishonest OR incompetent mechanics. It is a known suspicion that "some" mechanics will take advantage of woman and elderly who they feel don't know much about the workings of their cars. I believe most mechanics are honest and competent, but there are some shady operators out there. I speak from experience and have many more stories to tell. In due time, you will hear some of my other mechanic horror stories. I am not a mechanic and only attempt the basic repairs on my vehicles; but I know enough about my car and come across to the mechanic as being knowledgeable about the mechanical workings of my car so they think twice about pulling one over one me. But I have seen many attempts to separate me from my hard earned dollars but they quickly learn that they are messin' with the wrong car owner.

    Please understand that I am not badmouthing the whole automobile technician industry but just exposing the land mines out there in the auto repair field. When you find a competent and honest mechanic, you will build a trust between the two of you. Even if he is slightly higher priced than the guy down the street, he is worth every penny if he knows his trade and treats you fairly. In the long run, he will save you from possible frustration and lost time in dealing with the less competent mechanic who may charge less per hour or less on the straighforward job, only to cost you extra money when the tough repairs occur which he may try to solve by replacing unneccesary parts in his trial and error method of repair.

    I'll step down from my podium now and let some others tell their "Mechanic Horror Stories."
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    I disassembled a Porsche 911 engine once and found vice grip marks on all the bearing and rod bolts. And this person was charged for an engine rebuild by a "German Car Specialist"!
  • lmacmillmacmil Member Posts: 1,758
    This is about incompetence. In about 1993, when driving my manual trans 1984 Topaz with about 70K miles, I lost the connection between the tranny and the drive shaft. Had it towed to the shop where I'd been having work done for several years without problems. They said it was the transmission and by the way, might as well do the clutch while we're at it. Seemed reasonable so I said go ahead. Total bill was about $1000. Less than a month later, the same thing happened. They claimed they didn't get the snap ring back on the axle shaft. Didn't charge for the tow or the fix. Two weeks later, same thing. They are baffled and so am I. They call a transmission shop and are told bad motor mounts can cause this problem. They do the motor mounts (about $250) and now the problem is fixed. I ask about the transmission and, of course, they stand by their original diagnosis that the transmission was bad. They can't explain the incredible coincidence of another failure causing the same problem. Needless to say, I never went back.
  • seeligseelig Member Posts: 590
    i call em as i see em. there are quite a few trades in this country, and they all have there share of thieves. i can sure relate to easy's feeling of a crooked mechanic tryin to bend him over. i have been through a similar situation once like easy, but i decided to humor the bozo, and let him explain every detail, and go through an entire list of parts and prices needed for the repair. i even went so far as to suggest replacing other related parts. i'm tellin ya, this guy was ready to close early, and then wham!!.....i said i'd bring the car back in a week to let him do all the work. he tried every trickin the book to convince me that i should leave the car and let him get started.....LOL
    he even called twice the following week to see when i was coming in. i finally told him that Pep Boys was going to do the work and after his choice words, he hung up. turns out, that i replaced a vacumn line that controlled a vacumn switch in the A/C and everything was fine.
  • easyrider300measyrider300m Member Posts: 1,116
    some of these guys may look for revenge if they have your address---like a custom paint stripe down the side of your car---

    Once I brought my car in to have a flat fixed and have the oil and filter changed. I could have fixed the flat myself with one of those do it yourself expresso plug kits but figured why not have it done right seeing I needed an oil change anyway. So I left the car with the grease monkey and came back to pick it up at the end of the day. Charged me $12 for the flat repair and $23 for the oil change. The guy that worked on my car wrote up the bill. I paid the bill and headed home. Once home, I checked the dip stick to make sure he filled it up to the proper level. The stick had oil on it as black as coal---the oil obviously wasnt changed. I checked the tire repair and found that he had just inserted a plug like I could have done myself in 2 minutes instead of the proper inner patch. Well, I headed back and asked him why he didnt change the oil. He stated that he must have forgot. I said to him: "Yeah, but you didnt forget to charge me!" I also mentioned the improper flat repair and demanded a full refund which I received. Needless to say, I will not be heading back to that station for any future repair or maintenance work. Some unsuspecting customer would have driven the car for another 3,000 to 7,000 miles with dirty oil and a clogged filter. Dont think that would be too good for your engine.--Motto: Buyer Beware
  • 0patience0patience Member Posts: 1,712
    Alot of these folks know where to find me.
    I got nothing to hide. I sleep very well at nights knowing that I have done everything I could to help folks out.
    Besides, even if they did want to give my truck some stripes, you probably couldn't tell the difference between it and the tree limb marks down the side and they would have to get passed the dog. Although, he probably could use a midnight snack.

    Here are some of the things that have come to me, after a "quality" shop did some repairs.

    A friend brought his car to me after he had a timing chain replaced on his Pontiac 6000, after checking it out, we had to pull the pan because of severe rod knock. After pulling the pan, I found that all of the gasket material was scraped into the pan and found its way to the oil pump, where it promptly clogged the oil pump.
    Their mistake was a $1800 mistake.

    Had to pull the pan on a Cummins NTC350 in a Kenworth for routine rod and main bearings. When I got the pan down, I found 3 rags and a dandy 1/2" Snap-On ratchet. This was a case of someone not double checking things, but I always like it when other mechanics contribute to my tool supply. HA HA.
  • easyrider300measyrider300m Member Posts: 1,116
    Took my car in for an oil change---mechanic tells me my CV boots are split and need to be replaced---I take it to my own mechanic and pay like $160 for the repair---

    after seeing the type of split on the boots and seeing that it could have been sliced with a knife, I learned to check the boots anytime a mechanic would be repairing or servicing anything on my car---

    a few months go by--time for another oil change---bring it to another chain store for a oil change special at $9.95. The day before I bring it in, I look under the car and note that the boots are in good shape--no cuts etc. I wait in the waiting while drinking their coffee and reading their magazines. Mechanic calls me over and tells me one of my boots is split and should be replaced right away--tells me I shouldnt drive it like that or more damage could occur. Quotes me like $125 to replace the boot. I just knew not to even bother accusing him of cutting my boot as I know he would deny it.

    Needless to say, I told him no thanks--I'll have my own mechanic take care of it. Also needless to say, they lost my business forever. The cheapest oil change could turn out to be the most expensive. Live and learn and Buyer Beware!
  • seeligseelig Member Posts: 590
    Opatience, just so i could have him as my mechanic, but you can't meet everyone you talk to. i did meet a guy i talk to on the pickup forums though, it was a great week we spent together.
    -
    Easy- you sure have a lot of hostility towards mechanics, sounds like you may have actually been taken in by a few eh?
  • easyrider300measyrider300m Member Posts: 1,116
    most will strive to protect their reputation in treating the customer right---but you have to be on guard for the downright crooked ones, the borderline dishonest ones as well as the incompetent ones. Yes I have been taken by a few but also caught many in the act. Incompetence is one thing, but when its obvious they are trying to pull one over on you thats another. There have been two national chains that have been reprimanded by investigators for shady practices---they are among the ones who have been caught in the act--

    I may be more leary than most car owners but my experience with some outright dishonest mechanics is the reason. Those few mechanics that I exposed as outright dishonest probably have taken advantage of many less suspecting customers and got away with it. You know what they say: "Screw me once, shame on you---screw me twice, shame on me?" I dont give them a second chance and try to avoid the first. There are many honest hardworking mechanics out there as well--those are the ones that get my business---
  • carguyaamcarguyaam Member Posts: 6
    why don't mechanics ever call back in a reasonable period of time. Case in point: took my wife's '98 Dodge Stratus in for new tires, oil change, and general check over of boots, suspension, exhaust, etc. (on a Tuesday), needed the car back by Thursday morning, assuming no major problems. Mechanic says no problem, he'll call on Wednesday. So Thu. comes and goes, nothing. Friday a.m. leave a message, nothing. Monday a.m. I call and get "oh, needed a new part, it'll be in tomorrow, I call when it's finished. So, Tueday comes and goes, no call. Wed. a.m. I call, "it should be ready this afternoon." I say "were you ever going to call ME?" "Sorry, I've been really busy..." Pick it up on Wednesday. It's been 8 days and I never heard from the guy once. I have had other situations like this, it seems to be widespread. Can't mechanics just do the simple courtesy of a phone call. Even if the works not complete, just call me when you say you will. That holds true for any line of work...
  • armtdmarmtdm Member Posts: 2,057
    I have never had that happen and obviously has dificulty locating parts as well
  • rls9rls9 Member Posts: 9
    I just got my car back from the dealer when I found a chip in the driver's side door. It's not huge but it's the first thing I saw when I walked up to my car. So I immediately went back inside to bring this to their attention. So one of the guys behind the service counter came out and said that it's the kind of thing that could have happened anywhere and that it just so happened that it took place at their dealership. The only thing he offered me was to split the cost of the repair. Should I settle for this?
    Has anyone had this happen before? Any thoughts as to how to approach this? Should I take it to my insurance and have the dealership pay my deductible?
    How much is this going to cost? It's only about a quarter inch long, but the primer is what sticks out.

    Thanks for your help!
  • seeligseelig Member Posts: 590
    "split the cost eh?"......if they did it and they admitted it, then they pay for it....bottom line!
  • fasterthanufasterthanu Member Posts: 210
    Thank God my mechanic is very good and honest. He has been long-time friends with my dad and not only is he honest, he gives me more than reasonable pricing as well as good advice.

    The people I find really disgusting are the tow truck driver/mechanics sent out by AAA. They try to scam you into unnecessary battery replacements and repairs, and their work is shabby to say the least.
  • geegee1958geegee1958 Member Posts: 29
    All the AAA people, tow truck operators and mechanics that I have dealt with in my area, S.E.
    Florida have all been outstanding. In fact, one woman gave a tip to a driver who came to put the
    doughnut on her car when she had a flat, & he came back the next day to return the tip, because he found out he wasn't supposed to take tips. Talk about honest! She was flabbergasted. I had a mechanic at a Honda Dealer, where I had gone for some work, call it to my attention that he had put a scratch on the hood with his belt buckle, and they fixed it for free. So I guess I have been luckey, thank goodness.
  • easyrider300measyrider300m Member Posts: 1,116
    just recently, I had a sidewall blowout on my Goodyear tire at about 20K---I told the tire dealer I didnt hit any curbs, it just blew out at about 30MPH--- there were no scrape marks on the tire or rim, just a big split on the sidewall---he looks the tire over and tells me that low tire pressure can possibly cause this problem---I told him I check my pressure on all tires weekly and he is welcome to check the other tires

    He says that maybe I had a nail hole or other leak that could cause it and starts checking the tread for nails or holes--he comes back and tells me that he found a hole in the tread probably caused by a nail and therefore it would not be covered under a defect warranty. I tell him I would like to see the hole---he puts it on some kind of spreader machine and spreads the sidewalls apart and pokes around inside with his finger and say--yeah its right there---so I asked if I could try to find it myself---verdict, no hole, nail or other source of causing a leak which he claims could weaken the sidewall---

    Outcome: he installed and balanced a new tire and charged me a $50 prorated charge for a $125 tire. This was at a well know multi-ocation tire dealer --- Buyer Beware
  • 0patience0patience Member Posts: 1,712
    Thank you for the compliment.
    I have way too many people coming to me as it is. I have to take the phone off the hook or beg the kids to use the main phone line for the internet.

    Believe it or not, there are alot of mechanics like myself. Guys like myself who take their reputations very seriously. There is a group of us and sometimes pride does get in the way, but not in a bad way.
  • ed_swansfegered_swansfeger Member Posts: 45
    Took my car into the dealership for an inspection and oil change. Service writer told me they couldn't inspect the car since the front discs were more than 50% worn. He advised me to have new front pads installed with only 30K on the odometer. Paid for the oil change and then declined the new pads.

    Went to another dealership and asked them to inspect the car. Passed 100%. Talked to the mechanic and ask him how the front brake pads were and he said they had 70% left. Guess where I take my car now?

    Stopped taking my car to the dealership that sold it to me new. They are first class rip-off artists after the brake pad incident. Found out later that they are notorious for this kind of work.

    Now I take my car to a dealership that I can trust and to a mechanic that is honest.
  • seeligseelig Member Posts: 590
    speaking of ripoff brake jobs, my cousin bought his first car in 1972, a dodge dart, and by the time it had 22K on the clock, it needed new drums, shoes, wheel cylinders, and of course master cyl. he told me this over the phone after he returned home after having new tires put on. i go over to check the car out, and when it was obvious that the brakes were no longer self adjusting, we pulled one wheel off to have a looksee. check this out, these clowns actually bent the adjuster outwards so that it could no longer turn the star disc on the adjusting screw.
    only problem he really did have was that if the drums did need turning, it had already been done twice, so he was out of luck there. the shoe and everything else was fine. we bent the adjusting levers back to their original position, and the brakes worked like before. Sears is one place i wouldn't send my worst enemy if i had one.
  • n4tyn4ty Member Posts: 5
    A regional tire and brake outfit has taken me a couple times: they sliced my CV boots on my Camry and charged me $400 to replace all 4 of them. I asked for the old ones, and it certainly looked like a knife cut to me, not a dry-rot kind of rip.

    Another time they claimed the rotors were out of spec and couldn't be turned. I called the Toyo shop (why didn't I go there instead?) and got the micrometer specs on allowable wear, and called the guy back: "so, how much rotor do I have left? And give it to me in microns, I know what it is supposed to be." End of racket. For spite they didn't put some hardware back on the hydraulic part of the front brakes, and they ate themselves alive a thousand miles later. Then I got a good shop to do the whole thing over :-(

    The first thing you do when you move to town is FIND A GOOD MECHANIC. I think that comes before finding a doctor or dentist :-)
  • easyrider300measyrider300m Member Posts: 1,116
    took my last car, a 93 Lincoln Mark VIII into a tire-brake outfit that does promo ads on a continual basis in the local newspaper---my complaint was that my brakes were making some grinding-type noise and I wasnt sure if that was normal for these particular pads or if they wore prematurely---mind you, I had the pads installed at another shop just 13,000 miles previously. I told the guy to check the pads to see if there was a problem with them and if there was, I would have them replaced with their higher quality pads. 20 minutes go by and I would have expected them to show me the problem if there was one before they did any work on it. Getting impatient, I snuck out into the customer restricted work area and found the mechanic had my brakes apart and was in the process of installing new pads---I asked to see the old pads and to see if there was a problem with them--upon inspection, I find absolutely no abnormal wear on the pads. He pointed out some small lines on the rotors and said I should replace the pads and the rotors (I had replaced the rotors at the time of the previous brake job) to solve the noise problem. I basically had brought it in just to see if there was a real problem such as metal to metal scraping that was causing the noise or calipers that were bound up. I told the mechanic that since there was no obvious mechanical problem and the rotors were not out of specs and pads were fine, that I do not feel I need another complete brake job. Told him to put it back together.

    He should have given me an estimate and got my approval before proceding. Needless to say, I will not be going back there for any brake work.
  • easyrider300measyrider300m Member Posts: 1,116
    at the place you mentioned. I wanted just pads and they told me I needed to replace both front rotors or by law they couldnt to the brake job. I asked to see the measurements of my rotor thicknesses. They were right on the work order. I asked for the required spec and both rotors were above the required thickness by a fair amount. By the way, the old pads were not totally worn out yet but I wanted to replace them before they scored the rotors. Well, they told me that they still needed to turn the rotors and after turning they would be under spec. After arguing with him, he agreed to do the job if I replaced just one of the rotors. Since my time is worth money to me and I didnt want to have to start over again with another repair shop, I agreed and let him do the job. Shortly after this, there was a major investigation into questionable brake repairs at this national chain. Eventually, I was able to get a refund on the questionable replacement of the rotor. Another example of ---"Buyer Beware"
  • ryanbabryanbab Member Posts: 7,240
    My grandmas car (88 olds) died. Had it towed to a shop close to home. Guy told her whats wrong. Came out to be like $600 parts and labor (part was $400). She called my dad (mechanic) he went up there talked to the guy. Ended up getting the keys. They wanted to charge $75 to tow it 5 miles. He said nope. I took my truck up there and we pulled it home.

    To make a long story short my dad spent 2 hours and about $80 to fix it. Part (i forget what it was) the guy said was bad wasnt even bad. Also autozone only wanted $70 for it to his $400. He replaced a spark knock sensor and something else. Runs great again.
  • seeligseelig Member Posts: 590
    the car home?
  • shuedshued Member Posts: 107
    These happen to my old 1989 Ford Taurus in past
    two years:
    1): 18 months ago. When I change the oil
    and filter, I found the driver side outer
    CV boot was broken, and the passenger side
    outer CV boot was at bad condition, So I took
    my car into one garage. They replaced the
    two outer CV boot. When I back at home and
    get under the car. I found the mechanic has
    damaged the bushing of suspension during
    they replaced the outer CV boot. But they
    did not admitted.
    2): 6 months ago. There has a problem on my car.
    When the engine start running, the starter motor
    is keeping engaged with the flywheel. I took
    it into one garage (AAA approved), they said
    that the starter motor take extra current and
    cause the starter solenoid melted. Althrough
    I doubt this, I let them go ahead. They replace
    the starter motor and soleniod. Two weeks later,
    it happen again. I took back the car, they can not
    find any problem, and just replace the solenoid.
    Then aonther two weeks, happen agian, replace
    solenoid. At thir time, it happens, then they
    search outside help, and figure it is
    the ignition swicth problem, They replace the
    ignition switch and soleniod. Now this time it
    havs fixed the problem. But they did not admitted
    that they made a mistake to replace the
    starter motor and refuse to refund me the $300
    cost of labor and starter motor. To fix this probelm, it cost me $750 in Bay Area.
  • isellhondasisellhondas Member Posts: 20,342
    After spending most of my working career in and around shops, I will clearly state that the vast majority of mechanics are both honest and competant.

    And there are some who are neither...a small percentage.

    Then there are the customers who blame the shops for problems they didn't cause.

    This has been mentioned in another forum...but...

    "That scratch wasn't there before YOU worked on it!"

    My radiator is leaking and you worked on the brakes last month...YOU must have done something.

    etc....I've heard it all!
  • easyrider300measyrider300m Member Posts: 1,116
    maybe from your viewpoint, but I think you can see the shady ones I had to deal with from my previous posts--all true---Granted they were spread out over my long driving experience, but you can be sure I learned not to go back to those particular shady operators and of course told everyone I know about my experience---but for every car owner who catches an obvious shady one, many many other owners are all too trusting. A friend of mine was a mechanic at a Saab dealership and told me dozens of stories expecially concerning warranty billing---in the end, even dishonest warranty billing costs the consumer money in higher car prices.
  • rls9rls9 Member Posts: 9
    FYI, the HONDA dealer DID scratch my car when he worked on it. Even admitted to it even though he now denies that he did...and now wants to charge me $250 to fix it on his lot from one of his vendors when I can get the same vendor to fix it for $99. He's gone from offering to pay 50% of the cost of his error to 75% of the cost.
    Yes, isellhondas, mechanics do scratch cars when they work on them.
  • wtd44wtd44 Member Posts: 1,208
    I have just caught up on reading this thread, and must say, I sure wish the writers who did otherwise would have stated the names of the "well known national chains" that ripped them off. Is this circumstance a plague of lawyeriasis?
  • easyrider300measyrider300m Member Posts: 1,116
    Yes, I have "lawyerphobia" and thats why I didnt state the names of the national chains. Suffice it to say, the chains I had bad experience with have been reprimanded by the authorities and at least one of them had to reimburse its customers for quesionable practices. I usually like to go to a place that has a nice big picure window so you can watch the mechanics at work (or play).
  • jlflemmonsjlflemmons Member Posts: 2,242
    A friend had her van worked on at a dealership. The hood was closed on something and a small ding from the underside was apparent when the light was just right. She took it back to the dealer, they apologized, and while repairing the ding noticed another small dent on the other side of the hood, obviously older. They repaired it also, did a really nice job, and again apologized for the damage. Now, in spite of the ding, would you use these guys? You bet. The only thing worse than making a dumb mistake is to not face up to it and do the right thing.
  • isellhondasisellhondas Member Posts: 20,342
    O.K. I don't doubt that your car was damaged while at the dealership. Stuff happens and the shop ought to live up to it.

    I was talking about the many other times shops are blamed for things they flat did NOT do!

    Anyone who has owned or managed a shop (like I have)knows exactly what I'm talking about.

    It's so bad that some shops do a walk around with the customers when they leave the car and notate any damage and have the customers sign to that effect.
  • valhsvalhs Member Posts: 63
    1) Offer to change muffler bearings
    2) Rotate air in tires - including spare
    3) Side view mirror alignment
    4) Flush windshield fluid system
    5) Clean and adjust valve covers
    6) Straighten battery cables
    7) Replace water filter
    8) Adjust and re-aim brake lights
  • seeligseelig Member Posts: 590
    1.check blinker fluid
    2.rotate hubcabs
    3.drain and refill battery (recharge at no cost)
    4.update computer
  • easyrider300measyrider300m Member Posts: 1,116
    money is money no matter how much----I once took my car in for a $9.95 oil change. Bill comes---its for $14.95 plus tax plus oil disposal feel. I say: "the coupon says $9.95--why is this bill for $14.95 (plus tax & disposal). "oh" he says, "$2.00 is for topping off the windshield fluid, $2.00 for topping off tranny fluid, and $1.00 for topping off the brake fluid." "Well", I said, "top this, I aint paying anymore than the $9.95 the coupon states (plus tax and disposal fee)." And thats all I paid. But what about all those little old ladies and unsuspecting customers---Another Mechanic Horror Story
  • ryanbabryanbab Member Posts: 7,240
    I towed the car with a 2000 Chevy silverado Z71 as you know. Hit the tow haul and that 5.3 pulled it like nothing was back there. Hooked a tow rope up to the car and to my hitch.
  • seeligseelig Member Posts: 590
    is grannies car running ok now?
  • easyrider300measyrider300m Member Posts: 1,116
    this is off-topic but very timely---good for a laugh---Its called "Nowhere To Hide" Turn up your volume and Enjoy!

    http://www.funforwards.com/flash/october01/nowheretohide.cfm

  • ryanbabryanbab Member Posts: 7,240
    yep dad fixed it that night.

    cost was $80 and about 3-4 hrs of his time as opposed to a whole day and $400-500 with the other guy

    Should i send her a towing bill?

    Ryan
  • swschradswschrad Member Posts: 2,171
    yes, indeed. to get back on topic... sorta....

    terrible ruckus at the repair shop this morning... a bunch of feds and cops, swat guys, and all came barrelling in all doors looking for four more dangerous terrorists on the run. took no time at all to round up bin Drinkin, bin Loafin, and bin Stealin... but they never could find bin Workin.
  • oldharryoldharry Member Posts: 413
    Some times we hear of "xyz" shop wanted $$$$$ to fix my zoomobile, and Joe down at the corner only charged me $$$. I some times quote jobs rather high, if I don't want the job. When the customer calls back in two weeks to make an appointment, I guess no one else wanted it either. :<)

    Harry
  • easyrider300measyrider300m Member Posts: 1,116
    taking advantage of nieve customers like that---guess its up to the consumer to know as much as possible about his car so he doesnt get put through the wringer by some unscrupulous mechanics
  • isellhondasisellhondas Member Posts: 20,342
    A customer can shop if he/she doesn't like the price.

    There are some dirty miserable jobs that a lot of shops simply don't want based on painful experiences.

    The book might call for four hours labor, but the shop owner knows it's a nasty job that will tie up a stall and a technician most of the day.

    Either that or the customer has a history of being a pain to deal with.

    Hence, a high quote...the shop really doesn't want the job even at the higher quote!
  • isellhondasisellhondas Member Posts: 20,342
    Ever put upper control arm shafts in a mid-sixties Thunderbird?

    A nasty job and dangerous. A good example of what I meant.
  • rbrenton88rbrenton88 Member Posts: 186
    What other examples of 'bad' jobs can you give? I'm just curious.
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