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If you are looking at the "Customer Survey Ratings" then:
1) The person that is writing the review is basing the performance of the new tire against the tires that were just removed from the vehicle. the tires are being removed because they are most likely worn out and not performing the way they would when new.
2) You have no way to tell what kind of driver the person is that is driving the car (i.e., passive ,moderate, or aggressive).
3) You have no way to tell what mechanical condition the vehicle is in that the tires are being installed on.
4) You have no way to tell the road conditions that a person is driving the car on.
Due to the above reason i do not use the customer surveys as a recommendation tool. I base the recommendations that i make on me actually go out and participating in the tire testing that we do here every week so that you are given first hand knowledge of how the tire actually performs in an unbiased test.
If you are referring to the "Tire Rack Test Results" then you first and foremost have to take into account the the tires are tested against other tires in the same classification (i.e.., Performance summer only vs.. Performance summer only, touring all season vs.. touring all season). The Goodyear Assurance line is a basic passenger all season tire that was test against other basic passenger all season tires. In the basic passenger all season category the Triple tred is a very good tire. However if you are going to compare it to a performance all season tire and then ask which will perform better.......... Hands down the performance tire will offer better traction and handling tire that a basic passenger all season tire. In the same manor, a touring tire will offer a quieter more comfortable ride than any basic passenger all season tire.
Hopefully this will clarify the confusion with what you see in the surveys.
connor@tirerack.com
Tire & Wheel Specialist
The Tire Rack
877-522-8473 ext 269
When placing an order online or the phone, please reference Connor at ext 269
As to which of the three tires you listed (Pzero Nero M+S, Turanza LS-V or the Conti Extreme Contact) would be better would depend on what is more important to you, ride comfort or performance? the only thing i can really see from your post is that you want snow traction and for that i would recommend a snow tire. if however you are looking for the best snow capability out of an all season tire then i would recommend the Bridgestone Turanza LS-H.this tire would offer an excellent ride quality and very good snow traction for an all season tire. If performance is more important then i would recommend the Pirelli Pzero Nero MS. they would offer good snow and ice traction as well excellent dry and we traction and handling.
connor@tirerack.com
Tire & Wheel Specialist
The Tire Rack
877-522-8473 ext 269
When placing an order online or the phone, please reference Connor at ext 269
If you are looking at price vs.. performance then i would actually say the Avon is the way to go.
connor@tirerack.com
Tire & Wheel Specialist
The Tire Rack
877-522-8473 ext 269
When placing an order online or the phone, please reference Connor at ext 269
http://www.gsp9700.com/pub/search/findgsp9700.cfm
connor@tirerack.com
Tire & Wheel Specialist
The Tire Rack
877-522-8473 ext 269
When placing an order online or the phone, please reference Connor at ext 269
Summer tires are designed and intended for people who have performance vehicles and are looking to drive them in the manor they were designed for (whether legal or not). This hopefully is not on public roadway but then again we have all see the video's on the internet. there are also several SCCA class race groups that require high traction street legal tires to compete. and that is where the ultra high performance tires come in.
connor@tirerack.com
Tire & Wheel Specialist
The Tire Rack
877-522-8473 ext 269
When placing an order online or the phone, please reference Connor at ext 269
What do you think of the Bridgestone Dueler AT Revos?
OEM size is 265/65/17. Should I stick with OEM size or go to 265/70/17?
Comments/ suggestions/alternatives?
Need your help, please.
It's down to two tires for my wife's 2000 Honda Acoord EX 4door 4-cyl. (195/65/55R, H rated):
Bridgestone Potenza G009
or
Cooper Lifeliner Touring SLE (H rated)
We live in Connecticut, so weather (rain, snow, sleet, slush) is always an issue in winter. Wife does 45 minutes to an hour each day of mostly highway driving to her job in NY.
I am kinda at a loss cause there aren't many reviews online for the Cooper (TireRack doesn't sell them). At TireRack, the Bridgestone seems to get good reviews...
They are both about the same price at the various dealers around here....so not sure which way to go. So which is the better tire??
Thanks in advance for your help.
Mike
Thanks!
SD
I wouldn't say the OE RSA's the worst but the are definitely not the best. I would rate these three tires in the following order.
205/50R17 Michelin Pilot Exalto AS -- 161.00 ea
205/50R17 Avon Tech M550 A/S -- 102.00 ea
205/50R17 Goodyear Eagle RS-A -- 165.00 ea
connor@tirerack.com
Tire & Wheel Specialist
The Tire Rack
877-522-8473 ext 269
When placing an order online or the phone, please reference Connor at ext 269
connor@tirerack.com
Tire & Wheel Specialist
The Tire Rack
877-522-8473 ext 269
When placing an order online or the phone, please reference Connor at ext 269
I'm look for good wet(hydroplane) and snow traction all season tires, that have reasonable ride and comfort and good tread life, and of coarse decent handling. I'm from Vancouver BC, Canada, sometimes drive up to a couple hours a day, more highway than city.
First, my tire size is 185/65-15H (86-loadwieght), can I size up to 195/60-15H or would 195/65-15H be better? Is their an advantage.
Second, I'm deciding between the Bridgestone Potenza G009, Turanza LS-H, and BF Goodrich Traction T/A. What's your best recommendation? Would you recommend something else?
Krzys
If you are looking for the smoothest rolling tire then i would recommend using a touring style of tire similar to the OE tires on this car. There were three OE options for this car from the factory. the three tire were 195/65R15 Continental Touring CH95 (56.00 ea), 195/65R15 Michelin Energy MXV4 PLUS (110.00 ea), 195/65R15 Goodyear Eagle LS ( 73.00 ea) and all of these carried a 91H service description. Out of these three tire i would say the Michelin would offer the smoothest ride due to different materials used in the construction of the sidewall.
connor@tirerack.com
Tire & Wheel Specialist
The Tire Rack
877-522-8473 ext 269
When placing an order online or the phone, please reference Connor at ext 269
connor@tirerack.com
Tire & Wheel Specialist
The Tire Rack
877-522-8473 ext 269
When placing an order online or the phone, please reference Connor at ext 269
P265/65R17 Bridgestone A/T Revo -- 150.00 each
connor@tirerack.com
Tire & Wheel Specialist
The Tire Rack
877-522-8473 ext 269
When placing an order online or the phone, please reference Connor at ext 269
One dealer recommended Kuhmo HP 4 716 tires, while another told me that the added weight of the adapted minivan would make those Kuhmos a poor choice, and recommended Bridgestone Potenza G 009's instead. I have also considered Dunlop SP 60's, Goodyear Regatta's, and maybe even Dunlop SP Sport A2's because of the high heat and traction ratings (and because I just put a pair on my BMW 318ti, and love them!).
I'm also on a budget, so I'd like to keep the replacement with all costs under $500.
What do you think? Are there any other tires that I should be investigating?
ChiTiger
connor@tirerack.com
Tire & Wheel Specialist
The Tire Rack
877-522-8473 ext 269
When placing an order online or the phone, please reference Connor at ext 269
The noise or humming sound that you hear when you are driving is caused by the air being compressed and forced through the tread channels and the repetitive action of the tread blocks hitting the pavement. The only way to make a tire quieter is to find a way to break up the air flow and to randomly change the size of the tread blocks. You find that cheaper tires tend to have straighter tread lines and the tread blocks are all the same. This type of tire will be very noisy. If you look at the higher end tires you will normally find the size of the tread blocks vary from block to block and the lateral tread channels tend to be angled more aggressively and randomly to break up the airflow between the blocks.
connor@tirerack.com
Tire & Wheel Specialist
The Tire Rack
877-522-8473 ext 269
When placing an order online or the phone, please reference Connor at ext 269
connor@tirerack.com
Tire & Wheel Specialist
The Tire Rack
877-522-8473 ext 269
When placing an order online or the phone, please reference Connor at ext 269
1) 195/60R15 Bridgestone Turanza LS-H -- 96.00 ea
2) 195/60R15 Bridgestone Potenza G009 -- 62.00 ea
3) 195/60R15 BF Goodrich Traction T/A -- 57.00 ea
The LS-H would offer the best ride quality and excellent dry and wet traction. I would also recommend them because of how much you drive on the interstate.
connor@tirerack.com
Tire & Wheel Specialist
The Tire Rack
877-522-8473 ext 269
When placing an order online or the phone, please reference Connor at ext 269
connor@tirerack.com
Tire & Wheel Specialist
The Tire Rack
877-522-8473 ext 269
When placing an order online or the phone, please reference Connor at ext 269
connor@tirerack.com
Tire & Wheel Specialist
The Tire Rack
877-522-8473 ext 269
When placing an order online or the phone, please reference Connor at ext 269
I have decided to go with winters for the Max. The tirerack webiste has a number of options. Local tire shops in the Toronto area have indicated that the Blizzak WS-50 and LM-22 are great tires but the wear is high and I'll probably need to replace at about 15K miles. However they have been unable to comment on the Blizzak REVO, a newer model.
Any recommendations for winters Blizzak or otherwise ? Ride comfort and wear are important factors.
Am I correct in stating that you should never mess with the load rating of a tire (i.e. go to a lower load rating). Would going to a lower load rating heat the tire beyond its accepted range?
Laura
I like it a lot, but I wish it handled better, and had less body roll. I know, I know, should have figured that out before I bought it.
I checked out some options at the TR, but wondered if you had any recommendations - springs, tire upsize (does this affect gas mileage?), whatever. I currently use Nokians dedicated for winter, and could leave them mounted if I got new wheels and tires. Also, I don't think I want to do anything that will stop others from eventually buying this thing from me. But if it handled better, I might put another 50K miles on it.
Thank you. Tim
Also, what would be a good replacement for these 15" tires. I want a fairly quiet tire, that is excellent in wet and dry stopping (don't get much snow) and has a smooth ride....that would be a good fit for my Regal LS. Thanks
So, I went to buy a new set of Blizzaks and the salesman is trying to convince me to go with the Nokian winter tires. He suggests the rubber compound is longer lasting at its "sticky" stage and that the increased number and design of the sipes makes these a better tire than the Blizzaks. But all the reviews I've been able to get my hands on have rated the Nokians quite a bit lower than the Blizzaks.
Any opinion? Thanks
I need to order a snow wheel/tire package for 2004 BMW 325i.
I need to know if Sport Edition F6 wheels in 17 inch size comes with BMW Center caps. I know that ASA rims do.
If not, do you know if I can buy them?
I own a 2001 Divic DX coupe. I need the best tires that exist for my car
Second question: I'm hearing a lot of commotion about people saying that TripleTreads or HydroEdges are the best tires, then you say the Turanza LS-T's are even better, better yet, I hear people saying that Traction T/A H beats all of them. I'm so confused I can't take it anymore!
Thnx
My question is what is the likely impact of going to a minus size tire/wheel combo on the performance of the car? Secondly, what would be difference of the Blizzak LM22 vs WSor WR models? My daily use of the car is short commute with a spirited driving style; and occasional weekend jaunts into the snow belt cities - which I avoid doing during heavy storm conditions.
My other thought has been to just keep using the Turanza tires & buy a summer tire. I could purchase a summer tire for fun NASA events (not actually racing ... just spirited driving!) ...and run the Turanza tires only after summer, but I fear they will not perform adequately in snow conditions. Anyway, thanks in advance for your thoughts on winter wheels & minus size performance!
Ron in Ohio
Thanks a bunch,
Clueless
You noted on Feb 15, 2005 that this was a fairly new tire. Now that its more than 8 months later what is your take?
I'm looking to replace the horrible oem Goodyear RS-A on my '06 Infiniti M35 (245/45 18) with either the Pirelli P Zero Nero M&S of the Avon Tech M550. I must confess a somewhat more comfortable feeling with the Pirelli name; however that is an unfairly biased thought due to name recognition only. The Avon's are higher rated and a better price. Thanks for your input.
BTW: your website has an error on the rating comparison chart (the P Zeros are on there twice).
Any info would be greatly appreciated.
Froot Loops
Thanks for the reply. How many miles do you have on them? Some of the past posts had some observations about a noticable degradation after abut 800 to 1000 miles.
I'd still like to hear from Connor before ordering.
225/50R17 BRIDGESTONE BLIZZAK LM-22 -- 161.00
225/50R17 BRIDGESTONE BLIZZAK WS-50 -- 136.00
connor@tirerack.com
Tire & Wheel Specialist
The Tire Rack
877-522-8473 ext 269
When placing an order online or the phone, please reference Connor at ext 269
1. What is the automotive industry-accepted method of determining lateral acceleration?
I recently saw a television show (with I think Gordon Elliot) zipping around in a Mitshubishi Evo and I thought he said that the car can attain a g value greater than 1.00 (I'm assuming he meant lateral acceleration). However, MotorTrend rates this car at 0.85 g (the Corvette is > 1).
2. The Mazda Miata is classically accepted as a marvel of handling, however, it's lateral acceleration is under 0.90. Is lateral acceleration a proper way of quantitatively evaluating the "handling" of a car?
3. From cars that I have swapped tires on, there seems to be a large improvement in "handling" when going to wider tires. How much of an improvement can typically be obtained?
This is not necessarily true. The number you are referring to is called the load index (i.e.., 97Y, 89H, or 92T. The numeric designation is the Load Index). This is a scaled number and can mean different things in different sizes. There really is no rule of thumb for increasing or decreasing the Load Index.
connor@tirerack.com
Tire & Wheel Specialist
The Tire Rack
877-522-8473 ext 269
When placing an order online or the phone, please reference Connor at ext 269
I only have a few hundred miles on them (less then 1000) and so far nothing, but I too have heard that they start to degrade some after the first thousand or so. So I'll be watching out for that.
Froot Loops
Dunlop Wintersport M3
Pirelli Winter Carving
Nokian WR A.W.P.2
The Nokian is not technically a snow tire, but it seems that it would be better than the MXVs. How much improvement will I see by adding these tires? If it isn't much, are my concerns about Blizzaks or Michelin X-Ice tires on dry pavement overblown? Any help or suggestions would be appreciated.
I'm looking for a tire to compliment my Wife's newly lifted Isuzu Axiom. The truck now has a 2inch lift and the stock tires (235/65/17) now look way too small.
P265/65R17 Bridgestone A/T Revos were recommended to me by members of several Isuzu forums that I belong to. But, I'm concerned that my wheels are only 7in wide (factory 17x7), while Bridgestone seems to recommend a 7.5 wide wheel. Do I need to be concerned?
If the 265 is too wide, what other sizes would you recommend that are about 30.5" tall? I would like to stay with a width of at least 255. if possible.
Thanks for any help you can provide.
If you have comments about your own tire setup or want to get into other general tire issues, please head over to Tires, tires, tires. That way Connor won't have to plow through off-topic posts trying to help folks with the limited time he has to participate (especially this time of year).
Thanks!
Steve, Host
Because the vehicle is equipped with ABS and i believe traction control i would not recommend mixing tire sizes. When the vehicle computer picks up the front axle spinning at a different speed than the rear it will try and engage the Dynamic Stability Controls to get the wheels spinning the same speed. Since there are different size the and will never spin at the same speeds the DSC will be working all the time and would eventually fail. The vehicle would need to have four matching tires on it at all times.
connor@tirerack.com
Tire & Wheel Specialist
The Tire Rack
877-522-8473 ext 269
When placing an order online or the phone, please reference Connor at ext 269