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ah em, Ray, me thinks you've been enhaling too much plasma dust. lol.
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The future of incentives
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If you go to this site http://www.hyundai-motor.com/common/html/showroom/e_catalog/nfs01- - - /sonata.html you will find lots of info. Works best in IE6.
One a side note, Hyundai's site is one of the very best for detailed pictures and layout.
It will be interesting to see if this new Sonata has a much larger interior size over the old model.
One thing I did not like was the shift gate design. I have seen this on other cars and just do not understand why this would be an advantage over a straigh pull back?
Now they are almost commonplace in upscale vehicles and transmissions which have a manual shift feature.
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I was of the exact same opinion. I still prefer the '00 GLS my wife has. I like the black trim and rubber moldings better than the chrome...more European.
The new one does look like a true winner though, inside and out. Hyundai has always needed to work on their interiors from a cosmetics/materials standpoint and they seem to be getting it right now. Will be interesting to give it a real once over.
I know it's a sedan, but I think that teal color is so 1993 Altima - I'd love to see updated colors on such a great looking car.
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I thought the same thing . . . I feel like this happens a lot with some of the automotive manufacturers. They spent so much time on market analysis in designing the car . . . I'm surprised the conclusion was that limited array of colors. Oh well. Fortunately, for me, I like some of those limited colors.
I liked the Ford Five Hundred in pictures but several things did not work for me in person. Small front wheelwell, uncomfortable rear seat and underpowered engine.
I hope the 2006 Sonata has the interior comfort I am looking for. The gadgets do not mean to much to me, but if it is comfortable and quite, then I would most likely buy it.
I drove a 2003 XG350 some time back and it was simply too small in the front. The steering wheel hit my legs. Additionally, I did not think it was very quite and it was under powered.
Then why bother with the teal, combining the worst of both worlds?
I guess I was just looking for something more exciting than bright, light, dark, and muted gray or brown. It might look simply spiffing in a metallic red or light blue - I'm specifically thinking of some of the nice hues that are made available to Honda Civic Hybrid customers.
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Please don't misunderstand me - I'm not trying to slam the upcoming Sonata. I like it, and I think they've done a whole lot right. I just prefer a few more color options, and would be somewhat disappointed if they weren't available.
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Don't forget blaze orange. I saw that on a new Maxima the other day. I thought it looked quite bad--on that car anyway. Unless you are a U of Texas Longhorns fan perhaps.
In light of this I guess the Sonata colors are completely consistent with Hyundai's goals for this car. I was just ignorant about the reasons because I almost never look at Acura, Lexus or other luxury brands.
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The nav system might not come to the US and even if it did, if you don't order it, then there would be a traditional radio
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I will reativate tonight.
I have a questions, does Edmuns accept money from any car maker for any reason?
Google "Watch the picture the my NF Sonata"
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150,000?
Which car will it take the most sales away from? Accord? Camry? Altima?
All of that having been said, I really like the looks of the car, inside and out. It looks very, very sharp. I think it'll outdo the last-gen Sonata in sales.
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I feel that that 150,000 for the significantly improved version is a fair stretch goal. I think 120,000 units is easily attainable with the right exposure.
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PS- An interesting note is that the redesigned Altima, while significantly increasing the models sales and market share, hasnt really taken a dent out of the Camry and Accord sales. I'm sure some Camry buyers may have been swayed, but for better or worse, Toyota has offset this small number to fleet. And the Accord has more or less maintained its position. Its the smaller players that have taken a beating- witness the Mitsu Galant for example, or sales of even the redesigned Malibu, the Dodge Intrepid/Stratus, the new Suzuki Verona... none are selling anywhere near expectations.
I like the look of the new sonata and it may steal some sales away from accord/cam/altima but it's not going to be easy.
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just a codename of hyundai
only 'F' means that it's mid-size sedan
some other exam..
LC:accent {C is compact sedan)
XD:elantra
GK:tiburon
EF,NF:sonata
XG:XG300,350 (G is greater than F)
SM:santa fe
JM:tucson (M represents SUV)
I will definitely be shopping the new Sonata, unfortunately will have to wait for the next gen. Just bought wife a new car in Sept.
I can only imagine how much better it will be in 4-5 years. Almost has me drooling with anticipation. Of course by then I may have drowned in my own spit!
Looked at the Tuscon the other week. Hadn't paid attention to the write ups. Was quiet surprised to see the dual exhaust, very nice touch. Also looks sweet on the Sonata!
One of my H.S. buddies had an 89 Excel, used to ride with her on the 55 mile one way trip. Managed to put 125K miles on it during the 3 years of ownership, driving back and forth to school. Anything over 65mph was scarier than the scariest roller coaster! That may explain the handling. But was better than the bus any day.