By accessing this website, you acknowledge that Edmunds and its third party business partners may use cookies, pixels, and similar technologies to collect information about you and your interactions with the website as described in our
Privacy Statement, and you agree that your use of the website is subject to our
Visitor Agreement.
Comments
Thanks,
B.
-juice
I'm not bashing the vehicle. I think its great for what it is. I also like the Murano and FX vehicles, and this fits right in ... i was just hoping it wasn't going to fit in and actually give me something different. Its a shame because I think its a great looking vehicle.
just my opinion.
If this were smaller and lighter (at least 500 lbs lighter), without giving up any of the features or power, I'd be sold.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
-juice
I will repeat the Acura RDX will be sold loaded with SH-AWD, from leather to moonroof, unless they change how they have been selling their vehicles so stop comparing a base CX-7 with Front Wheel drive at a price of about $24,000! Go to the CX-7 website and build one, it is more like 30 grand when you do it loaded with moonroof and AWD. I am not a defender of the RDX just get frustrated when people compare base models with loaded models. This is like when I hear people taking the price of the RAV4 and start saying how it is cheaper then the CX-7 and has a V6...start adding the options up including that the V6 is an option on the RAV4 and it becomes a lot more expensive with all those options that makes it more like a CX-7.
I strongly feel the CX-7 is a very good value for what it offers, styling, ergonomics, performance, and safety. I thought when they came out with the pricing I was impressed.
For what it is worth, my pure guess on the RDX pricing will be $29,700.... but who knows.
B.
P.S. Anyone hear any news on the CX-9, it is supposed to come out at the NYIAS in a few weeks.
Edmunds RAV4 was $32.7k and it didn't even have the 3rd row seat. Prices can really get up there.
Just "built" my own, AWD Touring with 6CD, moonroof, and tow package, comes out to $29,680 retail.
The NAV option is extremely expensive, ouch. It's a $4 grand package. I managed to load up a GT and hit $34,305.
So basically $24-34k is the range, with probably most of them around $26-30k or so.
-juice
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
Actually, in order to fit comfortably in most cars these days, I find I do require a power seat ... so that puts me into a Touring model. Then, from there, an additional $800 to get HIDs and auto climate control in the Grand Touring doesn't seem like such a bad leap. I guess I could get away with the moonroof/bose/cd package, rather than the full-blown techno package ... but why compromise?
Honestly, it wouldn't be bad at all because, with a slight discount, it would dip below $30k, and I find that pretty good for all those options. Problem still remains that I'm not looking for a 4,000 lb. truck with a 4-cyl engine.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
Currently, the Tribute is 175" long, 70" tall, and weighs in at 3300 lbs.
The CX7 is 185" long, 65" high, and weighs 4000 lbs.
In my imagination, the CX7 would have been 170" long, 58-60" high, and weigh 3500-3600 lbs (which, by the way, is very close to Forester size, but weighing more, of course, due to the added luxo aspect).
So, really, they made it different from the Tribute 10" one way and 5" the other .... same as me. AND, the proportions of my proposed vehicle would look the same since the height is still about 35% the length.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
But in terms of equipment, mine is nearly the opposite...
power seats: too slow for me
HIDs: if you need them, get LASIK or better glasses
auto climate control: drives me crazy, think HAL
Pretty funny, car makers really have to meet diverse wants, eh?
-juice
I think that may be the consensus with a lot of buyers. They think that the 4 cylinder engine is not suffecient, when in fact, it is. The 2.3L MZR DISI Turbo has a lot of internal upgraded components that are not found in a n/a 4 cylinder engine. The engine is built to have a turbo. Turbo charging has become more reliable as well.
So, take that information on the advanced 2.3L MZR DISI Turbo, and there really is no negative in comparo against a V6, except possibly requirement of premium fuel.
I do happen to think the majority of the people would prefer a V6 over a turbo 4, mainly because they are uneducated on the advancements of turbocharging.
Indeed, AWD,leather, and a moonroof (along with a host of other features) is about $30K. But what about those who don't care about having leather? Then the price drops significantly. I think hands down the CX-7 is a better deal. Also, Acura's sell at MSRP, where Mazda's have flex room in the invoice vs MSRP.
I do understand the direct injection helps out with this, but I don't believe it can overcome the 700 lb weight penalty it has to endure.
I have no problem with a turbo'd 4-banger. My problem is that I don't want such a heavy vehicle. I prefer nimble over numb.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
power seats: too slow for me
I agree. If only they would offer a manual seat with as much adjustment, I'd be quite happy.
HIDs: if you need them, get LASIK or better glasses
I would have gotten the LASIK this year, but my wife wanted a child instead.
auto climate control: drives me crazy, think HAL
now THIS I love. Set it and forget it. I don't want to have to mess with fan speeds ever again.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
I agree. If only they would offer a manual seat with as much adjustment, I'd be quite happy.
I would not get power seats with a car I share with my wife, Then they are too slow,
On the other hand, I use the driver seat memory so I can instantly have two positions, even for myself. This comes in really handy after knee surgery getting in and out of the car, but has always been useful.
Without the memory, the power seat is a waste of time and hardware, unless you need extra adjustments that aren't offered with the manual seat.
http://www.canadiandriver.com/articles/mlf/07cx-7.htm
I do understand the direct injection helps out with this, but I don't believe it can overcome the 700 lb weight penalty it has to endure.
The MS6 has no turbo lag with the MZR 2.3L DISI Turbo, but, it does not have an auto tranny. I quess we will have to wait to drive it to see if it does have any lag.
exactly. A stick makes it very easy to overcome the lag simply by bypassing those lowest RPMs altogether. The WRX shows this very well. Drive the stick and it feels like a racecar, but drive the auto and it feels like you're stuck in molasses off the line.
Now, of course, this engine is not as boosted in the CX7 as it is in the MS6 ... like you said, only a drive will tell.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
Tried to post in the Mazda CX-9 discussion board, but not sure how to, clicked on 'start discussion' but nothing happened, maybe they will move this post over...anyhow Mazda news has it... here it is guys:
Of interest in the press release:
"Every CX-9 is powered by a new 3.5-liter V6 engine driven through a standard six-speed automatic transmission. Final drive is through either front- or all-wheel drive. Brakes are large ventilated discs on all four wheels.
More detail on specific model content will be available closer to launch, but standard features on all trims include air conditioning, power windows, power door locks with remote keyless entry, cruise control, and six airbags. To help avoid accidents, all CX-9s are fitted as standard with Dynamic Stability Control (DSC), Roll Stability Control (RSC) and Anti-Lock Brakes (ABS). An optionally available power-operated lift gate provides one-touch opening and closing access to the cargo hold"
My initial thoughts are disapointed with the styling as compared to the CX-7...sure they are similiar but it is like they tried to take the CX-7 design and make it conservative... the front end simply looks a lot better on the CX-7, that bright grill just does not do it justice, nor does that bumper
No surprise on the engine, same thing as the Ford cousins...but hopefully this will mean better mileage then the turbo 4 in the CX-7..hopefully the interior is essentially the same as the CX-7, standard feature set is quite impressive.
I want a CX-7 but practically thinking I need a 3rd row...this might"> be the car for me without going over to the minivan side
Later,
B.
You made me spit soda out my nose! Thanks!
CX9 looks good to me. I think it had to be slightly more conservative. I think it still looks very nice, though.
-juice
I think the Fiesta is more likely to come than the 2.
-juice
The only concern I have is the Ford V6. However, the 3.0L Duratec was not all that bad of an engine. I would expect the 3.5L to be a little better, considering the 3.0L was a pretty old design.
I'm happy to see Mazda expanding their line-up. If they want to be a recognized brand, like Honda or Toyota, they need to take this step. Kudos Mazda!
p.s. I hope they build the Kabura!
-juice
Cool factoids:
Most people loosely regard the Tribute and Mariner as a rebadged Escape... all three of these car based compact utes are actually built on the previous Mazda 626 car platform. Something usually not mentioned from a Ford or Mercury salesperson. The Tribute gets some special Mazda only components to differentiate the offerings. Translation= "Zoom Zoom".
The Mazda6 is built with a mix of domestic and imported parts at the Auto Alliance Center in Flat Rock, Michigan. This plant is more Mazda than Ford, yet by contract there must always be at least one Ford product produced. That current Ford product happens to be the award winning Ford Mustang...great Mazda quality control in both. The Ford Fusion, Mercury Milan, and Lincoln whatever are all produced in Mexico with only "some" of the components from the Mazda6.
Mazdaspeed6 is built 100% in Japan for engineering purposes.
The B-Series and Ranger are essentially the same under the skin. The B-Series gets upgraded suspension and steering components to incorporate the "Zoom Zoom" philosophy.
Anyways...gotta get back to workin' Mazda deals.
ZOOM ZOOM
For those who care, it is built on a Euro Mazda 626 platform.
"67" when you say CX-7? What about CX-9?
Fusion Customer---"Oh but american 4 cylinders stink" (actual comment)
Response. Well Ford realized that Japanese companies have the best 4 cylinder designs and the engine in this car was designed 100% by Mazda. Ford basically wrote a blank check and said build us the best 4 cylinder possible. But it is made in the US.
SALE
Mark.
Actually,the MZR 2.3 4-cyl. engines used in the Mazda6/Fusion are Mazda designed, and built in the Ford/Mazda plant in Chihuahua, Mexico. Not the U.S.
This engine is a little different then the MZR 2.3 built in Japan that is used in the Mazda3/Mazda5/Mazdaspeed6/CX-7. The Mazda6 engine has a different intake system and some other little differences. The MZR 2.3 DISI Turbo used in the Mazdaspeed6/CX-7 actually has more in common with the Mazda3/Mazda5 engine, rather then the Mazda6 MZR 2.3 engine.
-juice
The only people in the US to have driven this vehicle are Mazda employees out in Irvine, CA. I'm not totally sure they are allowed to speak about it yet.
Out of our first allocation of CX-7's, only one has a VIN yet. We are projecting our first shipment to reach us sometime late May (at the earliest) or early June. Similar time frames are to be expected through out the country, give or take a week or two, depending upon where you live.
we had one at our dealership last Wednesday...
Was a Mazda rep driving it? How did it look?
-juice
-It is a good looking vehicle in person.
-Looks slightly larger than it really is, and I mean this in a good way, (if that makes any sense)
-Lighter colors look better than the dark ones. Their is not enough light colored contrast for the dark colors so it looks a little plain
-There was no marking on the outside to indicate what trim level they were, but it was pretty basic. As a result, the interior was frankly a little boring to look at from the perspective I had. The instrument cluster looks pretty cool, but I think needs to be viewed from the inside for full effect. The center console has a lot of unused real estate if you dont have the upgraded sound and nav package. Hopefully the upgraded version looks better.
-Seats were all basic black leather and nothing exciting to look at. I thought they would be more "race" infuenced with bolsters etc.
Bottom line, I liked the car a lot, but how the upgraded interior looks will be a strong deciding factor for me in a buying decision.