Honda Accord Tires and Wheels

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  • elroy5elroy5 Member Posts: 3,735
    I just put LS-Vs on my 03 V6 two weeks ago. Why would you mess with success? While the Turanzas did not ride any smoother than the Michelins, they did offer more grip (especially when it's wet, when you need all the traction you can get), and they were also quieter. Being a heavier tire, they may affect my gas mileage. That is to be determined.
  • panzerleaderpanzerleader Member Posts: 15
    Elroy, you are correct BUT as much as I love the LSVs the Pole position tires as well as the other Michelin Pilots had better results than the LSV (Check out Tire Rack) I am especially looking for the cross wind effects. YOU will notice this with the LSV on your car. THEY ARE A GREAT TIRE!
  • elroy5elroy5 Member Posts: 3,735
    The only tires rated higher than the LS-Vs (grand touring category) were the LS-Z. The pole position tires are in the ultra high performance category, and not rated against the LS-Vs. While the sport tires will probably have better traction, they will probably wear faster, have a stiffer ride, and make more noise. It all depends on what you want most. High performance, and smooth, quiet ride, don't go together. You have to sacrifice some things to get the "ultra performance".
  • carpusuvcarpusuv Member Posts: 5
    Been reading the high praise for the Turanza LS V, however, the card on the door jamb says P 205 65R 15 92V , which is my replacement objective. In doing research, there is no such size in the LS V series... and a Grand Touring option could be the Good Year Response Edge... in the High Performance line, the Michelin Pilot Exalto A/S keeps coming up strong. Anyone have some experience with either of these?
    Any guidance appreciated.
  • dudleyrdudleyr Member Posts: 3,469
    I hope to get 40 eventually,ocnce the car breaks in and I put in synthetic oil, and a little extra air in the tires. I accept the challenge. :D My brother also has a 4-cyl stick Accord and he averages 38 mpg on his commute - about 45 miles highway and 5 miles city driving. He does keep it under 60 though to help with the mileage.

    What do people think about the stock tires? I wanted the Michelin, and the salesman said that was what was on my car when I called (he was 215 miles away so I couldn't just run down and check). When I got back home after purchasing the vehicle I noticed the tires were the Bridgestone. I think they handle fine, but they certainly don't wear as well 260 vs 440. I also think the Michelin have slightly less rolling resistance.

    Not sure if I want to make them switch tires/wheels or not.

    I actually hydroplaned yesterday (there are grooves in the road from wear and deepish water collects there) kinda scary for about a second, but not sure the Michelins would have done any better there.
  • robr2robr2 Member Posts: 8,805
    ...but they certainly don't wear as well 260 vs 440...Be aware that you can't compare treadwear ratings across brands - they are only applicable to comparisons within the same brand.
  • blufz1blufz1 Member Posts: 2,045
    I got 47k on 3 different oem michelin sets. I think I would call the salesman and tell him you 1. wanted the difference in money back on the tire switch. or 2.wanted a different car equipped w/ the Michelins they represented to you. or 3. wanted reimbursement for wear and tear to come back and get the tires changed out. Be firm/talk to the manager if necessary. You could settle for equivalent $ credit on first major service. Get them to fax it to you in writing. Hope this helps. Just be careful not to get rear ended trying to get 40. :)
  • tallman1tallman1 Member Posts: 1,874
    I have the Bridgestones on my 06 Accord and I really like them.
  • bristol2bristol2 Member Posts: 736
    I have the Michelin Pilots and they are not particularly special.

    I am interested in hearing any suggestions on tires. I know BMW engineers are picky about what they suggest to use on their cars, I'm not sure if Honda owners have any suggestions.

    I have a 140 mile round trip commute 3 days a week and would spend the money to upgrade the handling and/ or improve mileage and/or reduce road noise.
  • tallman1tallman1 Member Posts: 1,874
    I'll bet you'd find this thread interesting: Honda Accord Tires and Wheels
  • elroy5elroy5 Member Posts: 3,735
    Michelin MXV4s were original equipment on my car. They are light, and have low rolling resistance and so are good for gas mileage. I had to replace them at 43k miles however, because they are weak, and prone to road hazard damage. After reading reviews and surveys on tirerack.com I decided to go with the Bridgestone Turanza LS-V Grand touring tire. They may hurt my mileage a little, but they are a heavier, stronger tire. The ride is just as smooth as the Michelins, have less road noise, and better traction (especially in wet conditions, when traction is needed most). Everyone wants different things from their tires (performance, mileage, smooth ride, tread wear), so I would advise you to look at the tire surveys and reviews/tests on tirerack, and pick the tire that best suits your needs.
  • blufz1blufz1 Member Posts: 2,045
    Read the tirerack summaries and comments by drivers. hope this helps.
  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,546
    I forget which Bridgestone model the Accord comes with, but I would just drive on em and use them up. Probably not a noticeable difference to the Michelins.

    I have an '05, with about 12K on it now, and the M's have been fine. Not too much snow driving, but the one storm we had this year, they were OK. I think they are fine for the car (4 cyl MT, but an EX-L)

    I do recall that a lot of people rag on the Michelins, and I certainly wouldn't pay the price to get a new set when these wear out, but I also wouldn't have gotten rid of the Bridgestones if it had come with them.

    Oh, I also keep extra PSI in the tires. Helps firm up the handling. Just keep the same ratio (ie, if the sticker says 32/29, I will add ~10% and go with 35/32).

    2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.

  • blufz1blufz1 Member Posts: 2,045
    Come on Dudley,get 'em. "The road goes on forever and the grinding never ends."
  • stevehechtstevehecht Member Posts: 96
    I just replaced my stock Michelin MXM4s with Kumho ECSTA SPTs--same 215/50-17s. A huge difference in handling, steering response (of course), and road comfort (surprisingly). The noise level is about the same (Michelins are supposed to be quiet). I feel like I have a new car, and the Kumhos are half the price of the Michelins. Haven't driven on wet roads yet, but the Michelins made me very nervous about hydroplaning, they just didn't feel secure. I've got a 2007 V6.

    Anyone want to buy four Michelin Pilot HX MXM4s (17") for $240? (<1500 miles, perfect condition)
  • carpusuvcarpusuv Member Posts: 5
    Bought the Good Year ResponsEdge and they ride great, slight vibration in steering at 65, tires track and respond well, even on wet roads...
  • roberts5roberts5 Member Posts: 35
    I only got 41,000 on my Mich MXV4s. I wanted better traction, so I went to Costco and got the Mich Pilot Exaltas. They have been much better in traction. I might have lost one mpg or it might just have been the same time all gas went to 10% ethenol. Anyway I like the Exaltas.
  • blufz1blufz1 Member Posts: 2,045
    Great. Glad uou like them. Guess they didn't have the Comfort tread in your size.
  • dudleyrdudleyr Member Posts: 3,469
    Well - I didn't really "get em", but they did send me a check for $84, which is the difference in price between the two at tirerack.

    I promptly purchased an OEM outside temp guage with the money. Should be here Monday.
  • blufz1blufz1 Member Posts: 2,045
    Congrats on having the guts to get more!
  • elroy5elroy5 Member Posts: 3,735
    The Bridgestone Turanzas were rated high for their "wet traction" on tirerack.com. I finally got to try them out on wet roads with standing water. They definitely passed, with flying colors. I will not be buying any more Michelin tires. I am willing to give up some fuel economy for stronger, better performing tires.
  • lilengineerboylilengineerboy Member Posts: 4,116
    The Bridgestone Turanzas were rated high for their "wet traction" on tirerack.com.

    I think these subjective numbers for wet traction on tirerack are more important then the "traction" rating on the tire, as that is solely defined as wet braking, and it is self tested by the tire mfg.

    I had good luck with the RainForceMX4s and EnergyMXV4s I've had in the past, but man they were pricy relative to the competion. It sounds like your research paid off.
  • bailey24bailey24 Member Posts: 3
    I drive a Honda Accord EXL 4 Cyl automatic with about 150K KM on it and for the past year have experienced a "wobble" (for lack of a better term) in the vehicle. I believe whatever is has been causing this issue also caused by brake's to warp as well as it can be felt more and more (over the past year since I had my brakes done at Honda) when braking on the highway or firmly while on the side streets.

    The roads are smooth and while in rush hour I can feel the entire car, my body and even see my legs/hands swaying slightly due to the "wobble" without braking or giving it any gas. (tire balance was completed and they are brand new Michelin MXV4's...also felt it on my Pirelli snow tires)

    Honda service test drove it and stated they didn't feel anything. I'm in sales and drive 35K/year and can feel it everyday so it's driving me crazy.

    Anyone have any ideas? Anyone else experience the same issue?

    Please help
  • kiawahkiawah Member Posts: 3,666
    Bent wheel, out of round tire, tires out of balance, bad wheel bearing, to name a few.

    Why don't you get someone to drive your car, you get in another vehicle and drive next to it (and behind it at an angle so you can sight down the side of the car) down the interstate. Watch all the wheels from different angles perspectives, to see if you can visually identify which wheel has the problem.
  • bailey24bailey24 Member Posts: 3
    Thanks for the advice...I will try that. I'm thinking it has to do with the vehicle itself and not the tires/rims. I have brand new Michelin MXV4's on them with the stock Honda Alloy Rims AND my winter tires are second year owned Pirelli on stock Honda rims. With either set, I can feel the issue.

    I'm tired of wasting my Honda dealer's time...I even spent $500 bucks to replace the engine vibration absorption plate thinking it could be transfer. Next step is a friend's mechanic as it's a 2003 almost out of warranty

    I'll post my finds!
  • elroy5elroy5 Member Posts: 3,735
    Jack the car up (wheel off the ground). Grab the tire from each side by the tread, and push/pull on opposite sides. does the wheel move (even a little)? Check suspension for looseness, parts that look worn or bent. Turn the wheel by hand, do you feel resistance, hear or feel like something is grinding or loose? You can get a serious wobble from broken belts in the tires, but if this has happened with different tires, it's doubtful both sets are bad. Good luck finding the problem.
  • 94accord_lover94accord_lover Member Posts: 42
    This discussion board is all about replacement tires and/or wheels installed on your Honda Accord. I recently had a new set put on, and figured maybe others had some more stories.

    About 2 and a half months ago, I replaced the tires on my car. It had a set of Michelin Weatherwise Sport MT 185/70R14's on it, with about 42k miles on the set. They handled good on dry roads and in snow, but were horrible in wet conditions. It would spin the tires at the least provokation of the throttle, and would not grip well at all. I replaced them with probably the most expensive tire I could find. I put on a set of Goodyear Assurance TripleTreds. They are miracle workers!! It makes my car handle even better than it did before. It is amazing in the rain. Haven't got a chance for much snow, about 3 days after I had them, we got a half inch, and they did great in it. This winter will really prove their worth. I will have a 40 mile commute to college regardless of weather, so they will have to be good. If anyone else has these tires, tell me about your experience. I just love talkin about my car.
  • elroy5elroy5 Member Posts: 3,735
    The stock Michelin tires (energy mxv4) are great tires for smooth ride and fuel economy, because they are light-weight. I have found that these tires are prone to road hazard damage though (not very sturdy), and are not good for wet roads. After reading reviews and survey results on tirerack.com I decided to try Bridgestone Turanza LS-V tires. They ride just as well as the Michelins, are actually quieter (especially on expansion joints) and the wet traction is great. They are slightly heavier, and have a slightly larger diameter (maybe the larger diameter will make the odometer closer to reality), so my mileage has gone down a couple of mpg, but I feel more confident that the tire will hold up, and give me better traction on wet roads (when traction is needed most IMO). And the bonus is they cost a little less than the Michelin's do.
  • blufz1blufz1 Member Posts: 2,045
    Maybe it's not the tires. Maybe your spoiler is out of adjustment! :) Fyi I also lost 1-1.5 mpg with my goodyear comfort treads. They don't handle but are very smooth,quiet,comfortable,and cheap w/80K warranty. Have a good holiday.
  • elroy5elroy5 Member Posts: 3,735
    They don't handle but are very smooth,quiet,comfortable,and cheap w/80K warranty.

    As long as you got what "you" wanted, it's all good. :D My spoiler is adjusted for maximum mileage. :P
  • lilengineerboylilengineerboy Member Posts: 4,116
    I can't believe how well my Kumhos ASXs have served me this winter and spring. They exhibited great snow traction, very stable in rain, and man, they are actually kinda fun on dry roads. That cloverleaf offramp on my way home from work is a lot of fun. Better still, these guys were $33/tire in a 195/60VR15. Good times.
  • elroy5elroy5 Member Posts: 3,735
    Checked out the test/survey results on the Kumho ASXs, and was impressed. The tread wear warranty was not very good (30,000 miles), but at that price, you can afford to buy them more often. :D They would be a consideration for my next tire, but unfortunately they don't come in my size (205/60/16). Not sure I would have gone with a high-performance tire in any case though.
  • lilengineerboylilengineerboy Member Posts: 4,116
    Yeah, I definitely lean towards performance components whenever possible. The Kumhos really woke the car up after the MXV4s. I was concerned it would come with a penalty in fuel economy, but now that summer gas is back, my typical 30s mpg has returned.
  • andysdandysd Member Posts: 87
    Funny, it's a wheel & tire forum, but your comment about the outside temp caught my eye. I just got an '07 Accord SE and would love to add an outside temp readout. Do you mean a Honda dealer can install an OEM temp instrument in a car that doesn't have one, for a reasonable price? Info appreciated.

    (Now I have to get back to wheels. I traded my '04 Civic EX for the Accord, and am stuck with 4-17" silver Kosei Racing wheels and almost new 215 Kumho SPT tires, San Diego area.)

    Andy

    :shades:
  • tallman1tallman1 Member Posts: 1,874
    Do you mean a Honda dealer can install an OEM temp instrument in a car that doesn't have one, for a reasonable price? Info appreciated.

    Someone posted about installing one himself (in the correct thread, I'm sure!) More info (including install instructions) is here: H&A Accessories (Scroll down on the page.)
  • dudleyrdudleyr Member Posts: 3,469
    I bought mine from H&A. It takes a little time to install (it helped having an 11 year old around - to reach in some places) but is fairly straight forward. It works just like OEM (since it is) and shows up where the odometer is.

    The dealer may charge a Benjamin or two to put it in.
  • chrisxxxchrisxxx Member Posts: 18
    Hi,
    A very kind blufz1 recommended Goodyear Assurance Comfort Tread tires for the 2007 EX. (looking for quieter, smoother ride with good snow traction)
    I like to stick with a certain tire dealer here in town and they do not carry Goodyear (but can order them).
    They recommended Toyo Eclipse as their on-site equivilant.
    Anyone have experience with this tire? If I go with the Toyo about $150.00 less overall and guaranteed replacement if the original is unfixable.
    Thank-you!
    Chris
  • blackexv6blackexv6 Member Posts: 503
    Sorry to hear you are unhappy with the road noise of your Accord. This is a common complaint with Hondas. Your car is brand new...why are you buying new tires already?

    I replaced my OEM Michelin MXV4's with Toyo Proxes TPT and the road noise was worse.

    You will most likely conclude the road noise is due to a lack of sound deadening insulation. Some people have mentally convinced themselves that the tires are the source of Honda's road noise issues.
  • elroy5elroy5 Member Posts: 3,735
    Check out the surveys and tests on tirerack.com. Punch in your car, and pick the tires that suit your needs. I would not settle for whatever the tire salesman is pushing that day. There are quieter tires out there, just not Toyo Proxies.
  • dudleyrdudleyr Member Posts: 3,469
    Consumer reports tests tires and reports the noise. Tirerack consumer data is hard to compare between brands and accross types.
  • chrisxxxchrisxxx Member Posts: 18
    Toyo Eclipse not Proxies.

    Proxy is not supposed to be a quiet tire it is a high performance tire or such, but Eclipse is supposed to be for quieter ride. (like goodyear comforttreads)
    Anyway, there is a 30 day trial period no questions asked and they will credit me for the Michelins too so I will give em a try.

    Its strange because I owned an '88 Accord for 18 years and did not notice excessive road noise. Is the road noise worse on newer Hondas or am I just imagining it?

    I will let u know how they ride.

    Thanks for the help!
    Chris
  • elroy5elroy5 Member Posts: 3,735
    Anyway, there is a 30 day trial period no questions asked and they will credit me for the Michelins too so I will give em a try.

    That sounds great! Go for it. Sounds like a can't loose.

    I don't know how quiet an 88 Accord is, but my 03 Accord is much quieter than my old 92 was. I find it hard to believe an 88 is quieter than the current models. Sure you don't have an air leak somewhere causing this excessive noise?
  • chrisxxxchrisxxx Member Posts: 18
    Hi,
    I know I know.....maybe because I was younger I didn't notice the road noise and was so used to the car after 17 years.....lol....The ride was not as stiff either, but I gather Honda made the ride stiffer in the 2000's for performance.

    I hate to say it because I love my Hondas, but I also own a 2007 Highlander and it is so quiet and smooth that maybe I notice the noise and stiff ride more on the Honda now. I know the Highlander is known for exceptional ride and of course the handling suffers because of it.

    I know its just the road noise that others have noted and nothing unusual on mine. We have alot of rough roads and rough highway pavement so you know what that is like.

    We shall see if a fancy tire makes any difference!

    Chris
  • elroy5elroy5 Member Posts: 3,735
    We shall see if a fancy tire makes any difference!

    Tires will not perform miricals, but I'm sure some improvement can be obtained by the right tires. Good luck
  • chrisxxxchrisxxx Member Posts: 18
    OK,
    I had the Toyo Eclipse put on this morning. They are made for quiet and comfortable ride, all season and 70,000 mile wear rated.
    So far this is difference noted:

    Before - ride harsh and jittery on broken and cracked pavement. Cornering felt slippy and manhole covers were loud and painful at times. Noise was irritating on broken roads and expansion joints. :(

    After- ride much smoother, no jitters, no harshness noted on broken up road to my home. Noise level noticeably reduced in the background and not irritating over expansion joints. Cornering great. Did not notice manhole covers like used to. Handling very nice and grippy even braking and quick acceleration is smoother. :)
    I have not gone on the concrete freeway yet. Will update you on that one...Noise was extreme on broken concrete freeway! MPG averaged 28-30 city/highway mixed will see if comfort tires make it go down.
    Conclusion-Toyo Eclipse was definitely worth it for me. Tires are made for quiet and smooth riding. I rcvd $100.00 credit for hated Michelins so price came to about $350.00 with mounting and balancing.
    I was almost thinking that my new Accord wasn't right for me and now the issues that were really bugging me are gone.
    Miracle? For me it made all the difference so far.

    Regarding suspension. The tire dealer I went to also specializes in suspension work and I questioned about softening the suspension if needed. I was told that the performance suspension in the Accord is a high quality performance orientated one and the higher the quality the suspension the more you will feel the road. Cant be changed with shocks or anything like that.
    They recommended keeping comfort tires on and rotating/balancing every 3-5000 miles for maximum wear and comfort and quietness. Free life time balancing, rotating and warranty.
    (Also, both times I purchased new Hondas in last few years the tires were extremey overinflated and unbalanced, Honda and the dealers are not doing themselves favors by putting noisy harsh overinflated tires on their vehicles)
    I feel relieved!
    Smiles,
    Chris :shades:
  • elroy5elroy5 Member Posts: 3,735
    That's great, Chris. Glad you are more comfortable with your Accord's ride. Happy Hondaing. :D
  • ralph9ralph9 Member Posts: 88
    I am looking to purchase a 2007 Accord EX I-4 in the near future, but I'm concerned about the poor rating on tirerack's site for the Michelin MXV in snow, ice and wet conditions. My idea would be to replace these tires at the time of purchase, getting a credit from the dealer which should defray much of the cost of the different tires.
    Based on tirerack's survey ratings, a comperable Grand Touring tire with the same "V" speed rating, but much better performance in bad weather conditions, would be the Goodyear Eagle Response Edge. They also retail about $57 less per tire.
    If there is no harm to the vehicle or it's performance by going to a Passenger All_Season tire with a "H" sppeed rating, then I would consider the Goodyear Assurance Triple Tred tire which I also put on my 2005 Pilot.
    Has anyone ever swapped out tires on an initial purchase, or replaced Grand Touring V tires with Passenger
    All-Season H rated tires?
    Any experiences/ideas will be appreciated. I am a bit paranoid about tires that perform badly in poor weather since the OE tires on the Pilot almost did me in.
    Thanks to anyone who has some suggestions. Ralph
  • blufz1blufz1 Member Posts: 2,045
    I think my comfort treads were a lower speed designation than the oems but I'm not goin' 100 anyway. FYI Discount Tire told me a trade in of new MXV4's would be a $200 credit.
  • elroy5elroy5 Member Posts: 3,735
    H rated tires will do fine, unless you plan on driving over 130mph. The stock Michelins are great for gas mileage, but not good at all for wet conditions (and from my experience not durable). I want my tires to be at their best, when conditions are the worst. I bought some Bridgestone Turanza LS tires, and they are well worth the 3mpg they give up for much better wet performance.
  • cusafrcusafr Member Posts: 184
    Ralph: I just replaced my tires on my new 6-cyl. at Discount Tire. I got the Goodyear Assurance Triple Tred tires with the H-Rating. They gave me $300 for the Michelin tires on the car. I did have to purchase their warranty etc, but the trade difference was about $325-$350 (I forget exactly) for everything. Well worth it to me!

    cusafr
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