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carlady/host
I know Accent is a good nice car, and I want to sell it to good people. Sometimes they ask: Why do you get rid of this car, what's wrong with it?
I don't know why they ask this question, but my answer it: NOTHING WRONG, it is a great hatchback.
Perfect for driving, and acceleration is very good (always ahead of other cars and SUVs!). Anyway, if someone is interested to get a used good Accent, visit my site: www.webideas.com/car.
Cheers!
Too bad this thing doesn't also have a grammar check for Billys.
If you think English is the only language in the world, think again.
Thanks for the compliment! I like your description of his use of the English language!! At least I'm not the only one who saw it!
carlady/host
emmett1: I skip 2/3 of your remarks about YOUR savage abuse (well again, think thrice then if you think English is the only language people speak and learn). Regarding Hyundais: If it is cheap and acceptable transportation plus it has a good warranty - what's wrong with it? Also Accent is the same class as Honda Civic, but costs $4,000 less, and there is no difference in comfort and driving these cars (recent Hyundai design is much better than Civic). Your point: ... well, it's cheap transporation... well, it has a nice extended warranty... but I drive a car that costs twice more and has no warranty..., well, that's why Hyundai is not good enough. Have a nice day too!
I think they're crap and would never buy one. Cheap, yes. But unreliable, definitely. You get what you pay for. If you don't pay much, then you don't get much. Resale value is horrible as well.
And no need to play innocent with Carlady. You were the first one with a nasty remark to me. All I did was point out that I thought all the postings came from the same person. The reason behind my conclusion was the poor use of grammar that was found in all the posts.
my $0.02
And try to remember what happens when you "assume" something.
Personally, I don't agree with pam2 completely. Some people love Hyundais. I won't call them crap, because many people feel that my dream car, a Ford Taurus/Mercury Sable, is a crappy car. To each their own.
> Anyone with half a brain knows
> that Hyundais are crap.
LOL! Now I know that happens if the other half of a brain is removed or damaged! Well, it's a good argument for defense, but it does not prove that Hyundais are crap.
to #19:
As other fellow mentioned, there were problems with Hyundai Excel, which Hyundai has stopped manufacturing back in 1994. I personally have not heard of any problems with Accents, for example, and I know people who drove 150,000 miles on them without a problem.
Zach, weren't you defending the domestics brands (i.e. Ford Taurus/Mercury Sable) when Honda lovers considered them to be some sort of rubbish? Those Honda lovers trash talked the Taurus because they had bad experience with them in the past. And many have said that domestic brands have come a long way and that it wasn't fair to judge a make entirely based on its long past history. That was a good point. But the principle should apply universally, not just to Ford or Mercury. I understand the source of your reservations regarding Hyundais. I hope you limit your negative inclination to just Hyundais with which you have experience, and not to all Korean, Yugo, and other emerging market products in general. I am sure you will appreciate Honda lovers or others who won't disparage Ford cars in connection with their bad experience with Chrysler products.
BTW, this is just my humble opinion. No ill will intended.
You're right! I think I was just in a bad mood when I posted that origional post. My experience was in a Scoupe. I don't think Hyundai even makes those anymore.
Everybody,
No matter what other people think, just buy what makes you happy, and fulfills your needs. That is what is truly important!
carlady/host
Often objective analysis is confused with various moral proclivities: just because you had a bad experience with a brand 5yrs ago doesn't mean the same is true now ("people can change, you know?"); and once a thief, always a thief!
Reliability data from CAA and CR both indicate that Hyundai has made a significant improvement, if you look at data for automobiles of the same #years old in all cases. Whether that makes them of equal or lesser value to domestics or the Big3 Japanese (Honda,Toyota,Nissan) is a tough call. But the FACT that it's a tough call is itself an encouraging sign.
Waxing poetic,
Rick D.
I'm not trying to pick a fight here, but I think we should reserve postings for "relevant" opinions and information.
Alternator ($400)
Front struts ($450)
Front brake rotors and pads, twice ($200; second time was covered under warranty, first wasn't)
Front and rear wheel bearings ($400)
Car speaker ($70 for one in the front)
Timing Belt ($250)
Oxygen sensor ($200)
Rear drums and 1 wheel cylinder (warranty covered)
This is in addition to $3,000 of preventative maintenance.
In a nutshell, I think the Accent is a cheap car but repair costs are quite high if you intend to drive it many miles. Also, it is NOT for highways if you have the automatic.
I bought a 1999 Accent GSi in February 1999 from a new dealership in Colombia, Connecticut. The car and dealership have been a nightmare. There is a LOUD screaming noise present on moderate acceleration which Hyundai and the dealership claim to be a "design defect" caused by the exhaust system -- Hyundai's " Tech Line" has working on a "fix" for months but, to date, haven,t been able to fix it. In addition there is a host of other problems with the car. The AC doesn't work, there's a slow leak from one of the tires or alloy rims that they can't seem to fix, the seat belts won't recoil and get caught in the door, the radio is just about useless, the 100 Watt stero system stinks, speakers rattle etc.. The car's ergonomics are designed either to frustrate the driver or cause an accident. One more thing....the much touted 24 hour roadside Assistance.... they didn't come when I called for help....... Bad Car - idiots in the service department and I'm out $13,500!!! I'm going to make some "lemon signs" and alert others to this piece of crap ...."Driving Is Believing"....Right!!!!
93 Elantra: good car, traded it in at about 75,000 with no problems for a 95 Elantra
95 Elantra: we owned 2 of these......one with 55,000 miles and one with 70,000 miles with no problems
97 Elantra: once again, we owned 2 of these......the one we still have has over 35000 miles.......the other one a family member was speeding down a winding road at almost 100 mph....the car crumpled in all the right spots...he walked away with a few scratches....now that is what i call a great car.
97 Accent: this is my car...33,000 miles.......and like every car, no problems yet.
i doubt these are just luck.....recent Hyundai cars are more reliable then most other cars out there. After that accident we bought a Kia Sephia to replace the Elantra......the Sephia is complete garbage.....horrendous build quality....the parking brake is shot, the drivers door has a fickle lock, and it sounds like the engine has serious ping....the car doesnt even has 20k miles on it. Hyundais are also more reliable than the Fords we have owned......you want to talk about bad cars....visit a Ford dealer. Good job Hyundai.
Ultimately, this goes to show how important initial releases of a vehicle are as opposed to releasing crap and attempting to cover up for it later. Most car companies won't be in the game long enough to cover their mistakes.
Alternator ($400) - This is about double what it should have cost you. A good Accent alternator runs $86.99 at NAPA. Labor..maybe 2 hours @ $50/hr, you shouldn't have paid more than $200.
Front struts ($450) - These struts are $40-$50 apiece at most parts houses and are not difficult to change out.
Front brake rotors and pads, twice ($200; second time was covered under warranty, first wasn't) - $200 for one axle is overpayment. You should've got both axles (all 4 wheels) done for $200.
Front and rear wheel bearings ($400) - You either drive hard or your mechanic has a serious profit motive. Bearings these days are designed for 250K-plus. And they shouldn't have cost that much anyhow.
Car speaker ($70 for one in the front) - I suppose that's OK but you could have changed it yourself in 30 minutes for $30 or less depending on the cost of your speaker.
Timing Belt ($250) - Again somebody is either charging you $100/hr labor or something.
Oxygen sensor ($200) - an oxygen sensor is the size of a spark plug and is right up front easy to reach. The most expensive O2 sensor I have ever bought was $46 for my mother's Celica. I changed it in 2 minutes while the car was cool before she went to work in the morning.
I want the name of your mechanic so I can buy stock in the company. He sure is making a lot of money!
How was my gramma Pam2.
i personally owned 2 hyundai's. I think the first was an old 88 or 89 excel..
after 4 yrs i sold it and probobally recieved around 1k for the trade in.. that was pretty poor considering that the car was used rarely. Most of the time the car was in the shop for great amounts of time. Then when i traded that car in, i bought a 92 elantra gls. it was an ok decision.. The car was a little better than before. the reliability was still a problem
i still own the 8 yr old hyundai. it went through 2 transmission. on its third right now.. its windshield wiper mechanism broke. the abs broke. The rear defogger isnt working.. and i am just gonna send it to the junk heap... i just recently bought a honda crv which has been a pretty good choice for me... i think that the hyundai's of today may be better ( not sure) but back then the car was crap...
well the 10 yr warranty is pretty good. just make sure u have a backup care in case the hyundai is in the shop for tooo long...
i aint condemning the car.. but that was my 2 cents
when Hyundai was making Mitsubishi Motors under license for their cars they were much less reliable then the same motors which were made by Mitsubishi. my father had a Dodge Colt which had the 1.5 and it was bulletproof. DONT BUY HYUNDAI
carlady/host
As you may know, copying from your source verbatim can be a copyright violation so please, just link directly to the information.
In the meantime, here's a quote from our review on the Hyundai Accent GS:
"Hyundai is on a mission to reinvent itself in the minds of the American car-buying public. After a rocky period in the early '90s that had people saying, "Hyundais sure are inexpensive...and you get what you pay for," the company has unleashed several winners in a row."
carlady/host
I personally would never buy Ford again. But that doesn't mean I'll go to the Focus topic and tell everyone that Fords are junk.
Get a life and stay in the Ford Focus forum please.
Anyway, I have two friends who drive the 96 Elantra (popular) with i believe a V6. Now neither of these cars has over 70k and they both burn oil. Cheap piston rings I assume? That shows alot for the quality, and from what they tell me these cars are falling apart.
Thats where I get my opinions from, real use. You cant belive what any magazine says because they dotn test a car over the long haul, rather a short and superficial test that caters only to the "style minded". How can you tell reliability if you dont drive the car for more than 5 years or 50,000 miles?? You cant! Just because they make a car look like quality, dont mean it is. Its the real world test that shows a car;'s durability, and I think I have been proven right.