talk about hyundai

hyun

Ithink hyundai do the best cars in the world for
price

mzn

Are you speaking of the Accent hatchback model?

carlady/host

ACCENT

After own a 95 Sonata GLS-V6, with no problems, and know owning a 98 Sonata GLS-V6, with no problems. I think Hyundai has come a long way since the first Excel's, Sonata's, and Elantra's.

billys

We have a great time with our Accent Hatchback - we own it for 3 years, drove 40,000 miles and did not have a single problem. Especially I like the gas mileage - we drove from PA to FL and spent only $80 on gas! Just for references, AmTrak ticket to Florida costs $299 for one person.

I know Accent is a good nice car, and I want to sell it to good people. Sometimes they ask: Why do you get rid of this car, what's wrong with it?
I don't know why they ask this question, but my answer it: NOTHING WRONG, it is a great hatchback.
Perfect for driving, and acceleration is very good (always ahead of other cars and SUVs!). Anyway, if someone is interested to get a used good Accent, visit my site: www.webideas.com/car.

Cheers!

pam2

I think hyun, billys, and ACCENT are all the same person. Maybe trying to use Edmunds to sell a Hyundai??? Not nice trying to fool us!

billys

pam2 - what is YOUR problem? Are you here to complain about everything? I checked your messages on the board and have not find anything related to automobiles. Are you trying just to spend time on the Net? Get a life!

pam2

LOL!!!

zacharylaurie

This posting was good for a laugh! Not much in the way of info though. Good luck Hyundai owners. From what I've heard of Hyundais, you'll need it.

billys

I suspect that (s)pam2 and zhacharylaurie is just one person. You better laugh when you have nothing to say

pam2

I don't see you denying anything. I guess that makes me right.

Too bad this thing doesn't also have a grammar check for Billys.

billys

Sure, you are right (hope you feel better now). I wrote all messages on Edmunds boards, including message #9 in this topic.

If you think English is the only language in the world, think again.

emmett1

Not only is English not the only language in the world( a VERY astute observation on your part), it's also not a language written by you. It was easy to see all of the postings were by the same person, due to the savage abuse given the written word in every one. The same grammatical mistakes were in every posting.....Good job Pam. Hyundais are what they claim to be....cheap transportation with an extended warranty. The warranty isn't much of a selling point if the biggest claim to fane is that you'll always use it. Have a nice day

pam2

Emmett,

Thanks for the compliment! I like your description of his use of the English language!! At least I'm not the only one who saw it!

mzn

Surely the Town Hall is not the place for savage abuse, grammatical or otherwise! :-) Let's talk about cars and not one another.

carlady/host

billys

carlady: I agree with you, that's what I was trying to point out in posting #5. I have not heard an opinion on Hyundais from somebody with the name pam2, except remarks about spelling and grammar.

emmett1: I skip 2/3 of your remarks about YOUR savage abuse (well again, think thrice then if you think English is the only language people speak and learn). Regarding Hyundais: If it is cheap and acceptable transportation plus it has a good warranty - what's wrong with it? Also Accent is the same class as Honda Civic, but costs $4,000 less, and there is no difference in comfort and driving these cars (recent Hyundai design is much better than Civic). Your point: ... well, it's cheap transporation... well, it has a nice extended warranty... but I drive a car that costs twice more and has no warranty..., well, that's why Hyundai is not good enough. Have a nice day too!

pam2

OK, Billys, here's my comments about Hyundais.

I think they're crap and would never buy one. Cheap, yes. But unreliable, definitely. You get what you pay for. If you don't pay much, then you don't get much. Resale value is horrible as well.

And no need to play innocent with Carlady. You were the first one with a nasty remark to me. All I did was point out that I thought all the postings came from the same person. The reason behind my conclusion was the poor use of grammar that was found in all the posts.

Matty98

Hyundai is one of the fastest growing car companies, and with their recently redesigned Sonata, they now meet the quality standards of honda and toyota, (they said so themselves), i have a 98 ACCENT GSi and i am trading it in For a Tiburon FX this summer,
my $0.02

billys

pam2, I respect you opinion even if you don't have one. I did not force you to say anything about Hyundais, it would not be good comment anyway. Since you have not driven it (I assume from your comments), you can't say if it's good or bad. Check out comments about Hyundais from other people on this forum and you'll see that you are alone. Also, you are not a good detective, pam2. If I would try to simulate responses from other people, you would not even notice that. And thank you for spotting a poor use of grammar - you really get excited about that.

pam2

Alone??? Hardly! Anyone with half a brain knows that Hyundais are crap. Try taking off your blinders and have a look around.

And try to remember what happens when you "assume" something.

zacharylaurie

Actually, I'm not pam2. I have no idea who she is. Unless she is an 18 year old male who attends Miami University in Oxford, Oh, she is not me. Maybe Hyundai has come a long way in reliability, but I have had many bad experiences with Hyundais. I'm buying a car this week over spring break, and because of my past experiences, I will not buy a Hyundai. The new ones may be very reliable, but the older ones are not (generally, there may be exceptions.)

Personally, I don't agree with pam2 completely. Some people love Hyundais. I won't call them crap, because many people feel that my dream car, a Ford Taurus/Mercury Sable, is a crappy car. To each their own.

billys

to #18:

> Anyone with half a brain knows
> that Hyundais are crap.
LOL! Now I know that happens if the other half of a brain is removed or damaged! Well, it's a good argument for defense, but it does not prove that Hyundais are crap.

to #19:
As other fellow mentioned, there were problems with Hyundai Excel, which Hyundai has stopped manufacturing back in 1994. I personally have not heard of any problems with Accents, for example, and I know people who drove 150,000 miles on them without a problem.

bo_chung

I'll submit my two cents on the matter. I've owned a '89 Hyundai Sonata (I think it was the first Sonata offering in US). I've had problems with it, nothing too serious (no engine or powertrain failures). But they were annoying enought that I decided not to buy one for the next 10 years. I've not recommended it to any of my friends during same period. Recently however, I've had some indirect experiences with some of the newer models and have come to forgive Hyundai for their previous sins. 10 years is a long time and a lot can change in a decade. I don't believe that Hyundai could have survived this long without making some improvements somewhere. I actually think that its unwise to not consider a particular make just because you had a bad experience a long long time ago. I've had even more problems with my '92 Saab but bought another one after 6 years and haven't had a single problem with it so far. Hyundai's quality may still lag the likes of Hondas and Toyotas but the gap is far narrower than it was during the 80s. But the gap in price difference is still as wide as it was back then. This makes for a descent compromise, I think. 10 year warranty is a nice bonus on top of it.

Zach, weren't you defending the domestics brands (i.e. Ford Taurus/Mercury Sable) when Honda lovers considered them to be some sort of rubbish? Those Honda lovers trash talked the Taurus because they had bad experience with them in the past. And many have said that domestic brands have come a long way and that it wasn't fair to judge a make entirely based on its long past history. That was a good point. But the principle should apply universally, not just to Ford or Mercury. I understand the source of your reservations regarding Hyundais. I hope you limit your negative inclination to just Hyundais with which you have experience, and not to all Korean, Yugo, and other emerging market products in general. I am sure you will appreciate Honda lovers or others who won't disparage Ford cars in connection with their bad experience with Chrysler products.

BTW, this is just my humble opinion. No ill will intended.

zacharylaurie

bo_chung,

You're right! I think I was just in a bad mood when I posted that origional post. My experience was in a Scoupe. I don't think Hyundai even makes those anymore.

Everybody,
No matter what other people think, just buy what makes you happy, and fulfills your needs. That is what is truly important!

mzn

Amen!

carlady/host

rdeschene

bo_chung, car lady, et al.

Often objective analysis is confused with various moral proclivities: just because you had a bad experience with a brand 5yrs ago doesn't mean the same is true now ("people can change, you know?"); and once a thief, always a thief!

Reliability data from CAA and CR both indicate that Hyundai has made a significant improvement, if you look at data for automobiles of the same #years old in all cases. Whether that makes them of equal or lesser value to domestics or the Big3 Japanese (Honda,Toyota,Nissan) is a tough call. But the FACT that it's a tough call is itself an encouraging sign.

Waxing poetic,
Rick D.

EIREANN

anyone own an accent L .....its gunna be my first new car ..i drive a jeep renegade now ....just wondering if anyone has any "relevant" comments to make on the L ....;-)thanks

pam2

Can you define "gunna" first?

billys

Think hard, pam. This is definitely not for 1/2-brainers.

pam2

Perhaps the correct spelling would help me? Or maybe I should brush up on my "alternate English".

dicie

I am as frustrated as the next literate person when I see misuse of grammar and incorrect spelling used in any written form. Believe me, it irks me to no end (I corrected all the errors in classmates' scribble in my yearbook from high school). However, I don't see how pointing out every little misuse, misspelling or incorrect use of slang is going to convince anyone of your argument. It shows that you enjoy picking on foreigners and less educated people over "your" language... and that isn't why we chat in this forum, or is it?

I'm not trying to pick a fight here, but I think we should reserve postings for "relevant" opinions and information.

rdeschene

Thanks dicie. I work in an environment where our production documents are, literally, legal records. Nevertheless, that's there and this is here. I want to learn from other people's experiences and, hopefully, them to learn from mine as well. I do have a personal preference from things being class-free and not "cliquey". Long live the Net and cheap P.C.'s :-)