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I see when you click on the little ? mark it says it deletes the HD radio however in the main description it also says "Getting from point A to point B just got easier and more fun with the nav system with high resolution touch-screen display, HD radio technology and Infinity preimium speakers with a subwoofer and external amplifier."
I'm not the argumentative type, and can only speak to what I've read - see my post from several messages ago...Clearly there is some contradicting informaton regarding this topic. Perhaps in the very near future, nav units with HD will start showing up on lots.
I have 2 dealers I'm working with. Both have the silver with grey. Hopefully they can find the silver with black. Hopefully I'm driving home in my new car today.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xecGb6P0kro&feature=related
It seems like even the Limited has a much firmer ride than the 2010 Sonata, or am I wrong in that assumption?
I do realize this was a rough stretch of roadway, but the video makes it seem as if there's very little absorption of the rough stuff.
Thanks for any input.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xecGb6P0kro&feature=related
It seems like even the Limited has a much firmer ride than the 2010 Sonata, or am I wrong in that assumption?
I do realize this was a rough stretch of roadway, but the video makes it seem as if there's very little absorption of the rough stuff.
Thanks for any input.
I POSTED THE ABOVE BUT WANTED TO ADD:
I'm really not trying to sound too critical, but aside from what seems like a very firm suspension, does anyone else think that the road noise in the video (a limited) is excessive?
I've checked out driving videos of the Chevy Malibu, Ford Fusion and Camry, and they all seemed much, much quieter than the Sonata?
Am I mistaken? Anyone?
I haven't driven those other models this year, so don't really have great comparisons to offer. But will say -- After 2 weeks and quite a few miles, the Limited's ride seems nice and quiet to me, espeically when cruising. And I'm very pleased with the handling. (I did test drive an SE, but for my tastes, the tradeoffs in the Limited were better suited to me.) I've been absoutely loving the Limited thus far. (including the Bluetooth/USB/HD audio -- great stuff)
Ultimately you'll of course just have to drive one for yourself -- but I really don't think roadnoise will stop anyone from buying the Sonata. Seems quiet.
Not sure why the board moderator isn't doing enough to stop this con-artist & obvious hater from posting on this board? Disappointing indeed.
He never posts anything there but links to negative reviews and thinly veiled shots at their newest models, usually concerning suspensions or road noise.
I will say that my Limited edition has a pretty sporty ride (and I like it). My old 2006 Sonata had a smoother ride, but I felt less in control of the car, than I do with my new one. Your preference for this is going to inherently be personal, so you'll probably need to drive one again to gauge how comfortable you are with it.
Overall, I refuse to purchase domestic brand vehicles, so it's easy to eliminate the Chevys and Fords. I don't know enough about Toyota, but as for Honda, the Accord doesn't include enough features for the price, and its styling also looks significantly less sporty. I'm not here to convince you to buy a Sonata, but I'm pretty sure you'd enjoy one if you got it!
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Of course if he is in the market to buy new car soon and 2011 Sonata is on his list, he should concern about all negative facts as well. But I don't think this is the case.
I'm not saying it's not a good camera, a good mount, or whatever, I'm just saying that it's not a shock-mounted studio microphone that can be expected to provide perfect accuracy. Between the normal hiss of a standard camera condenser mic and the vibration of a car on the road (which is certainly not unique to the Sonata, nor is it a bad thing; it keeps you feeling connected to the road, not floating above it) traveling through a multi-joint articulating camera mount, you're bound to have some hiss, rattle and thump that has nothing to do with how quiet the car is to the driver's ear.
Personally, what I noticed the most is how much I like the blue accents (especially on the steering wheel), the impressively small turning radius and the smooth engine note even during quick acceleration - probably the smoothest I've heard in a 4-cylinder, definitely head and shoulders above my girlfriend's 2006 Corolla... not that that's too surprising... :P
Moderator should ban him because he doesn't like the Sonata or maybe even Hyundai. On the other hand, should the hosts ban others that think everything is super about a car just because they bought it. How childish. If you are so insecure about your car buying choice that you can't stand someone being critical than maybe this forum is just too stressful for you to handle.
None of these forums about individual cars are meant to be for just owners. It would be pretty boring if it was. So for all of you that get upset when someone says they don't like something about the new Sonata, I say get a life. If you don't like someone's post it's really quite easy......don't read it. If a poster gets totally out of hand with slander or calling names or something like that the hosts will step in and delete their posts. Remember there are thousands people that read these forums and don't post at all. They want to see all sides and they can look at the comments that are hateful or so biased in favor of the car that they sift them out.
I've found after spending a lot of time on these forums that if you don't respond to a particular person they go away eventually.
As far as the noise level in pcgeek's Limited video. Who drives with some kind of music, talk or conversation. Very few people would be my guess. I have an Infiniti SUV which is very quiet on the freeway but if I turned the radio off and recorded the road noise it would probably sound very similar to what you heard on the video. That looked like one rough road and I live in the Chicago area which is not known for it's smooth roads.
However, it begins to look suspicious when all you do is post negative information and bad reviews.
This individual's post content is identical to that of a poster on the Hyundai boards. The totality of his 30-some-odd posts were about poor suspension and road noise on the Azera, Genesis and now the new Sonata, or links to reviews where he characterized mild criticism of the vehicle to "getting slammed."
Discussion should generally be a 2-way-street. One of the exceptions to that would be if you were an owner and thought you bought a lemon, but that's not the case here.
I just wanted to let everyone know what the repair estimate on the car is. They determined that the front end damage was very minor only requiring the replacement of the bumper and the padding behind it. The majority of the costs will be from the air bag deployment. The totol is $7,611. Now the problem is to get the parts in. I really miss my car. I miss the stereo most of all.
You know what? Anybody with a brain can see that he is just trying to stir up trouble so just ignore him. So it's suspicious. Who cares? I used to know someone that would always take the opposite view just for something to do and stir up controversary. He was a very lonely person cause people started to ignore him as they tired of his junk.
He will either interface intelligently or go on to other forums where he can get people excited.
Also, I'm glad you noticed the small turning radius. It does, in fact, have a very small turning radius, and is one of the first things I noticed when I test drove the car, the day I bought it. Relative to my old 2006 Sonata, it's got very nice, tight steering, and as I've said before, I feel very much in "control" of the vehicle.
The blue accents (tastefully combined with white) are really sweet! I love the interior design of the car. Unlike many other vehicles, with less features / options, it has a tastefully complex dashboard, and plenty of buttons and other controls to keep you occupied
To anyone curious: The purpose of my videos is to show you what the car looks like while driving (as well as my own enjoyment from shooting & editing them). This is in NO WAY meant to emulate what you will actually FEEL when you are in the vehicle.
The videos were shot with a consumer-grade camera, using its built-in microphone. Again, the camera mount has zero shock absorption. Even if it did have shock absorption, it still would be a terrible way to gauge what the car actually feels like when you're in it.
Cheers,
Trevor
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YcmFW6OIBmE
You'll see the entire highway experience, including merging into traffic. Someone has commented that the angle of the video doesn't show the gauges very well, so I apologize for that in advance. It's hard to work with the camera mount that I have, because it only mounts to glass surfaces. Also, my camera does not have a very wide angle, so it's hard to get a lot in the view.
Cheers,
Trevor
Thanks,
Joe
As an aside, if you want to have some fun with your insurance agent, try this. Call them up and complain about how when you bought your car the car was worth say $30K. Now that it's 3 years old it's only worth $14K. But for some reason your insurance really hasn't gone down in those 3 years. They will go on to explain how the value of your car has very little to do with your actual rates. That's when you tell them, "That's great to hear since I just bought a new car, I assume my rates won't go up since the value of the car has almost nothing to do with the rates." The stammering you hear on the other end of the line is priceless.
I appreciate all the videos you have posted, and I now understand better than ever that the new Sonata trades of some ride comfort in exchange for better handling.
Thanks again.
I should have tried your little trick when I called them up! LOLOL!!!! I bet they would have been like "uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh ......"
-Trevor
I should have tried your little trick when I called them up! LOLOL!!!! I bet they would have been like "uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh ......"
Not really a trick since I doubt it has anything to do with the final rate. But it sure is fun to listen to them hem and haw.
While my wife's Elantra was purchased in Schaumburg, we've used both Pugi & Gartner for service with decent results. I don't know how well they fare for the sales experience, but I didn't have any problems dealing with Gartner when I test-drove a Santa Fe last summer.
Thanks for the new videos on the highway. I like the idea of some driving videos, but I watched this and was cringing at how much noise and vibration is amplified by the camera/mount. I wonder is posting these on here and Youtube is going to give lots of people the wrong impression about the car. I know we both love out Sonatas and would not want others crossing them off their consideration lists based on the ride portrayed in the videos. In reality, it is a very smooth and quiet car, the camera is like sticking a stethoscope along the wheel well or something.
This makes me think it's never going to be included with the nav/Infinity system.