2011 Hyundai Sonata

ryster

The oscillating thrumming noise is always present, just louder at higher speeds. The tires are getting rotated this morning. It will be interesting to see if the thrumming moves up front or stays in the back.

The tire noise itself does vary depending on road surface. Fresh asphalt there is very muted tire noise. Old asphalt, concrete, or grated surfaces the tires are super noisy.

nelson1

Follow up on my previous msg. on my noisy tires. On May8, I went to Discount Tire, for them to check my Kumho tires. I have almost 1200 miles now. "They asked me if I felt any vibration or pulling. I said no. Then they said, well, its probably the rated B, which is hard compound in the tread that is causing the noise. They did no checking at all. Then, I went to Texan Hyundai, my dealer. They test drove my car, and came back, and said, yes, we hear some noise, but it is not excessisve, just normal. So, I guess I will live with the noise, until I trade this sucker off, or have different tires put on. I also asked the dealer about the down shifting that I feel as I am decellerating. It feels a little rough, as I decellerate below 40mph. I can feel as it downshifts into each gear. I don't like that. The dealer said that was normal, too.

datagen

I just purchased a Sonata and I am having a hell of a time getting the weather data service activated. On the radio, the button is there next to the traffic, stocks, and sport buttons, but it is not activated. Sirius tells me the radio is not equip to handle the feature. Yet I see some customers out there whom have purchased the service with no problems.

Is there anyone out there with this issue? I know it is on a 3 months free service but I want to purchase the Weather data feature and for some reason I can not. Anyone out there have this issue or whom have the weather service, please let me know.

moontrain

It should all be free for three months. My weather worked for my free time.

hjc1

Does your car have the Nav. system? If it doesn't that could be the reason the weather doesn't work Just a thought.

petdogdfw

I received a recall update from Hyundai saying I needed to have the steering software updated and also had no steering problems with my car.

After the update the car still drives fine, if not even better.

petdogdfw

The weather features costs extra on top of the Music Subscription from XM Radio.

9394

why don't you let somebody else drive it for a week and you take the bus (or switch cars), see if that person develops the same pain and yours go away.

have you seem a doctor, the problem could be in your body? hope this is not the case.

.

hjc1

Yes I know this........... I still have about 3 weeks left on my free subscription and the weather works. I have the Nav. system and the weather description changes when I move from one area to another so it must be tied into the Nav. system somehow. If your Sonata doesn't have the Nav. system how would it know how to give you a weather update for your location.................

petdogdfw

To my knowledge you can only receive the weather if you have the navigation and specifically subscribe to that service. Since it uses the navigation to determine your current position, it is able to get the weather "local" to you current location.

The weather feature is really a nice feature, but when I realized how much more it costs, I decided not to renew it in my subscription.

rhizhiy

My 2011 Turbo SE pulls left, even after 4 visits to a dealer.
What are people doing to get this resolved? Lemon? Hyundai corporate are ignoring me and not calling back, even though I have an open ticket explaining the issue. Dealer manager is not calling me either..

ryster

It took a while to get used to the downshifting behavior of the transmission. It is normal. Give it some time and it just fades into the background.

I am really starting to get agitated, however, by the ever increasing road noise. There are times when I can barely stand it and can't wait to get out of the car for some peace and quiet.

The Kumho tires on my Sonata are "A" rated for both traction and temperature and are noisy. Not sure what "B" rating your tire dealer was referencing. A tire with a high treadwear rating (600+) may have a harder compound, but the Kumho KH25 tires are rated at 480 which is very reasonable.

ken2011

OWN A 2011 2.0 My dealer put my car on " road force & smart trac balance machine", found 24 lbs of net left pull. Pull reduced to 5 lbs. The mech says pull completly gone, but still noticable at times, but 75% better then what it was. This is a expensive machine, not sure all dealerships are equiped.

tetovari

I have the same problem and I'm going for arbitration .
Hyundai can't figure it out what causes the problem . I may sue them
in court for claiming that there is no pull when it's obvious that there is and they know it . They are lying ! I wonder can we all ( owners with the same problem) hire law firm and sue them colectively ?!

nj2pa2nc

we must be one of the lucky ones-no left pull on our "11 6MT sonata, bought 7/10. It now has 14,000+miles.

datagen

Yes, I discovered that I had to pay $9.20 to have the service for 3 months. After that I was told not to take their first offer. Drag it along and they will discount. Now if it is low enough for you is another story, but I like the feature. I have a couple of Lincolns and it is a sweet feature there as well. :shades:

pearl11

Our first post here. We special ordered our Turbo Limited on Valentines day, with all the options we wanted, including Navigation. It is Iridescent Silver Blue Pearl with Gray Leather interior, nickname "Pearl". After bugging the dealer, we finally got our car almost 3 months later, May 11 (build date April 25). It was suppose to have 18 inch hyper silver alloy wheels with low profile tires, however it came with 17 inch alloy wheels and P215/55R17 tires (which are not low profile). There is a decal stating this is the factory size wheels it was equipped with. The dealer told us the factory was out of 18 inch wheels and they couldn't tell us if or when they would be available again. The car we originally test drove had the 18 inch wheels. The car we got does seem to ride smoother than the one with 18 inch wheels. We do not think it will handle as well on curvey roads, and we liked the more evenly space spoke pattern of the 18 inchers. We were told we could have our deposit for the car back if we didn't like the 17 inch wheels. We loved the car and were tired of waiting so we took the car with the 17 inch wheels. We were charged the same with the smaller wheels and tires. Do you think this was fair? We wonder if this could be Hyundai's fix for the left pull problem?

We are still trying to figure out the Navigation and Radio settings.

Andy

backy

Hyundai did not deliver the car you purchased. 18" wheels/tires are typically more costly than 17" wheels/tires. IMO some kind of compensation is due. I am rather shocked that the dealer did not offer something, e.g. a gift certificate.

One idea: check with the parts department of another Hyundai dealership and ask for pricing on the 17" wheel and tire from your car, and the 18" wheel and tire that was supposed to be on the car. If the 18 inchers cost more, take that number times 4 to your dealership and ask for a refund.

schdy

Read this:

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/05/16/6653781-trump-not-running-for-pr- esident

schdy

I apologize for posting the wrong website. Here is the correct one.

http://autos.aol.com/article/used-cars-that-are-worth-more-now/?ncid=webmail&nci- d=AOLCOMMautogenlfpge0006&a_dgi=aolshare_email

ryster

Seems like a fair deal. Neither Hyundai nor the dealer are obligated to make any concessions. Hyundai reserves the right to make changes to the product at any time they wish. The dealer cannot be held liable for any changes made by the manufacturer.

As long as the agreed upon price was honored, the dealer has upheld their part of the deal. The consumer can always refuse delivery if they feel the product is not as ordered. As soon as the consumer takes delivery, the vehicle has been accepted as satisfactory.

It's my understanding that Hyundai has actually increased retail pricing recently on the Sonata despite the change in wheels on the Turbo Limited models. Your dealer did the right thing by honoring the February pricing (or letting you choose to walk away with your deposit back.)

Back in the early 90's, I special ordered a Dodge sport coupe with specific options. When the vehicle arrived 10 weeks later, it had wheel covers instead of alloy wheels and no cruise control. The dealer explained that Dodge made mid-year changes to the model and alloy wheels and cruise control were no longer standard (as they were when I ordered the car.) I refused the car and they gave me my $300 deposit back.

Kirstie_H

Sorry folks, the forums can't be used to organize legal action.

osaka75

This is awesome! Too bad I didn't purchase a 2011 when I got a great quote. I stuck with my 2006.

And what really shocked me is that these prices are above sticker, not above what the dealer pays or above True Market Value but above sticker.

I imagine this means that the best prices on new ones are higher than they were a year ago, too.

snakeweasel

This is awesome!

It is, A few months ago we picked up a 2011 that was a demo, got a good deal on it. I recently checked KBB and according to them the trade in value is several hundred more than I paid for it.

maxx4me

Did anyone chat with John Krafcik (CEO H USA) last night, and if so, did anyone ask him whether H would bring the 2012 Sonata wagon to the US?

sebzx79

I did and there is no plan for 2012 as the only engine that have in it is the 2.0 NU (non turbo) which they dont sell here in such a big vehicle. But they are working on it. Lets hope for 2013 model year.

jrmckinn

For those of you experiencing the left pull, is it something that is immediately noticeable? I plan on test driving a sonata in the next couple of days, so I'm curious if it's something I'll feel right away. Thanks!

tukej

Left pull more noticable at hwy speed. Just keep yoyr foot on pedal and take hands off steering wheel.

marcus216

I recently test drove a 2011 Hyundai Sonata Limited Turbo. Absolutely great car except for the seat height of the front passenger seat. Here is a car that lists for around $28,000 that has a killer engine, is quiet, had very nice interior, great trunk, rides smooth as silk, and looks great. But, I could not believe how low the passenger seat was. Not comfortable at all for my wife or myself. The seat does not adjust for height and is manually adjusted fore and aft. That was a deal killer for me. I would have a new Hyundai Sonata right now if not for the passenger seat issue. C'mon Hyundai, how could you have missed that!

nelson1

I love my Sonata Limited, except for 2 things. It is noisy on the road. I suspect tires, but the dealer, nor the tire store will take responsibility. The other thing is the way it downshifts, when I am decellerating. That, I am getting used to, however, the noisy tires are very frustrating.

alookman

Sonata and Accord both are noticibly noisier than say Camry or Altima. I suspect besides tires it's the firmer suspension, SE is even more noisier than GLS or LTD.

If you want soft mushy suspension but quiet car than Camry is your choice.

moontrain

I had to buy a pillow for my wife. It would be great if they had a 6 way power seat over there like on my side. We found a real nice small bage pillow in walmart that matched our seats and that works great.

kyrpto

Based on experience I must disagree.

We owned an '07 Camry 4 cyl. for almost 5 years. Our new Sonata Hybrid is just as quiet, maybe even more quiet. It also drives way better than the Toyota. Also own a 4 cyl. Venza which is very quiet even with the 19" tires.

petdogdfw

I agree about the passenger seat. I really didn't think much of it, since I drove the car during the test drive. But when I do sit in the pax seat, I can definately tell it is very low.

Not sure why it sits like that. Hyundai should consider making that adjustable.
Other than that and the wimpy horn that can barely be heard, I do love my Sonata Limited. It has just over 14K miles and I have had it a little over a year now.

yankman04

I have a 2011 Sonata and have not had any problems with the seat height. I am 5' 7" male. How tall is your wife?

bcasey3

My wife has the same complaint about the passenger seat being too low. I think many of the new cars have this issue due to the low profile streamline design. We bought a nice seat pad and now she is happy. I have had two cars that had power passenger seats, but they are 4 way (no height adj). Some cars have a manual height adj but for drivers side only. I think the only cars that have 6 way passenger seats are high end models such as Mercedes and Lexus.
I wanted to add that we have had our 2011 Limited for just over a year and have had no issues or problems such as pulling or excessive noise. Very satisfied, and would buy again.

m6user

Is the passenger seat actually lower than the drivers seat as measured from the ground? Or is it the high window sill on the door as they have shrunk the windows and increased the height of the top edge of the doors for occupant protection? It seems that the passengers that are complaining are wives mostly and maybe they are just a little shorter in stature and notice the height of the door more. I don't know. I seem to recall a guy posting that it didn't bother him but it bothered his wife.

Just curious as this seems to come up often.

ryster

My parents 2010 Ford Taurus Limited has a 10-way adjustable power passenger seat. The Taurus SEL model has an available 6-way passenger seat. Chevy Impala LT and LTZ also offer 6-way passenger seats.

Hyundai should think about including a 6-way passenger seat on SE and Limited trims, or at least making it available as an option. It would further differentiate them from the competition.

I have had a couple of people complain that the passenger seat in my 2011 Sonata seems low. Personally, I am 6ft5in tall and have no issues with it.

jlindh

The Ford Taurus Limited MSRP is $32,950 and is in the Hyundai Azera class. The Azera Limited does have a power adjustable passenger seat AFAIK. The Ford to compare to the Sonata would be the Fusion.

backy

Why not put at least a manual height adjuster on the passenger seat of the Sonata (and other mid-sizers for that matter)? It can't cost that much, and some smaller/lesser cars have that feature, e.g. Cruze and Jetta. Maybe Hyundai doesn't realize that two people can be involved in the buying decision, and one might occupy the passenger seat a lot.

keyman2

Is the Passenger seat very low?I agree in what you said and if enough people complained maybe Hyundai would take notice?I was supposed to buy a Sonata but I have problems with a very sick girlfriend.I'm buying a car within 2 months.I also like the Kia Optima but the Sonata is beautiful,I'm just worried about the left pull and passenger seat.

snakeweasel

here is my two cents on this.

On the pulling left just test drive the car that you will buy before taking delivery to see if that particular car has that issue. Mine doesn't and others on this forum also say they don't have that issue. So it seems like it is only affecting a limited number of cars.

As for the passenger seat, thats much ado about nothing. I had no issues with it and it doesn't seem to be a problem getting in and out of it. It's not as if you have to adjust it for driving or to see properly to drive.

backy

It's not too low for me (I've had seat time more than once in the 2011 Sonata), but could be for other people. I agree with another poster who said the high window sills could give passengers the feeling of being low when in fact the seat height is pretty normal.

There's a height adjuster on the driver's seat... why not on the passenger seat? Could just use the driver's seat from right-hand-drive models.

nelson1

Mine does not have the left pull issue, nor is the passenger seat being low an issue for my wife. We love our Sonata Ltd., with 1500 miles on it, now, but we do have an issue. That is road noise on certain types of road surfaces. It has loud noise in the passenger cabin. Tires have been checked by a Tire store, and dealer has checked the car, no causes can be found, so far, at least none that anyone will take responsibility for. I believe it is these Kumho tires that are just LOUD.

lfr3

Do you have an issue with your HD radio not holding a station? I live on Long Island and my HD radio will not hold a station. I have been in other cars such as BMW's and the HD radio holds the signal.
Do you have any issues with your bluetooth reception? I have been told numerous times that the person on the other end can not hear me. I even called Hyundai Corpprate from my phone at night to leave a message. They didn't understand the message, but they looked at the caller ID to return the call; yet they still said my bluetooth is working fine!
Any problems like this on your end?

engbert

About the only thing I disliked about my 2011 Limited was road noise. So I recently switched my half worn tires for Michelin MXV4. I think the noise is much improved, although it is hard to make objective tests because there are so many variables.

Incidentally, the new tires must be a little bigger. Compared with my Tomtom GPS, the speedometer is now spot on, where it was 4% low. However, the odometer distance is now about 4% low compared with the GPS.

nelson1

No issues at all with the radio. It works fine, in fact, better than the one in my Cadillac DeVille. Also, the Blue Tooth works perfectly.

Someone else mentioned that the speedometer was a tad too fast. I have noticed that my GPS, speed of 70mph on the speedo, is 2 miles slower than the GPS says. A tire with a slightly largler circumferance would eliminate that difference, and probably make the car quieter. But, I am not willing to shell out around $300 to make the trade. My tires have 1500 miles on them, and Discount Tire offerred me 50 bucks on trade in for Michelins, which sell for $15l each.

schdy

I have had no issues with my bluetooth. I don't have a HD radio but my XM works fine here on LI. Also my wife is 5ft and a little overweight and she finds the passenger seat very comfortable. Since I have reached the 3k miles on my car my local mileage has jumped to 24mpg and a recent 100 mi highway trip produced 37mpg. I'm very happy with my purchase and recommend it to all my friends and relatives.

nelson1

Oops! I did not state that properly. GPS indicates 68 and 69, speedometer indicates 70. These Kumho tires are 215x55x17. I believe that 215x60x17 would be quieter, and the speed would be more accurate. See www.miata.net/garage/tirecalcold.html

raincountry

I have only had my Sonata limited for a few days, and the same thing you are describing is happening. What happened with your Sonata?