Honda Civic Hatchbacks (1990-2000)
I was at the MAGX website the other day and came
across the new Civic Hatchback, which kinda looks
like a really small minivan. I can't say much for
the sedan though. That thing just looks hideous
from the rear end. They have a three door
hatchback available but what's on the website is
the five door version. Check out this link:
http://www.magx.ne.jp/scoop/civic0007/index.html
across the new Civic Hatchback, which kinda looks
like a really small minivan. I can't say much for
the sedan though. That thing just looks hideous
from the rear end. They have a three door
hatchback available but what's on the website is
the five door version. Check out this link:
http://www.magx.ne.jp/scoop/civic0007/index.html
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By the way, I've seen pictures of the undisguised Civic sedan and coupe and they are -very- conservatively styled--they remind me of a reduced size Accord, of all things. But then, Honda car owners are not the type of people interested in adventrous styling, just solidly-built, reliable cars.
"I'm moving to VW! maybe even Ford, god forbid!"
I'm a hockey fan, even when Rangers loose and suck for three years in a row, I still can't admit it out loud and say "Rangers suck, man".
You can't be loyal to the Car manufacturer in the same way as sport fan is loyal to the sport team.
Why, because you can live without NHL,(What did I just say!),but you can't live without a car.
And you spend a lot of money to have the car, while being a Rangers fan doesn't cost you a lot (it causes a lot of frustration as of late, though).
The car purchase is a necessary investment.
No blind loyalty in the money issues!
Even the Communism and Capitalism , while being two extremes don't have any loyalty.
[non-permissible content removed] is where the money are!
I wish you good luck considering other cars and learning how to judge them without being blindly biased. It will make you a much better and happier buyer.
Peace...
'06 Civic LX coupe
'11 BMW 335i coupe xDrive
'13 Honda Accord sedan (wife's car)
Why did Honda kill the CRX? It was one of the best cars of all time. It will go down as a compact legend like the '83-'83 GTI. I would love to see cars like that built with the current technology.
Anyway, Honda majorly messed up when they cancelled their 4 year product run. You could always count on a new car every four years from Honda. Not anymore! The Integra's life span is just plain ridiculous. My brother owns a 95 Integra GSR sedan and has been waiting for them to release the new one before deciding to trade in for something else. He has been disappointed every year when the Integra just kept soldiering on with no real changes. Now, the ultimate disappointment: after all his patient waiting, news comes that there will be no Integra sedan when the new one comes out this spring! They may have just lost his business to Audi or Lexus. Honda is going to lose a lot of loyalty unless they get their act together. This 5 year or greater product cycle is not going to work when the products offered are possibly the blandest looking cars on the road. Honda, get your act together!!!!
Ok, so I was let's say 24 yrs old 10yrs ago. Now that I 'm an average of 34 (which I am) it means I want a boring looking car that drives like a family sedan? Man, my friend's '91 Accord EX was like 3 times sportier than his current '98 Accord EX. His accord now drives almost like a Lincoln Continental and is no fun to drive at all. His old EX was just as fast and could out corner it easily. Same with the older Civics and CRX as well compared to today's Civics. They were lighter and more swift. Golf the same. How can a Golf GTI weigh 2800lbs?? What the hek is that? My wife's Mitsubishi Galant weighs that much and so does an Accord DX!
GTI was always known for being a light nimble car.
Maybe the insurance companies here in the US are forcing them to make heavier cars thinking they 'll be safer in crashes? don't know.. but I don't like the way things are progressing. Toyota has managed to keep the weight down on the Celica and produces a fine sporty pocket rocket in the GT-S flavor. Even the GT is more than adequate with 140hp at 2500lbs and a great handler. This is one of the reasons the GSR was so successful the first few years ('94-97) and why there is such a big aftermarket support. Lightweight means quick and able to handle better and gives it a great advantage when going up against more powerful and torquier but heavier cars. So far the S2000 has all the right moves. 240hp weighing only 2700lbs. But then again that's not a practical car and is too expensive for most people's pockets..
'06 Civic LX coupe
'11 BMW 335i coupe xDrive
'13 Honda Accord sedan (wife's car)
I believe we all see things with Honda in the same light. I used to be known at work as "Mr. Honda" because I haved owned so many - from the beginning. I'm 51, but my heart is 19. Yes, they are now catering to the aging non-enthusiasts and loosing the folks (us) that promoted them (rightly so) for the great handling, light, responsive, well appointed (tach!), reliable, stylish, slick shifting, ergonomic, great buys, race winners, they were. No wonder I'm looking at a 2001 Focus ZX3 with 16 inchers. Ford is now trying to fill our market niche. But, we are more than just a niche. For Honda, we were promoters of the product - advising the more middle-roaders to at least test drive one when in the market to buy. Hopefully, Honda HQ will return to its roots. Later...
The new '01 Civic DX & LX will have 115hp, a 9hp increase. Fine, great. Now the EX will have the same 127hp!! What the hek?? So this means that there has only been a 2hp increase for the EX in 10yrs (since '96 and until the next redesign in '06)!! And the '92-95 EXs were 125hp, pretty much the same as now, but weighed less back then. I 'm sure the 1.7L of the '01 Civics will provide more torque but that will be cancelled out due their increased weight. I won't be surprised if the new EX is slower than the current one. It should 've been around 135hp or so. The Japanese Domestic market (JDM) '01 EX has 130hp. They couldn't give the USDM EX the misely 3 more hp that the EX has elsewhere?
'06 Civic LX coupe
'11 BMW 335i coupe xDrive
'13 Honda Accord sedan (wife's car)
It's sad but live with it. You can't expect a car company to spend a great deal of $$$ developing or certifying a car for a market where it won't sell (did anyone even buy the Civic Si?).
Believe me, dealers had no trouble selling the SIs on their lot. My brother in law is a Honda salesman in PA and says the Si's never stay on the lot for more than 2 weeks. Besides there is a predetermined number of DX, LX, EX and SIs that are been built every year and all the SIs have been sold. What did you think? that there are thousands of '00 SIs sitting in dealers' lots?
Many people used to buy Civic DX or EXs and mod them to get more power and better handling. These kind of people now bought the Si. You can't beat the price for what you get. It's an affordable pocket rocket that is reliable and has high resale value.
'06 Civic LX coupe
'11 BMW 335i coupe xDrive
'13 Honda Accord sedan (wife's car)
Roomer Hazzit that even before the '01 Civic premiered here, Honda was hinting they might bring the Hatch Back for '02! (Sorry, couldn't resist...)
I'd love a 3-door Civic HB with the 160-hp engine from the Si Coupe, a sport-tuned suspension, a manual 5 or 6 speed transmission and cruise control... and NO DAMN SUNROOF! I'd rather have the headroom....
'06 Civic LX coupe
'11 BMW 335i coupe xDrive
'13 Honda Accord sedan (wife's car)
I have linked this discussion into that folder, but it will always reside here in Hatchbacks.
Looking forward to meeting everyone!
KarenS
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'06 Civic LX coupe
'11 BMW 335i coupe xDrive
'13 Honda Accord sedan (wife's car)
-AbbŽ
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http://www.honda2001.com/civicsi/index.html
Can Cruise Control be installed at the dealer on my 99 CX hatch?
I'd do it if the price was OK
Also, check out our Honda Civic Si discussion. Happy Motoring!
Revka
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