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I have to confess that those new RAV4s are pretty hot looking, superficially speaking. I find I am wanting to have a fling, er, test drive, and I am not an SUV person. I was surprised that they supposedly have 68.3 cu feet with rear seats folded down. I wonder if maybe some manufacturers are overstating their cargo capacity.
my BRP RS, get's really dusty quick. Maybe I am just anal. However I do get lots more of compliment on the Blue Ridge Pearl colour than my Silverthorn Metalic OBS. I guess the blue looked really slick. I dunno. No one refers to my car as an RS or the Impreza but to the colour scheme which is BRP so BuRPy Scooby is now the name of the car.
I too have to agree that the RAV4 is quite neat looking.
It takes a while to get used to driving a manual car. I am glad I learned to drive manual on a really really old car. New car these days are alot more forgiving when starting from 1st gear. Almost a no brainer...whereas the old cars requires a fine balance b/t clutch out and gas in....
I appreciate your purchase and let me know if I can help in any way.
Patti
It's kinda hard for me to say since I traded in a V8 truck with 240hp and 300lbft torque, I'm kinda used to pavement ripping power. Coming out of a vehicle like that I thought I was gonna be a little out of sorts but I was wrong. Obviously the power of the OBS is not in the same league but it is very responsive and can hum through corners at 40mph that I used to have to slow to 20 to keep from spinning out. Also, this is my first daily driven 5spd (my other car is a weekend only 1984 Mustang SVO)so I still haven't quite found the shift points to keep me in the power band (Ramon, any suggestions?) but the couple of times I got it right it felt great. I did test drive the automatic right after driving the 5 spd and there was a noticeable difference. The automatic just soaked up too much power and I didn't feel confident in passing situations. I know I love mine but I hit a lot of stop and go rush hour traffic coming home and that takes some of the pleasure out of the 5spd.
Hope that helps,
Rich
Brekke: when you get your car just practice finding the point at which your clutch engages by doing really slow takeoffs (like in an empty parking lot), keep them smooth and don't go a notch faster unless it's smooth, keep working up a little faster and a little faster.
With my manual OBS, I could really launch fast and it was a thrill to feel the car surge forward even with the 2.2 engine and no mods!
It is a step up for me, and I wouldn't have classified it as tinny although the only other new car I looked at (briefly) was a VW. I welcome anyone who wants to hear a "cheap sound and feel" door to slam my car door shut while the window or sunroof is open. I shut the Impreza door while the window was open and it didn't sound bad at all. Unless it was a "dealer trick"
Caroline
However I get annoyed and abit embarassed when I shut my Impreza door when the window is down and it emits that glass shaking noise! But it's ok. No biggie to me. I notice the new Outback H6s and even the new Legacies shut with a nice thud.
The new age Impreza is slightly better than the GC8 models. Not a whole lot.
hey celeste! check out the carpeted coin box on you centre console!
And are extra protection for the foglights/headlights necessary? So many new things to worry about...
Now those were tinny doors! The 02 Impreza's doors are even better than the old one's.
Most people advise against the warranty saying you usually don't get your money's worth. Others say it's definately worth it. I think the bigger expense items are covered under the powertrain warranty anyway. It's just peace of mind I suppose. If you do decide on the warranty, make sure you read all of the fine print on everything that's covered. You have until the expiration of your 3/36 to decide.
Have you seen the clear light protection posted on the new-impreza.com and the i-club? I think it's definately worth it if you do a lot of freeway driving or go down dirt/gravel roads.
Dennis
If this has been answered before, I apologize. Thanks!
Luke
-juice
aaluke: My husband found a Torx screwdriver in the spare tire compartment. There should be one with your car. Or try the glove box. If you don't have one, go to the dealer and ask for one, one should be there with your car.
Ramon: coin box?? huh? carpeted?? did I miss something?? Let me in on this thing....
brekke: don't get the warranty, it's a ripoff designed to get you to pay for nothing. You already have a 3 yr. warranty or what is it, 60,000 miles or something? Let's face it, if you get a lemon, you'll know it very soon.. it will still be under warranty. Put that money you'd spend each month on the warranty into a savings account. Bet you won't need it for stuff that warranty's for, and besides, that warranty doesn't cover EVERYTHING. Then YOU will earn the iterest on your money, they won't. My older son just bought a 2000 Legacy GT and fell for that. We talked about it the day after he bought the car and he called the next day to cancel. That would have cost him $160.00 per month for 10 months!!! Think of the gas you can buy for your car with prices what they are!!
sure wish my RS has that trunk light. I am so envious! Heck I can live with the minus in power but man O man! no trunk light?!
I dunno why the 2.2l Imprezas have no map lights. Incidentally my RS has them. Hmm.... but no trunk light!!! >(
I'm getting frustrated trying to get a nice launch. I know the OBS isn't a rocket but I have a hard time getting up to speed from a stop. Can you tell how and when you shift from a stop, speed/rpm? I tend to upshift by time I'm hitting 2500 in 1st and 2nd cause I feel like I'm beating it taking it any higher.
Help,
Frazzled Rich
note the Holzer front spoiler lip. Yup, she's gone exotica!!!
Ramon: she's a little darlin'. Did you wash and wax? How many miles do you have on her now? I like that you turned the lights on in one of those photos. When you post those, do you just use the img /img things in brackets around the site like in i-club? Will wash my car tomorrow and get her shined up and get some pics for here. Well it looks like I'm getting a Ganz intake for Mother's Day. And a--get this--AMSOIL air filter. He already bought it, and I said, "Why Amsoil?" and he'd been reading a bunch of posts on the i-club, you know how that goes. Oh well... Hey, what kind of motor oil are you using?
Got to drive my son's Legacy GT on a quick trip to the store yesterday. That shifter is alot looser feeling than the one in my OBS was. I think it must be the bearing, eh? Nice leather shift knob, too.
Funny, on my 2000 OBS (manual) there is no way I could get above 18 mpg. in the city. NO WAY....
Never thought an auto tranny would put out this good!
Does anyone think that the undercoating or rust protection that the dealer offers is worth getting.
Yahoo.com, click on clubs, type in "Outback Sport" and join there, ask away. It's another source of information and quite a few members over there with OBS's, too. Another place to information, mostly about the RS model (but same engine and platform as the OBS) is i-club.com, known otherwise as the North American Impreza Owners Club. See, your OBS is an Impreza. Tons of useful stuff there, too.
No, I bought it right off the lot. Just waiting for keyless entry and an imobilizer to be put in. Hope to have it by the end of this week !!. Thanks for the other info.
had a hectic weekend. went for the WRX test and drive session. Will have a write up later. To answer your previous post, yes... I had BuRPy washed, polished then let it cure for a day and then do a complete wet wipe down before waxing it. The entire process took 2 days. But I think it's worth it. However it's dirty again....
It has about 5000km on it. Not sure what the mile is. You yanks need to join the rest of the world and use the metric system!!!!
Ok this is what I use to post. It's the same technique to post image as at the iclub. But instead of '[' ']' parenthesis use the Clear as mud?
I ordered the same car you took off the lot. Enjoy! (Also my first Sube)
Caroline
Hope these photos of my car turn out, here she is!!
- WRX presentation
- track test (more like an autoX circuit)
- street test
The presentation was ok. I mean for us Scoobynut, it's pretty basic stuff. I was rearing to go on the track test which is basically like an autoX course. There were 5 WRXs to be tested. Actually before we can jump into them and let lose some hell we were given a 10minute 'lecture' on performance driving by one of the top performance instructor in Canada. It was really good. He was really kewl about the entire thing. Anyways 3 5spds and 2 autos. I got to take a 5spd WRX sedan out. They won;t let us do 5000rpm drops. max 1500rpm! Yikes! Hmm... well it does have good pickup. Won't yank you like the bigger 2.5l RS. Maybe I wasn't used to the car yet and the course, I came out a bit disappointed. I felt the handling to be vague compared to my GC8 Impreza. Eck. There seemed to be a lag when I crank the wheel before the car begins to turn! As a result I hit one of the cones. =( eventhough the instructor told us to keep to a certain speed on each part of the course sections, I didn't care less. I let 'er go like there's no tomorrow. Hhahaha.... In the tight course, it is quite hard to stay on boost. So it didn't feel very quick. I thought I would get another chance to go out again since I noticed a few guys actually went out twice! But that chance didn't come and I was quite pissed since I figured the 2nd time would give me a better chance to drive the car having familiarised myself with the track more.
However we were all given the chance to ride with the instructors on the track and boy o boy! It was fun! The instructor really pushed the car all over the place. He was performing 4 wheel drifts on the corners on the dry tarmac ground and with 3 passengers too!!!! Was tre kewl. IMHO it is not the fastest way to go on the course, but I think it demonstrates how compose the car can be on these situations. needless to say the drifts like dat on a dry road course can only be done on lousy tires and guess what came shodded with the WRX? RE92s. They are pretty much bald.
Overall feel : still disappointed! =(
Then came the street test. Since it's on the streets, there won't be any chance for me to push the car at all. So I was not keen on going, but I went anyways. 9 WRXs were available for this session and I managed to jump into a 5spd silver WRX wagon. Oh so yummy. We bascaily caravan around some streets. However wonders of wonders, there were a few traffic lights which the lead cars went thur but I didn't.... or maybe I didn't want to. So naturally i should catch up right? Catch up I did. And that's when that wonderful WRX turbo kicked in. Wheee!!!!!! Totally love that midrange punch. Oh man. It was fast! I love to wind this sucker up to redline! And the WRX wagon likes it too I figured. Totally way faster than my RS. Phuey! Alas my confidence for this car has been restored. I love it. And I had passengers in the car with me too. Whee!!! Wish I can take the car to some other more open area.
Overall feel : Wheee!!!!!
I sincerely think that this car will not go any further than G stock for autoX. It is heavy and off boost, the car is a slug. But on tracks or any canyon carving duties, the WRX is awesome! The suspension is firm but not bone jarring. For the money, this car simply blows others away! Still think this car has lots of potential tho.
Oh yes, we got free BBQ after the event.
I will not bother reviewing the interior or the looks of the car as it is not important to me. Yes, I do love the seats! The MOMO wheel to me is not as good as it is hard. It doesn't have that cushiony feeling of my RS's wheel. But who cares. I don't care.
I'm sure I prolly left out other stuff about the test and drive day, but that's all I can remember right now. Later!
Dave
I've got a question for owners of the 2002 OBS, and this might also apply to earlier models. When changing lanes in the OBS, I found that it's hard to check for cars in my blind spot when looking over my left shoulder. The way the car body is designed, there's no real window to look out of from that position. I'd like to know how people have adjusted to this, or if it's not as much of an issue as I think it might be. When I test drove it, I found this to be a little annoying, but it's hard to tell whether or not it's an easy "quirk" to get used to.
Any comments would be appreciated. Thanks in advance, and I look forward to more OBS discussions!
I hope the new design is better. the Subaru info guy seemed to address the driving view of the new design and how it is so advanced.
Maybe we're not used to driving 5dr hatches/wagons. Celeste any thoughts?
Ramon: Loved hearing about your WRX adventure. Sounds to me that the RS will still be THE car for autocross, eh? You know it's just as well because I like seeing that each car has it's own niche. Anyway, bet you like not having to buy that high octane!!
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I've since removed the roof rack crossbars. Was very easy to do once I found the torx screw driver (in the dash compartment, thanks guys!).
Action303: Yes, there is a slight blind spot over the left shoulder. I haven't found it to be a problem though. Once you get to used to it, it's easy to deal with.
luke, your car looks great too
-juice
Hope this turned out this time....
Hope this turned out this time....
Here's the link to one photo, I think....
I like the interior. Looks classier than the old OBS. =( See how soon we start to ditch our old babies. =(
-juice