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Jeep Wrangler Modifications

mgarviemgarvie Posts: 17
edited February 2014 in Jeep
Maybe someone can point me in the right direction on how to rewire my 2006 TJ lights. I just missed a deer driving home from work AGAIN and I want more light!

First of all, how do I change my fog lights so that they stay on when my high beams are on? It sure would be nice to see them little critters on the side of the road before they they throw themselves under my tires.

Secondly, I'm going to add some driving lights on a light bar or on a windshield hinge bracket. Where can I find some easy to understand instructions on how to wire them up so they come on with my high beams? For ease of use and to spare my fellow drivers from being blinded, separate switches don't seem like an option,

And last on my list, can someone recommend a good quality driving light for long range on a country road? Bambi will thank you for it.

Thanks Folks


  • dmrapdmrap Posts: 4
    I just became the proud owner of a 2005 Wrangler Rubicon. I am interested in getting the best running board/side step, but I am concerned about installation. I particularly like the "Rock Barz" by Warrior Products, because they are very low profile and will not impeded off-roading. The problem is that they must be drilled into the frame.

    Does anyone know of a good running board that does not require drilling?
  • tidestertidester Posts: 10,059
    You will more likely get a reply if you stick with the main Jeep Wrangler discussion.

    tidester, host
  • dmrapdmrap Posts: 4
    The top of my web page says that this IS the Jeep Wranglers Owners Forum. I assume from your message that it is not?
  • tidestertidester Posts: 10,059
    Click on the link I provided in my previous message and you'll see it's a different place! :)

    tidester, host
  • dmrapdmrap Posts: 4
    I see. I have no idea how that happened, but I apologize!
  • tidestertidester Posts: 10,059
    Not a problem! :)

    tidester, host
  • o2curiuso2curius Posts: 12
    Does anyone happen to know what elec. fan I can use in my TJ.e.g. Cavalier, Tempo? If any at all? I ave sen the Be Cool kits in my catalog but I don't feel like spending $189/fan plus $89/wiring kit plus $49/mounting brackets for it. I have the SE model so I have 3 blanks next to ashtray for the switch. Any help would be cool, thanks.
  • jplymanjplyman Posts: 90
    I thought it would be great if we could have a fourm where people could discuss and share modification that they have done or want to do to thier Wranglers. It would be great if we could keep this to DIY modification and those that cost under $500 -

    Can't wait to see all the ideas that are out there.
  • jplymanjplyman Posts: 90
    Hello all -

    I was wondering if anyone has built thier own insta-trunk for an Unlimited. If so what materails and was it difficult or easy.


  • I am putting an AMC 360 in my 1988 Jeep Wrangler YJ. Does anyone know if the motor mounts from a 1978 CJ-5 will work? Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks.
  • i want to remove the side steps that came with my 05 rocky mountain edition wrangler and add rocker panels to give my jeep the rubicon look. can i do this, john? how much does it cost for those things? can i remove that small hump thing near the front wheels that is on the x and other models but not on the rubicons? thanks for your help
  • erickplerickpl Posts: 2,735
    Eastcoastdiver eh? Scuba? Just got back from 1 week in Bonaire. :)

    The Rubicon rocker guards really don't help a whole lot and are more cosmetic, IMO. The small plastic flare CAN be removed pretty easily. I did it on my SE and added Toys by Troy rockers. Not less than $50.00, but improve the protection and looks of the Jeep, IMO.

    You might be able to find some on eBay or some of the Jeep-specific forums from folks who took em off their Rubicon for the heavier duty armor like the TbT, A to Z Fabrication, Shrockworks, or Poison Spyder rocker guards.

  • i'm sure you got your money's worth diving bonaire... i'm very jealous.

    i'll take a look for those products you mentioned. will they give me directions to slap them on the jeep? or do i just have to instinctively know how to do it? same with ripping off the small plastic flairs...

    you're obviously writing to a piss-poor "mechanic" and i need your help. the one project i did was take out the entire interior and have a rhino liner sprayed on. i bolted everything back in but EVERYTHING rattles now, noticeably louder than before.

    thanks for your help and happy diving,
  • erickplerickpl Posts: 2,735
    Jackson, Bonaire was nice. :)

    Most come with directions, and pretty good ones. Their sites will usually have the instructions you can download. Probably the only thing you'd want to have to install them is some kind of floor jack that you can use to lift them into place and hold them while you drill the holes in the tub (yes, you have to drill some holes).

    The small plastic flare extensions are simply bolted on. If you look under them, you'll see what you need to loosen. Once off, take a rubber mallet and tap the sheet metal flat if it is bowed out a bit from around where the bolt was through the body.

    Many people use some kind of liner between the rockers and tub to prevent metal/metal contact (rust and noise). I used Tough Stuff gasket guard and it works VERY well.

    Here is my TJ with just the rockers.


    You can see the holes I drilled along the top. I also had to do some on the underside. Just be sure to wear goggles. :) I followed the install process outlined by Stu Olson at his website.

    I added a few holes when I finished the side armor.

    Granted, these both cost more than the $50.00, but they can save you from serious damage, much more so than the Rubicon guards, which are more cosmetic IMO.

    To address your rattles, what all did you remove?
    - Seats
    - Seat belts
    - Rear seat
    - Center console

    Other than that, not much should need to be removed, unless you have amps or other stuff installed in the tub. My guess something in the center console isn't attached properly, as I'm sure your seats and seat belt latches are all secure. :shades:

    Rhinolining/Line-X is something I REALLY want to do at some point, so any pointers you have on that would be appreciated. :)

  • Thanks for the directions and pictures. That goes a long way for me, and I certainly appreciate it.

    I took out the seats and center console. I think the noise was originally coming from the center console... but now that i put my hard top back on it's a lot louder. i think i need to try putting both of those guys back on again.

    i will keep looking on jeep websites for the brands you recommended. and the gasket guard will definitely be added into the mix as well.

    i'll be sure to put up some pictures once i manage to get this done!

  • erickplerickpl Posts: 2,735
    Just make sure that you tighten everything down. I used Dynamat inside my tuffy console to help quiet things down, like rattles and vibrations from the subwoofer. That might help.

    Look for loose change, washers, etc that may be bouncing around in there too.

  • yesterday i took a ride in my friends jeep and holy mackeral was it amazing. first of all, he sorted out my rattling hardtop with a few quick turns of the wrench. then we took off the sidesteps and mini flares in the front. now i can't wait to get those rocker panels in the mail!

    i can already tell what my next project will be, but it's sort of expensive so it might take a while. my friends jeep has one of those k&n air intakes or filter things and steel exhaust... he says it adds horsepower and you get better miles per gallon. is this true? plus it sounds really good. i think i might want that :)

    thanks for your advice paul.
  • erickplerickpl Posts: 2,735
    Air intake benefits are minimal at best. You may introduce more particulates into the air intake since they don't generally filter as well. But this is a hot debate.

    The exhaust may be freer breathing which may help a bit in the mileage and horsepower gains, but again, I'm not knowledgeable enough to answer better. Some say you'll see gains, some say you won't.

    Glad he fixed your rattling. I have a soft top only, so don't know much about tightening a hard top down.

  • Paul,

    I know this question doesn't pertain to either the removal of side steps or mods under $500, but if I have your attention I'm going to ask anyway. I'll also post to the tire/wheels section.

    I know the BFG 31"x10.50" AT tires are the fave of this forum but I want to know if I can goa little wider. After doing the conversion (as found on quadratec's website) I found a 31"x12.50" tire made by BFG... LT325/60R15. Here is a link to the website:

    31" diameter will obviously fit, if it's getting recommended to stock Jeeps all over this forum. What mods, if any, need to be done to accomodate the extra 2" of width in the tires I want? I know backspacing plays a large role, as told by Tom in another post to this forum this past spring. Will just a new rim with different backspacing do the trick? or will fenders need to be trimmed?

    Thanks, Jackson
  • tsjaytsjay Posts: 4,591

    Backspacing doesn't just have a "lot" to do with it; it has "everything" to do with it.

    You will need wheel spacers, like Paul uses, if you want to keep your factory wheels, or you will need new wheels with four inches or less of backspacing.

    Paul is comfortable with his wheel spacers, but they are pretty controversial, and you will find many people that will tell you to avoid their use. I have no experience with them myself, but I would probably not use them on my Jeep.

    Have you hugged your Jeep today?
  • Thanks for weighing in Tom. Because of guys like you and Paul I've felt more and more comfortable ripping things off my jeep and adding products I feel better about. I will most likely put on new wheels as well, but I will check out these spacers you are talking about. I am intrigued by the "controversy"... What could be so controversial about them? Do they break easily? Are they expensive?
  • mac24mac24 Posts: 3,910
    I've posted a reply, along with a changed title to help future searching, over in the newly re-opened Jeep Wrangler.
  • erickplerickpl Posts: 2,735
    Hey, you ain't gonna blame us for ripping into your jeep. :)

    It's the FEVER! :)

    I've been very comfortable with my spacers. I don't see them as any different than a 4.25" backspaced wheel. I've checked the lugnut torque several times and EVERY time, it has been set at what I torqued them to when I last installed them (after a brake job). They've been VERY solid.

    Now that said, working on the brakes with wheel spacers DOES mean I have to remove 2 things to get to the brake drums or rotors. Not really a big deal to me as I have a warm garage I can work in during the winter and a cool garage during the summer (with a fan). :)

    The controversy about wheel spacers, as Mac has mentioned in another thread, is that older spacers were just that - a spacer - that fit on the factory lugs. As a result, you had less thread into the lug nuts holding the wheel on. These Spidertrax spacers that I use attach to the factory lugs. However, they also have lugs of their own to which the wheel actually attaches. You can see in this pic the spacer on with the factory lugs, and 5 separate lugs are available for the wheel to be installed.


    Notice, too, that there is that little lip on the spacers. That helps ensure you have the wheel mounted properly as well. Nice touch. The only 'mod' I had to do to install these spacers was to remove a c-clip that held the brake drum on. It would have led to the spacers not being totally flush and created a wobble. The 5 lugnuts hold it and the drum on pretty well. :)

  • have 6 cyl in my 87 wrangler want 2 put a 350 chevy do i need a adapator for trans
  • erickplerickpl Posts: 2,735
    Most likely.

    Check out Advanced Adapters. If anybody makes an adapter for engine/tranny, AA is the best one out there.

  • pkearpkear Posts: 26
    I have not yet but I have been looking at it. I would think it would be a simple as dropping a carpeted cut out sheet of plywood with legs in place. I also think having the top off (mines a hard top) would facilitate installation. My problem is on my 2007 with the rear subwofer I have yet to decide If I want to lose quality by muffling the sound or removing the speaker. I saw online that bestop (I think) has one for the 2007 designed with a cut out for the speaker but I still bet you lose sound quality. Maybe I will wait for them to make a basket type or better yet head to my uncle's with some steel tubing and expanded metal so I can make one using his pipe benders. Whatever I decide if I make one I will take pictures and do a step by step or at least as good as I can.
  • broombroom Posts: 6
    I am waiting to receive a 2007 Rubicon 2 door that I ordered. I want to put 35 inch tires on it for off road use and switch to the stock ones when taking road trips. I will buy new wheels with very little back spacing. I don't want to drop thousands into a suspension lift. I thought of doing a combination of a spring spacer lift and a small body lift. Does anyone have experience with a spring spacer style lift? Does it change steering and suspension angles to the point that additional parts need to be purchased to correct any changes? I know I will need to get an alignment after the installation, but I wondered if anyone else had experience re. road handling, drive shaft angles, caster angle, sway bar extensions, pitman arm, etc.? I'm looking at a 2 inch puck style lift. Thanks for any advise.
  • erickplerickpl Posts: 2,735
    To fit 35's you won't need much lift on the new JK's. A simple budget boost should work just fine.

    ANY suspension lift, whether it is with springs/coils or spacers, will affect steering geometry. The amount of affect is based upon lift size. A 2" lift shouldn't affect it enough to matter. Your driveline angles will change a bit, but with the new JK's, I don't know if it would be significant enough to induce vibrations. If it is a 4door, probably not.

    Sway bar angles will be changed unless you have aftermarket swaybar links.

  • broombroom Posts: 6
    Paul, Thanks for the info. I think I will install a spring spacer lift kit. If my ride is affected too much, I can buy longer sway bar arms, adjustable track bars, etc. Hopefully, like you mentioned, a 2 inch kit won't require other mods. By the way, the new Rubicon is unstoppable with it's low low range, disconnecting sway bar, and electronic lockers front and rear. With a small lift and 35 inch mud tires, the only thing holding it back should be my unwillingness to get my new Jeep scratched or dented. -Jim
  • boobahboobah Posts: 18
    HELP!!!!!I have an 87 Wrangler, 6 cylinder, which blew the engine 3/9/07! It's in the shop, and I cannot locate a good condition engine for replacement! I'm in Northern,NJ, and am really desperate! Please e-mail
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