2010 Subaru Outback supply
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I ordered a 2010 outback 6 weeks ago, was told it would take 4 weeks and have heard nothing to date. My dealer told me that they haven't received their allotment report from Subaru yet. You mean that Subaru isn't telling their dealerships when they can get the product?
Any similiar problems out there or am I getting hosed?
Any similiar problems out there or am I getting hosed?
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Dealers get their monthly allotment reports early in the month, probably within a few days, and that tells them what cars are coming to them during that month. If your order went in six weeks ago, it was likely manufactured already and will be shipped to that dealer in October, but the dealer will not know for sure until they receive their report. Four weeks is on the low end for a factory order; 6-10 weeks is more likely.
I think 6-8 weeks is the norm, however.
But it sounds like you ordered yours at the same time as mine, so I don't know why it isn't on it's way. ...Dunno if there are variations in allotment based on the dealers' volume and maybe your dealer isn't favored.... or your dealer did something sleazy and sold your allotted car to someone at a higher price and then re-ordered your car for a later allotment.
I don't think you will ever know, but I suggest putting the new car sales manager on the spot by saying you've read on multiple Internet forums that everyone that ordered their Outback in mid-August got them at the end of September or beginning of October! My dealer had my actually VIN# supplied by Subaru around 9/20, so if they can't even tell you your VIN#, I would start raising heck.
Both the LED puddle lights and the interior illumination package look EXACTLY in real life as they do in the Outback accessories brochure. They don't seem to be enhanced at all.
Both add a moderate amount of bling to the car, but the interior package has a little more utility in that you can see what's inside the cubby bin as well as make visual contact with items in the cupholder when driving at night.
Whether it's worth $210+ is a matter of opinion; I rationalized by thinking about the cost spread out over 5 years. If the cost would have also include a glove box light as well, I'd feel like it was better justified, but I'm still glad I got it.
The puddle lights are relatively cheap ($145 invoice) but the bling factor is best only in near darkness. Garage lights or parking lot lights etc. mostly wash them out.
Enjoy,
Elliot
I did not get the optional puddle light kit.
One lights the bin in front of the shifter, you can actually make stuff out when it's dark.
The other is overhead and just puts a very subtle blue hue that reflects on some of the metallic trim. Less function for that one, but it sure looks cool.
The light is subtle, for sure (much more so than the one in the bin), but it makes a huge difference in comparison to utter darkness. I was able to look and grab, rather than fumble around until I chanced upon, items I needed (er, wanted).
Yes, it does make the trim glow a little as well.
Funny, I never noticed that my 1998 van has lights in the front mini-bin and glove compartment until I started looking at the LED option package on the 2010 Outback. It seems to me little utility lights like that should be standard on all vehicles.
Oh well, still have a few more weeks to go until I get my new car. Can't wait.
So after seeing the Outback in it's New York debut, Philly auto show, countless test drives, tons of Internet research, and studying the sales brochure -- there was never a mention or evidence of a glove box light.
So imagine my surprise driving my 1-week old Outback over the weekend at night and complaining to my wife that there's no glove box light, only to open it and have a glove box light!! :surprise: I thought I was hallucinating, and my wife thought I was a goofball for getting so excited!
Turns out, hiding along the top lip of the box is an orange LED light that only goes on when the headlights are on! So I never noticed during test drives because I expected if there was one it would turn on simply from opening it.
Subaru failed to even mention this in the brochure specifications.
I'm pretty sure this is NOT part of the illumination package but rather a standard feature. Can anyone confirm?
It's not too late -- it's an installable accessory. See the Outback accessory brochure for details.
I will wait and see when I get my car to see if I really need the extra illumination inside.
I have sat in some Outbacks on the dealer lot at night and it seems as if the interior lighting from the dash and heated seat switches in the console will provide enough interior illumination at night.
Does anyone know if the 2.5i springs, struts, and sway bars are the same or different than those on the 3.6R?
My uneducated guess would be that the swap would, at minimum, require new caliper brackets in addition to the larger rotors.
Just took possession of my new 2010 Outback Limited with Nav on Saturday October 31, 2009 - a nice treat for Halloween!
I am still extremely tentative about driving it since it is a new car but I am getting used to it. I still have not had the chance to read through all the material to figure out how everything works, but every day I am noticing more and more little features. So far I love it.
I now understand why some people have commented on the uselessness of the MPG gauge and would have preferred a temperature gauge. I did not realize they meant replacing the MPG gauge on the far left of the dash with an engine temperature gauge. That definitely would have been more helpful.
The only other things I noticed that I would change so far, that other people have mentioned, is closing the rear hatch. I think I drove home from the dealer without it being closed all the way without realizing it until I pulled into my driveway and saw the "doors open" icon lit up on the dash.
Plus, I would have added a little indicator light on the AC button. I did finally notice the rear-view camera in my nav screen while backing out of my garage this morning. Pretty cool! I love all my gadgets.
Question: Are the door locks automatic once you start driving? I don't think they are. If not, that is something Subaru should change also. Can anyone confirm this?
I will probably post at a later date my entire buying experience and thoughts on the car as I break it in.
Subaru does not have automatic door locks. I am thankful for this, but I think most vehicles with that annoyance, er... feature, do maintain the option to disable it. My Dodge Caravan was this way.
Funny you should consider automatic door locks as an annoyance. I consider it a safety feature. Being from NYC originally, and now living in the metro DC area, I feel safer knowing the doors lock automatically as soon as I start driving, especially if driving alone at night and stopped at a light.
My 1998 Dodge Grand Caravan I just traded in for the Outback had this feature so I was not in the habit of having to remember to lock my doors. I guess I expected all new vehicles to have all of these little features that my van had. I was surprised when I was test driving different vehicles how many new cars did not have some of the little things my van had.
When I test drove the 2010 Equinox, I was impressed that the doors locked automatically as soon as I put the vehicle in "drive".
Also, if the doors were to unlock automatically when the car was put in "park," it likely would be a non-issue, aside from extra wear and tear on the motors. Then again, I do not prefer automatics.....
My van does that.
Otherwise you reach for the door handle...and it won't open. :mad:
Darn technology, anyway.
I am not expecting an answer here, but what is the deal with Subaru offering Outback keys with integrated remotes, but still using separate keys and remotes for the Forester & Impreza lines? That is just silly.
My favorite key design is the "switchblade" style used by Audi and VW. It just looks like a fob, and then you press a little metal button and the key blade flips out. I suppose this is still not as cool as the keyless or smart-key types, but it's nice to have the key blade folded away when it is in your pocket.
Of course, I sure appreciated my '08 Outback keys with the integrated fob; I was surprised when my two-years-newer Forester came with separate units!
Though the Forester's laser cut keys would be MUCH harder to duplicate (for thieves).
We were lucky - our special-order Forester arrived in 5 weeks.
I wonder if the shortage is because they are trying to get the supplier to fix the poor outgoing bluetooth sound that has been reported?
After I initiate or receive a call, if I press the "speaker" button to send the audio back to the handset, and then press it again to return audio back through the nav speakers, callers on the other end report a major improvement in quality! Something with tearing down and reinitializing the bluetooth stream fixes the problem -- until the next call.
Heck there were even about 8-10 with the 3.6 engine.
One other thing, from an above post; "I'm not sure if they would sell me the package at the dealer invoice price. Plus, I'm not sure what the quality of dealer-installed options as opposed to factory-installed options would be."
There is a "Subie" website that has the parts at prices lower than the list, not as low as "invoice" though. I'm pretty sure that some high % of "accessories" are added at the dealer/distribution center with no drop off in quality. One thing that P's me off is that if you want the "homelink" and it gets installed there is no "delete option" credit given for the removed mirror. I guess at some point the dealers are sending those back to Lafayette for credit!
easypar
Bob
The dealer had no problem getting the combo I wanted right from the distribution center and then adding the "accessories" I wanted.
easypar
Problem is the Navi supplier cannot keep pace with demand.
I am surprised you are not considering the Forester XT instead. The XT's turbo would probably give you much better high altitude performance and the passenger space is almost the same as the Outback. The XT is slightly less expensive also.
Outback has 105.4cf.
Both without the moonroof. I think if you add that to both, the Outback would end up just a tad roomier.
Outback gets 256hp @ 6000 rpm, 247lb-ft torque@ 4400 rpm.
So the H6 makes more power, but a bit higher in the rev range. The turbo makes lots of low end torque, while the H6 likes to rev.
Drive 'em both, you'll probably have a clear preference.
Placed an order for Outback 3.6R Limited via SNE, November 19, haven't even got a confirmed build date yet - let alone a delivery date.
Dealer says he hopes it will be in his January allotment >> end of Jan/early Feb for me
It was reported the delivery takes 5 months from date of ordering.
Hey juice - I doubt the Forester was special ordered. It was most likely in the pipeline already. It takes 5 weeks just to transport a car from Japan.
As for suply - yeah it takes a while to adjust production. Ford is getting grief for making too many Taurus SE's. Looks like demand is for the SEL and SHO and they can't adjust fast enough.
It came EXACTLY as we ordered, though, even down to the accessories.
What lets Subaru be nimble is that the accessories are port installed, so that only has to be decided much closer to the arrival date of the car.
We wanted a PZEV in a specific interior and exterior color, plus we were very specific about which accessories would be on it. Subaru nailed it.
Plus they can always do last minute adjustment for what're popular options and accessories to be installed before shipping to distributors / dealers
Correct but it's not like they called the plant in Japan and ordered the car and you had it in 5 weeks. They found one for you. If they had to order it, it probably would've been more like 16-20 weeks.
As for the accessories, it's much like what Honda does - 3 to 5 trim levels and all accessories are dealer installed.