Chevrolet (Geo) Prizm

tbrooks74tbrooks74 Member Posts: 1
edited December 2013 in Chevrolet
Last October I purchased a 1999 Chevy Prizm... the
3-speed automatic (what was i thinking?).

Within one month I had to take the car back to the
dealer to have the windshield wipers fixed since
the wiper motor died on my way home from work... i
live in seattle, this was a BIG problem.

Tires... the tires the car came with may work just
fine if you live in a flat desert and never have
to stop quickly. During the rainy season, the
tires will start spinning mid-way up a hill! Let
alone all the squealing and sitting in one spot if
you try to start going up a hill when the roads are
wet. I've slid through many an intersection
because the tires simply won't hold the road...
it's not like i was going 60 and slammed on them
either.

Paint... you can actually chip it with your
fingernail. Several spots on my trunk have
discolored for no known reason.

Handling... forget about taking any sharp turns at
more than 10mph or you're gonna be in a ditch.

Power... this car has about as much oomph as a
slug. I can make it up the mountain passes at a
whopping 15mph... i realize this is partially my
fault for getting the 3-speed automatic.

Lights... for one thing, one of them seems to be
aimed to hunt for birds... taking it into the shop
for that next week... the lights illuminate about 5
feet in front of you, which is fine in the city
but very frightening out in the mountains with lots
of animals to jump out in the road.

Overall, I would not buy this car again if I could
turn back time. It's not a bad car, just not the
quality of car I feel I should get for the price.
If anyone else has had similar problems with their
prizm, I'd be interested to hear... feel free to
e-mail me at [email protected]
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Comments

  • regfootballregfootball Member Posts: 2,166
    bought a new Prizm in March. Zero problems. To address some of your comments....

    tires- Yes, cheap tires, but you could get a set of four good ones from the tire rack and then have them installed for total cost of about 200-250 bucks. Cheap car, cheap tires.

    paint- good paint job, but they probably did not put too many coats on. We'll see how it holds up. Does not have any flaws or orange peel.

    power- these days, virtually none of the cars in the 15 grand price range will have more than 120 horsepower. Any car in this range will feel undermotivated, especially with a 3speed automatic. My Prizm has a stick and actually feels quite lively and quick for a small car. The prizm motor is smoother and easier to drive (nice DOHC motor, yes it matters) than many cars in this price range, and should hold up a lot longer.

    Handling- could be quicker and more assured but i think part of it is the cheap tires.

    Lights- are your daytime running lights switching to full power at night? The full power lights are to come on automatically when you release the parking brake.

    Overall though, the car is quiet, rides nice, has nice dashboard and switchgear, and is better screwed together than a Cavalier or Neon, IMHO. You don't get much more than that for 15 grand these days, I'm afraid. Even most bigger cars like Grand Am's are over 20,000 now.
  • wenyuewenyue Member Posts: 558
    Maybe you should have gotten the Japanese brother of the Prizm. My 99 Corolla LE with security/keyless system(corolla top trim) has flawless paint job, 4-spd automatic is quiet and got tons of power if you are willing to rev the engine a bit (I rev the gears up to 4500 rpms some times for that kick in the back, most of the time, 3000 is my limit). My corolla LE comes with better tires too. :) Handling is ok, not great, I take my turns at about 20 mph with enough confidence thanks to the front and rear stablizer bars (but I can see how faster than 20 would be scary). My lights are first rate! Perfect set up with lots of illuminating power. All this and for $14317. Sorry, don't mean to rub it in.

    But I read reviews that said prizms's options are more expensive than the corollas, so in the end, a corolla could be cheaper than the prizm. Besides, on the Prizm, while the major components like the engine and power train may be Japanese parts, the small things like wind-shield wiper and door handles are GM parts. Quite frankly, I wouldn't trust GM stuff. Better pay the little extra money for genuine toyota finish and get that higher resale value. GM has that magical touch that ruins a car, even when 95% of it is already put together for them.
  • hfeng1hfeng1 Member Posts: 1
    Bought a 98 Prizm in Feb. 98. I read that the only
    difference between 98 and 99 are new paint colors so I figure it is OK here.
    My wife is the main driver of the car (it has a stick) and she likes it a lot. I like to drive it
    too primarily because the engine is so responsive
    (the automatic -- especially the 3 speed -- may not feel as responsive.) I live in the Silicon Valley and we don't have a lot of rain and slopes so it has been a pleasant, dependable commuter car for my wife.
    Recently I saw a local dealer ad about a new 99 base prizm selling at, after factory and dealer rebates, $9000!!! If I didn't already own one that is still pretty new and I know it will last me a long time, I would have certainly picked it up without hesitation.
  • mescherpmescherp Member Posts: 1
    1) The Corolla is not merely the Japanese brother of the car, instead almost all Corolla's (something like 90%) are made in the same US factory as the Prizm. (If the door frame sticker says "New United Motor Manufacturing Inc." or "NUMMI" it is a California made Corolla.) Neither has more or less Japanese or Domestic parts, (except for maybe the stero) as the factory is jointly owned.

    2) In the '98 model, front and rear stabalizer bars were avail. in the ridiculously "LSi handling package", up until about July, when they became standard. The front stab. bar was not avail. in the base level Corolla either.

    3) If you look under the hood of a Corolla, you will also see a mix of US and Japanese parts. (i.e. a Delco battery). The base level trim (CE in the case of the Corolla) of either model has chintzy interior componnents. The upper level trims are identical, except for color schemes, logos, and the center console. (To accmodate a GM-style stereo.) Once you pop open the hood, the cars are completely identical, with not a single GM part in sight, except for the battery.

    4) For the 3 vs. 4 spd. tranny: the 0-60 times are virtually identical. What that overdrive gear does for you is save some RPM's at high speed. If you look at the gear ratios, you will find that the three speed is geared for more torque on all three of it's gears.
  • wenyuewenyue Member Posts: 558
    I don't know excactly how many components are different in the corolla and prizm, but there are some.

    For an obvious example is the trunk. The trunk lid of the corolla and the prizm is styled and shaped differently.

    I think where most of the internal machinery is the same between the 2. Once the major machinary is put in, the corolla and the prism go their seperate ways to different side of the plant. Toyota uses their own body pannels and Chevy uses theirs. This is just a theory.
  • regfootballregfootball Member Posts: 2,166
    Mescherp (response 4) is entirely right.

    It's amazing to see where people's bias falls, even when the car is the same, but one car has a Chevy badge on it and the other has a Toyota badge. All of a sudden the Chevy is "evil" and the Toyota is where its at. Just cause the Prizm has the Chevy badge does not automatically mean it is a second class product.

    I suppose the Isuzu Rodeo is a piece of crap to most folks and the Honda Passport is all fine.
  • wenyuewenyue Member Posts: 558
    Chevy Prizm is 95% the same as corolla. And is a good car as far as those 95% (important stuff) is concerned. So it's a good car, that will keep you on the road for a very very very long time. But of the 5% stuff that chevy puts on, it's not the same quality as that of the corolla. Even though those 5% are just some minor un-essential components, they are more likely to fail and made things little annoying once in a while.

    Example, the trunk of the prizm is not the same as the corolla, so I wouldn't be supprised if more prizm owners have problems with their trunks in the long term than corolla owners. But again, as I said, all major components are toyota quality. So if one would be willing to take those occational annoiance into perspective, then the Prizm is undoubtably an good car, and by no means a second rated product. A second rated product would be the cavalier, well, maybe that would be the 3rd rated.
  • kpdaughertykpdaugherty Member Posts: 4
    My wife and I bought a new 99 Prism last month after 6 months of research. I can't tell your just how happy we are with this car. It is not an LSI but has many nice features including a $1500 rebate, CD player, cruise, and A/C. We love the 5 speed. 30 MPG around town and 38 on the highway. The fit and finish is outstanding. So far so good. I'll keep you posted as time goes on. I'm off on a 500 mile interstate trip next week. Well see just how it does in the mountains of West Virginia. I'm open to all [email protected]
  • cpzhangcpzhang Member Posts: 16
    I read sth that prizm will be stopped by GM pretty soon. Has anyone heared of this?
  • enetheneth Member Posts: 285
    Yes. Apparently, Toyota has plans to use the Fremont, California plant to assemble a new small SUV (perhaps the successor to the RAV4) in place of the Chevy Prizm.

    The Prizm has never sold as well as the Corolla, partly because of marketing, but then again, it has far ousold its reverse nationality counterpart (the Toyota Cavalier), which Toyota has had extreme trouble selling in Japan.
  • ohhohh Member Posts: 7
    I own '99 prizm and it is a wonderful car (ok I drove it for just 4 months) It's amazing how quiet and smooth the car is. Acceleration and stopping power are very good too and so is fuel efficiency. I just hate it when ppl tells me what a great car corolla is and gets confused my prizm with "metro" =(

    Anyways, from waht I know prizm and corolla are identical except for radio and rear of the car. They are both manufactured by very same ppl and machineries in the same plant. So ppl who thinks corolla's so much better than prizm are obviously biased against anything under "American" brand name.

    It is true that options on prizms are more expensive than corolla, not to mention invoice prices. I settled for prizm because of $1900 rebate and I bought one with minimal options (rear defogger, radio/cassettes,ac) without any extra options such as power window/door lock/mirror. Corolla's Value Packages would have saved me so much comapred to prizm.
    It was a tough choice but it made sense to get prizm over corolla with minimal options.
  • kbell2kbell2 Member Posts: 1
    I just recently purchased a 99 prism. sometimes
    i notice when i am driving down hills it feels
    like the car is pulling or trying to hold it self back. I assume thats the way the way the transmission is suppose to work. if anyone has any information or a similar experience please post it.
  • ammo5ammo5 Member Posts: 1
    This Month My other half Ended up Wrecking her 1989 Toyota Camry. I Suggested the Prizm Since I Sell them. She is a very hard sell. She Did not get an LSI, But She got the Big 5 Options, Power Widows, Power Doors, Air Conditioning, Auto Trans (3-spd), and Am/FM Cassette. Also Had Tilt and Cruise. For an MSRP of 15680. I think if you get any car with all that for under 16000 Sticker your doing OK She did a Smart buy on her car so she got a $450 Cap Cost Reduction and a 2.85% interest rate . She Loves the Car and 6 Months ago she told me that she would never buy an American Car. I Think that she did OK
  • ohhohh Member Posts: 7
    I used to drive '88 chevy corsica prior to '99 prizm. It had minimal problems and only had brakes,rotors, tires, belt,battery, spark plugs and transmission fluid during last five years(usual maintenance stuff)

    I noticed that prizm manual asks to "lubricate" chasis component and check air filter every 6months. Are these necessary? I don't think i did these things with '99 corsica.
  • ohhohh Member Posts: 7
    How is 3 speed on prizm? Does it engine becomes loud noticeably at high speed? (70+mph)
  • haulmehaulme Member Posts: 1
    We are considering a new prism for our daughter for school and work. Any comments pro/con would be appreciated.
  • regfootballregfootball Member Posts: 2,166
    Get the Prizm with manual transmission and save the 800 dollars money. Don't get the LSi with a lot of options; it gets too spendy that way too. Make sure you get the 70 dollar tachometer because it includes a really nifty outdoor temp. indicator. Oh, and get floor mats and splash guards too.

    pros- fairly smooth and powerful motor for a car its size. Good mileage. The car seems to be well built and that makes me feel confident its worth the money. The factory stereo is tolerable. Nice gauges. Simple controls. Looks good for a small car. Comfortable seats.

    Cons-ABS not standard as in Cavalier, a bit tight inside (all cheap cars are), lacks an armrest in front or folding rear seat (base model price range), needs wider tires and wheels as well as stiffer suspension. Could stand to be priced more in line with the Ford Escorts; that is to say about a thousand bucks cheaper.
  • cyancyan Member Posts: 1
    Pros: Great gas mileage; comfortable seats; huge glove compartment; smooth drive; efficient; relatively quiet interior; passenger side air bag is a good distance away.

    Cons: Leg room is terrible if you are 5'4 or over; driver side visor can block your view and is very stiff; exterior dents easily because it is plastic,if you drive behind semis or live in the country expect dings; tilt wheel is a joke, it moves, maybe an inch, if that much; the seat does not move back very far, if you have a spare tire or a larger middle, your stomach may touch the wheel and you sit very close to the air bag.

    Overall, it is a good car for someone who needs a fuel-efficient car. I prefer the Malibu's styling and size. The Cavalier has a lot less head room and does not drive as smoothly as the Prizm.

    Good Luck!!!
  • rrockeyrrockey Member Posts: 1
    Purchased a new 1999 Prizm recently and it seems like a good car except for a noisy Nippon Denso 80 amp alternator (generator). Dealership replaced it and although it's not as loud, it's still noisy!!! Maybe a heavy-duty alternator is available that would run with less noise??? Appears more noisy with added electrical load such as the daytime running lights or AC.
  • regfootballregfootball Member Posts: 2,166
    Yes, I've heard it....but the alternator whine goes away after a few months, gradually.......
  • squeak6squeak6 Member Posts: 28
    .... I have had my 98 Prizm since Sept.... and for the most part its been ok to me.... its a 5-speed with only a am/fm radio & AC.... no rear defogger... (thumbs down).... I always check the gas mileage and I get about 31 mpg... I thought I could get more.... I try to fill it up to the top I can get about 13 gals in the tank and get about 383 miles.... I have 35.5K miles and I started to hear a thump only when I start it... I took it to the dealer and he could not find anything wrong... they also said that the gas mileage was normal.... and yes the tires are very cheep... when I go on a road trip and it rains I can feel the front tires spinning... I guess if I get some new tires and some STP gas treatment It will be an ok car..... *** how could I get better gas mileage? ***
  • occupant1occupant1 Member Posts: 412
    I need to start a thread like this. I have 2 cars that I drive on a regular basis. One is a 1995 Geo Metro with automatic transmission (rated 30/34) and the other is a 1992 Dodge Dynasty V6 (rated 19/26). Here is how to improve your mileage.

    a) Take your readings in the same way every time. Go to the same gas station and use the same pump and let the auto-shutoff do its job. The second time, figure your mileage, miles driven divided my gallons used. This way you eliminate human and pump error. And never top off your tank anyway, it fills your EEC canister with liquid gasoline and can be expensive to replace.

    b) Accelerate smoothly. Note I did not say slowly. Get up to speed with traffic but don't do the watusi on your pedals. Ease your foot onto the accelerator. So what if the guy in front of you moves fifty feet away. You'll catch him at the next light anyway, or maybe not...read on...

    c) Brake smoothly. If you do it right you can coast to a slow roll as the light is red and then almost reach the car in front of you as the light turns green and traffic starts moving again. The less you use your brakes, the better your mileage will be.

    d) ALWAYS choose the highway over the city route. Your car will get the best mileage between 45-55mph on a flat surface in top gear. Period.

    e) Cruise Correctly. Do not step on the gas and let off to keep your speed. Touch the accelerator ever so lightly so that you keep it in overdrive (automatics) but not so lightly that you lose speed. Every time you move your foot the car compensates by adding more fuel or cutting it off. Try and keep your foot completely still.

    f) Reduce idling and turn A/C off. If it's summertime and the weather is fine, you can stretch right up and touch the sky...oops had to break into song. Idling uses about a gallon an hour, depending on engine size and type. A SOHC engine will use less fuel in an hour than a DOHC engine. A 2.0 liter engine will use less fuel in an hour than a 2.4 liter engine. But when they are moving, it changes everything. The A/C cuts 2-5mpg from your mileage, BUT having windows open at speed causes a greater drop than running the A/C.

    And tire pressure makes a difference along with hills, weather, and traffic. But the smoother you drive, the better your mileage will be. I can achieve 36mpg on the road in the Metro and 28 in the Dynasty because I drive smoothly. I get 24mpg in town in the Dynasty, way above the 19mpg city rating, because I try and coast as much as possible. Think...your car is moving, your engine is idling as if the car were still...it means great mpgs!
  • rbrown1040rbrown1040 Member Posts: 1
    hit a deer at 50mph, bounced off derr, rand down embankmet and hit tree. Still neither air bag deployed. anyone had simaliar??
  • cynthia83cynthia83 Member Posts: 7
    Hi about a week and a half ago I got a 99 Chevy Prizm (base not Lsi) and it has A/C, 3-spd Auto Trans, Cruise, Tilt, Rear Defog, AM/FM CD, and Power Locks. I don't know what all of you are gripping about, true I have only had it a short time but I can honestly say I LOVE my Chevy Prizm. It rides extremely smooth, accelerates good, gets good gas mileage, great cold a/c, wonderful braking and stereo system is really good for a small car. I call my car a mini Luxury sedan. I am only 16 and this is my first vehicle, but I think it is great. We got a pretty good deal on it too only paid $14,000 when it was all said and done and that includes TTL and a rebate from GM, the MSRP was almost $16,000 so I think we made out pretty good. Would love to hear from other Prizm owners, my email address is [email protected]

    -Cynthia
  • lkonglkong Member Posts: 1
    I have a 94 prizm with 3 speed transmission. It is definitly a reliable car. It had a noise in about the third month. Dealer relaced the some part in the exaust system. It goes away. I have 73 km on it now, just replaced the battery.
  • whiskey22whiskey22 Member Posts: 1
    Had a 1996 GEO Prizm, auto, 3-speed, mostly used by my wife (she drives little) on a 3 year lease. Just turned it in and these are the facts;
    Reliability: Excellent. Took it to the dealer only once-the windshield wipers quit out of the blue one day. Dealer replaced the motor. No other problemas after that.
    Performance: A punk on a skateboard might pass you.
    Handling: Good.
    Body Style: A microwave oven looks better.
    Quality and Finish: Very Good. Especially liked the steering wheel. It felt tight and comfortable. Interior was high in quality (for the type of car, of course). Good fit and finish.
    Other stuff: Avoid the 3-speed auto if youre a frequent highway driver. It is annoying. Other than that it was a good car.
  • jayson3jayson3 Member Posts: 1
    I had a chevy prism (96) it was a very dependable car , However the paint ( clear coat ) peeled off in many spots after 2 years. I waxed and washed this vehicles atleast monthly , so In conclusion I must say Chevy Paint Licks....
  • mstygarmstygar Member Posts: 1
    I bought my Prizm (95) used just six months ago and I am in love. The gas mileage is wonderful. Pick-up leaves a lot to be desired, but that's not why I bought the car. I havn't a single problem with anything on it. I hope this is the begining of a beautiful relationship.
  • cynthia83cynthia83 Member Posts: 7
    Ok, yea I was the one saying why are all of you gripping in post #24, but now I am starting to gripe. The tires, god are EXTREMELY cheap, go ahead, roll the windows down while you are turning, I don't think you should be hearing that noise when you turn....btu anyways.. I was wondering if anyone else with a 99 Prizm has had the check engine light come on??? Mine came on suddenly last night right after I started the car...please email me if anyone has any suggestions.. Ill be happy to tell the story more in detail... [email protected]
  • 39043904 Member Posts: 16
    My '99 Prizm has made a high-pitched, whine-like noise ever since I bought it. Dealer tells me this is normal?!?! Anyone else experiencing such a noise??
  • regfootballregfootball Member Posts: 2,166
    yes. it seems to be typical.

    Mine has diminished partially in about six months but has not gone away completely.

    I figure its either gear whine, alternator noise, or intake noise.

    but don't quote me on that.
  • wenyuewenyue Member Posts: 558
    There is a whine at about 3000-3500 rpms. This is not a problem. I read it somewhere that it's an harmonic effect. It would appear that at 3000-3500 rpms, the vibration of the engine comes into resonance, and it sound like whine.

    Break-in will help to reduce the amount of the resonance, but probably won't totally get rid of it. Since the engine should only be at about 26-2800 rpms even at 80 mph, the whine should only appear during acceleration, most typically between the 2nd-3rd gear.

    cythia:

    if the engine light comes on, take it to a dealer without delay.
  • cpzhangcpzhang Member Posts: 16
    Anyone knows? I am seriously considering one.
  • 130130 Member Posts: 7
    When does the whining occur? At low speed? When the engine is cold?

    My 99 Prizm whines when the engine is cold, at speeds between 10-40 mph.
  • wenyuewenyue Member Posts: 558
    Like I said, the engine is likely to whine at 3000-3500 rpms. It's some sort of a resonance-harmonic effect.

    It's more likely to whine when it's cold. Small part is because all engine are noisier when cold. The big part is because, the toyota engine is programed to have an higher idle speed when it detects the engine is cold. The reason behind the higher idle rpm (1500-2000 rpm compared to the normal 500-600 rpms) is because it warms up the engine faster. Cold engine produce the most engine wear, and so by programing it to warm up faster is designed to help it last longer. But that also means it's much easier for one to reach the 3000-3500 rpm resonance frequency. That's why whines more when cold.

    hope I was of help.

    cpzhang

    The current corolla/prizm will be redesigned in 2002. So any model sold between 1998-2002 will essentially be the same, with only minor changes. But the 2000 corolla get's a better VVt-i DOHC engine, rather than the normal DOHC in the 98 and 99. So right now may be the best time to buy.
  • cpzhangcpzhang Member Posts: 16
    Thx Wenyue. I heared Toyota will use the Prizm/Corolla factory to manufacture a new small SUV, which will eventually stop the Prizm production in the near future. So I want to know if 2002 is the last year for Prizm? I have GM card and still want to accumulate more points before I buy one.
  • wenyuewenyue Member Posts: 558
    hmmm... I haven't heard any news about Toyota plan to unveil a new small SUV. But you maybe right. But I have no info on when will they discontinue the Prizm. But I don't think they will do it at least until after 2002, when the current model is due for a redesign. Isn't that enough time to accumulate enough points? :)
  • 39043904 Member Posts: 16
    The whinning noise I originally spoke of is most noticeable when accelerating from a complete stop. Once the road/wind noise reach a certain level, you can no longer hear it. The day time running lights, AC, or any added electrical load only worsen the whine. I've had the alternator checked at an independent shop and it's not the source of this noise. The noise is no worse when the engine is cold...I first noticed it in July in mid-90 degree temperatures. My experience suggests that this noise is most noticeable at far less than 3000 rpms but barely perceptible at idle. My '99 Prizm has over 4,000 miles on it and was purchased in July. I've yet to notice any reduction in the noise level. If this noise is due to some sort of resonance-harmonic effect, shouldn't the dealership or Chevrolet be aware of it and welcome the opportunity to pass it off as "normal engine noise???"

    By the way, I contacted both NUMMI and Chevrolet via email regarding this problem. Both appear very hesitate to provide me with a straight answer. It almost sounded like they built (NUMMI) and marketed (GM) the car, yet expected the dealership to fix their mistakes and/or design errors!!!
  • 130130 Member Posts: 7
    I have the exact same whining problem with my 99 Prizm, also bought in July. I took it to the Chevy dealer and the mechanic said that it was normal air rush noise. I don't believe it since my father has a 98 Prizm and there's no whining at all.

    I noticed that the whining tends to be less noticeable when the engine is warm and at speeds over 40 mph.

    I know a guy who has a 99 Corolla and his car also whines...
  • 39043904 Member Posts: 16
    I, like you, certainly wouldn't buy the "normal air rush noise" story because my Prizm will make this noise even if I accelerate the engine while the car's in neutral. As a matter of fact, this was how the dealership first identified the noise prior to road testing it. Like I mentioned earlier, engine temperature, warm or cold, doesn't seem to affect the noise level I'm hearing in my Prizm. At speeds of or over 40 mph, it's difficult for me to hear due to exterior road/wind noise, however, the noise is most likely still there...maybe at a different (higher) pitch???
  • 130130 Member Posts: 7
    So what are you going to do about it? Can you take it to another dealer? I already took mine to 3 different Chevy dealerships and they didn't do anything about it although I told them that my father's 98 Prizm , basically the same car, doesn't whine at all...
  • tjlchantjlchan Member Posts: 1
    I just bought a 98 Prizm 98 LSI and notice the same "engine noise" -- sound like alternator bearing ... The Hertz (where I bought it) and Chevy dealer claimed that they are normal for this kind of engine!!
  • 130130 Member Posts: 7
    If the noise is normal then why don't all 98 & 99 Prizms make it? My father has a 98 and there's no noise at all.
  • cynthia83cynthia83 Member Posts: 7
    My 99 Chevy Prizm doesn't whine so it can't be "normal" since not all of them make the noise... only problem with my Prizm has been the check engine light... It came on last friday and I tried the gas cap trick and it fixed it after 3 starts, but yesterday it came back on and tried the gas cap trick and this time it didn't work so she is going to the dealership in the morning, will post more info about what they say to try and help out anyone who may encounter this problem.... but there has been no whinning noise in my car...
  • squeak6squeak6 Member Posts: 28
    .... what is the gas cap trick..? how do you do it?....***
  • ThamsterThamster Member Posts: 2
    Have a 98 Prizm LSi with about 15K on it. No whining at all, so any dealer who tells you that it's normal is BSing.

    However, the seat belt light doesn't go off when the seat belt is fastened, unless the belt is pulled out almost all the way. Anyone had this problem?

    There is also a weird budge on the right rear passenger door that is causing the paint to crack. Of course, the dealer said that is cause by something hitting the door, even though it budging out from the inside. An non-dealer body shop said no way was it caused by a collusion.

    Oh, if anyone wants to make their Prizm a little more sporty, check out the Prizm spoilers at www.sportwing.com. They will even prepaint the spoiler to match the factory paint.
  • ThamsterThamster Member Posts: 2
    wenyue wrote:

    >I think where most of the internal machinery is
    >the same between the 2. Once the major machinary
    >is put in, the corolla and the prism go their
    >seperate ways to different side of the plant.
    >Toyota uses their own body pannels and Chevy >uses theirs. This is just a theory.

    You should talked like you know what's going on if it's "just a theory". I believe they are actually made on the same line, with some ordered to be Corollas, and some finished as Prizms.

    >Example, the trunk of the prizm is not the same >as the corolla, so I wouldn't be surprised if >more prizm owners have problems with their >trunks in the long term than corolla owners.

    Haha, only the sheet metal is different, and only in styling. The mechanical is the same. I am not sure, but I would venture the sheet metal is made at the same place by the same people.
  • wenyuewenyue Member Posts: 558
    True, it's just a theory. But Corolla is built using toyota assembly line technology, and using toyota technitians. This is a fact, it's publcised and advertised by Toyota for their corolla. But I don't know if same is applied to the Prizm. It might very well be, but I wouldn't be so sure. I stated to that effect.

    And also, I said the trunk and many body pannels are different which is obvious by plain sight. I did not know or state exactly which parts are different. Do you know? Do you have a list of parts for the corolla and prizm? I wouldn't presume to say exact parts are the same unless you can show it.
  • 63627666362766 Member Posts: 5
    Hi, I just bought a 99 Prizm. I used GM card
    points and the rebate. I am happy with the price
    and all. But I was thinking. I probably drive
    this car for another 5-10 years depending when
    it dies. I have a long commute everyday from
    home to work. (Each year, I would put on about
    18K+.) So, I'll probably have to buy another
    car in the future. I saw messages going around
    about MAYBE Toyota won't make Prizm anymore. Can
    anyone confirm this for sure? Or can someone
    tell me where I can get a more definite info? I
    understand, maybe there is no way to know. I just
    want to know if I should continue collecting
    points with GM card or forget about it.
    Any advice would be appreciated.
    Thank you.
  • pinghupinghu Member Posts: 1
    Actually Prizms (and some Corollas) are built by the joint venture of Toyota and GM in California. I read from last Sunday Chicago Tribune and Toyota's CEO stated that they wanted to increase the production there. What they want is to build some SUVs that implied that they're going to get rid of Prizm.

    I ordered a 2000 Prizm a week ago in order to cash in my GM card points. I started to accumulate them seven years ago hoping that GM would produce some cars I like. Now I still could only find the Prizm worth to buy after seven years. So I'm not going to use my GM card any more. In fact, if I did not have those GM card points, I wouldn't buy the Prizm either. I could buy a Corolla with options I want (PS,PL,ABS and split rear seats etc.) for $400 less. This also takes into account the $1K rebate from GM. In addition, Corolla's resale value is typically $1K higher than Prizm. So I don't want to be trapped by GM again.
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