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Your right. In the PowerTrain Warranty section they define "Original Owner". I will include only the relevant:
ORIGINAL OWNER
Original Owner is defined as the first retail purchaser of the vehicle and their immediate family members (i.e. wife,husband,son,daughter,stepson,stepdaughter),who took delivery of the automobile on its date of first use.
This warranty is not transferable to any subsequent owner. Subsequent owners have powertrain components covered under the 60 month/60,000 mile Hyundai New Vehicle Limited warranty. The 10 year/100,000 mile Powertrain Limited Warranty also excludes coverage for vehicles placed in commercial use (i.e taxi,route delivery livery service,rental,etc).
Does that mean you will be replacing it with a new car for yourself? Just curious as to what you are looking at as you have good taste when it comes to cars
I won't be getting a new car for myself now for another 2.5-3 years. It will be a long-term car that I will hand down to my daughter. The new Elantra is in the mix, but I will look closely at the B-car class also (Fit, Accent, Versa being the top 3 contenders right now).
We just bought my wife a new car last month, so I inherited her '02 Elantra to serve as my daily driver. The Elantra now has 75K miles on it and has not yet become problematic, but she is a nurse and works downtown so this means she goes to work at weird hours, and drives through some rougher areas during her commute. Basically, it boils down to having more peace of mind with her driving a lower mileage car.
The Elantra had the timing belt, 60K service, and tranny flushed at 60K miles. I just put new rotors and brakes all the way around back in November, along with new tires. My plan is to use it as my daily driver, and drive it until it dies. My commute is on country roads, so if I break down it won't be in an unsafe area. We also own an '03 Mitsubishi Outlander with 38K miles on it that I have had for a couple of years. It is AWD, and I bought it with 10K miles on it (got a really good deal), so we are just going to drive it during bad weather, and use it for traveling. I am really interested in seeing just how long this Elantra will last with us taking good care of it.
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2007 Hyundai Elantra. Hyundai continues its attack on the big hitters with the next gen Elantra it claims is "substantially roomier" than both the Honda Civic and Toyota Corolla and even outdoes Acura TL. Elantra sits 2.2 inches higher and two inches wider, which also boosts trunk capacity to 14.2 cubic feet. All that space makes this little runabout a midsize car, according to the EPA. Power comes from a 2.0 liter four with 138hp and 136 lb-ft. Elantra increases its value by offering six standard airbags, antilock brakes and front seat active head restraints. The car will be at dealers this fall.
I think it's interesting that the press is making a big deal out of the mid-sized classification of the 2007 Elantra. Shoot, the 2001-6 Elantra was rated a mid-sized car based on interior room too! However, the 2007 is even roomier. I wonder how much of the room will work its way to the back seat leg area? Another inch or so there would be great, although the old car is no slouch there.
The other thing that I wonder about is, except for the unusually large interior and some unique styling cues, the 2007 Elantra doesn't seem to have anything that its competition does not. And it falls short from its competition in some areas. Perhaps the combination of ride, room, warranty, and value will be enough to stand out in the class.
then again, I think the new 2door Accent GT should have the 2.0L engine.
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
Depending on your family, you may want to just skip the changing of names on the title.
No matter, though--I will just retain ownership of the car until the powertrain warranty is used up. Insurance costs are much cheaper that way, also.
But, you can't expect too much from a company that adds rear disc brakes and calls it a GT. LOL
The Korean's are just too conservative in the hp and mpg dept to be anything but 4th best in the US market.
They can't keep raising prices without coming up with a "must have car". Value and reliability only goes so far.
But hey, you get those cool purple gauges!
But don't forget those neat foglights, and the blackout grille, and the alloys, and that GT badge, and the special floormats! And on my '04, I got the Kenwood MP3 stereo with the tiny buttons too.
You know what I would love in a GT? Not more power so much as an ability to slalom like a Mazda3. Give me handling.
Have you done that mod, backy? I can highly recommend it.
As you may remember I also looked at the Suzukl Reno. I go over to a Suzuki Reno forum once in a while still, and they have some guy pitching similar bars. I think it takes their rear bar from 14.6 mm stock up to 19.5 mm for his bar. But the surprising thing is their front sway bar is only 18 mm and his bar is 23. The stock front bar on my GLS hatch is already 24 mm (I measured it).
On the other hand, don't go crazy: I know of a couple of cases of people putting 22 mm aftermarket rear bars on Elantras and tearing the mounting tabs off their struts :surprise:
The 2007 Elantra body stiffness is up 49 percent from the outgoing model and nine percent over Corolla. Significant increases in body stiffness levels allowed Hyundai engineers to deliver a dynamic package that left little to compromise during the shock and bushing tuning phases. The result is precise steering and handling and a well- controlled, yet comfortable ride. By improving body rigidity and applying an optimized door sealing strategy, Hyundai engineers successfully reduced road noise two decibels below a comparably equipped 2006 Honda Civic based on internal testing.
http://www.hyundaiusa.com/abouthyundai/news/2006_04_13/2006_04_13.aspx
17.0 mm rear stabilizer bar, which is larger than its predecessor’s by 5.0 mm
Actually, the stock bar on XD GLS sedan is 13 mm, and 15 mm on hatch and GT models. So the claim of 5 mm increase isn't really accurate. The 03 Tibby GT bar is 19 mm. I wonder if it will fit the HD? It would still be a noticeable improvement I bet (56% stiffer by my quick calculation).
What caught my attention was the increase in body stiffness. The 5 door would be more prone to body flex by virtue of the larger rear opening, but the '02 sedan I owned seemed pretty dog-gone tight. I just hope they don't get caught in the catch-22 BMW did several years ago. One of their sedans was touted as having incredible body stiffness and integrity. Unfortunately, during crash tests most of the dummies "died" because so much of the crash forces were passed on to the occupants.
A little crumple here and there is a good thing!
Have you heard from isell lately? How is his boy doing?
Thanks
My wife's father bought her our '02 Elantra new back in November of '01. She was finishing school, and needed a new car. Her family have always been Honda people, and she was driving a high mileage Civic at the time. Her dad had read a lot about how far Hyundai had come with the "new" (at the time) Elantra, and bought it for her to serve as the guinea pig.
My wife has now been out of school for a while now, and has a new car that she is driving. The Elantra has 75K miles on it, and is serving as a third car that I am using as my daily driver, and as our "errand car".
Since we didn't initially pay anything ourselves for the car (since her dad bought it for her), I decided to figure up what exactly the car had cost us just from service and maintenance (insurance and taxes excluded). I would like to hear some from some other owners as to what your Elantras have cost you over the time you have owned them, and then I will share what my cost of ownership has been so far.
OK I will bite on this one. I would say about $2,000 or so in repairs and maintenance. Of that $200 was for a fuel sensor (replaced at 131K), the rest was routine maintenance (oil changes, tune ups, brakes and the like). Thats with 135K on the car.
Under warranty an exhaust manifold was replaced at 131K miles. Other than that the wagon has been great.
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
Keep in mind, my wife paid for the 7,500 and 15,000 service before we got married - which I would not have paid for.
We had the spark plugs replaced every 30K (twice), along with the wires at 60K. The auto tranny was flushed twice at 30K intervals. We had the timing belt service done at 60K, and the drive belts replaced. I have purchased 2 sets of tires - 1 set at 27K (the OEM tires wore unevenly), and the second set at 70K. Front brake pads were replaced at 35K and at 70K. Also at 70K, I bought new front rotors, and later found out the drum brake cylinders were leaking, so I had them replaced, along with the rear brake shoes, and a brake fluid flush.
I have also paid for several alignments and tire balances due to my wife's tendency to hit curbs and pot holes. We have also had the parking brake adjusted 3 or 4 times from her forgetting and driving to work with it on. 3K oil change intervals and 6K tire rotation intervals are also included in this. Also included are 4 years worth of $30/yr state inspection fees.
The altenator and battery went out at 50K. We paid for the battery (a pro-rated amount), and the altenator was covered. The throttle position sensor went out at 50K, but was covered.
Anyway...I am sure I am forgetting some other things, but I tallied up about $3800.
Tire rotations are free if you do them yourself. The OEM tire lasted about 60K which amazed me considering that here was an awful lot of gravel roads under them.
I did real good with the brakes even went 130K on the back ones.
When you replaced the plugs and wires did you do them or did you pay for that? Doing some things yourself can save you some bucks.
Also how many miles do you have on yours?
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
We have paid to have all of the maintenance done. Car maintenance is just something I don't enjoy doing (besides washing and waxing - i like doing that).
I love doing gardening/landscaping and home repair/remodeling, so I save a lot of money doing stuff like that around my house - and would rather spend my free time doing that sort of thing.
"Also how many miles do you have on yours?"
Currently has 75K.
Now my '04 Elantra GT (18k), that has been really cheap! I negotiated for 3 years of maintenance when I bought it, and that has covered everything except a new light bulb (after 12k), a couple of $25 oil changes (I do them more frequently than the service coupons specify), and some new wiper blades. Also I had a few hundred bucks expense recently because my wife ran into a curb (hard) in a snowstorm and I had to pay the deductible plus I decided to go ahead and replace the tires, since it would be almost the same price as buying two OEM tires. But that isn't maintenance. My coupons will last until 37,500 miles, which should be another 2.5-3 years.
I originally said that my total was @ $3800. Looking back, almost $1000 of that was spent at 70K for front brakes and rotors, rear brake shoes and drum brake cylinders, brake fluid flush, new tires, and an alignment. The rear brake shoes had about 30% left to them, but the shop offered to replace them while they were in there, and charged me no labor - just parts since they were in there replacing the brake cylinders anyway.
In addition, about $800 was spent at the 60K mark when we had the timing belt, drive belts, 60K service, and auto tranny flush performed.
$800 seems a lot for the belts and tranny service. My dealer wanted about $450 for all the belts, my mechanic did all the belts and front and rear brakes for about $650-$700.
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
They did front pads and rotors. They did the rear shoes, along with the rear wheel cylinders. Yes, the shoes did have about 30% left on them, but as I stated earlier, I just bought the shoes, and they put them in with no labor charge since they were already in there to replace the cylinders. Now, I "shouldn't" have to worry about the rear brakes ever again.
"$800 seems a lot for the belts and tranny service. My dealer wanted about $450 for all the belts, my mechanic did all the belts and front and rear brakes for about $650-$700"
Also as I stated earlier, this $800 included the 60K service which included coolant flush, spark plugs, power steering flush and some other things....Not just the belts and tranny service.
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
Yes but the rear brake drum should not need replacing if the shoes have 30% of their wear left. If they did there is something else wrong. I am also curious about the rotors now.
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
The only things replaced in the rear drum brakes were the shoes. Yes they did have about 30% left to them, but they had the drums disassembled to replace the cylinders (that were leaking), so I paid simply for the cost of the shoes to have them replaced.
In terms of the front rotors, even after the new tires and alignement, there was a bit of a shimmy present. I had the rotors replaced when the pads were done, and the shimmy went away.
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
I consider them as an option. In the cases where they are competitive, I use them, when they're not, I don't. If you look at the $400 for a 60k service, a lot of that is for things I can either do myself, or "inspections" that are often done with every oil change at a decent dealer or service center. If I can get a good package deal that is cheaper the a la carte items I can do myself plus the ones the dealer has to do (I'm not messing with a tranny fluid change or timing belt), then I'll use the dealer.
The key is to be able to check the boxes in the maintenance schedule for the last amount of money.
I have noticed an increase in road noise being transferred into the cabin through the right rear of the vehicle (trunk) when I drive over bumps at low speeds. The noise is coming from the rear passenger side, but I am kind of thinking it might possibly be due to deterioration of that rear strut.
Just curious if you have noticed any similar increase in road noise as yours has gotten older.