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  • berkelyblueberkelyblue Member Posts: 9
    How noticible is the difference in road noise between the camry and the accord? I don't really know what they are talking about with the term road noise, is it bumps and ditches, or just general sound decibles?? I've nevered own a Camry before, and read from a previous post that the Camry's audio system is better...How? I have the 6 speaker(count the two little ones in the front) with single cd system, it's got good bass(although midrange could get some work) and it can pump the music out really LOUD!! Is the ride on the accord better than the camry??
  • dcfelladcfella Member Posts: 31
    Just got my 2001 accord v6 EX coupe about 2 weeks ago. so far, so good. I don't really notice much road noise when i drive and there's definitely not any vibrations. Overall i'm really happy with it. I've seen other people post on the price of the spoiler...you definitely should NOT pay more than 475 installed. Anything over that is just the dealer juicin ya for more money. I personally think the accord spoiler is only ok in appearance...try getting a spoiler from other companies, such as wingswest..they've got much cooler spoilers for a good price.
  • dcfelladcfella Member Posts: 31
    Anyone know what company the stock audio system in the accord is made by?
  • edwardsa1edwardsa1 Member Posts: 34
    I believe all the Honda sound system head units are made by Alpine. Of course, that does not imply that the quality of the speakers is up to Alpine standards, and the Accord system has a fairly modest 60-watt amp.
  • hbund216hbund216 Member Posts: 162
    Hi, I have a 5 speed 2000 Accord. The other day I was stopped at a red light, with my wipers were set on the lowest intermittent setting. I began to pump my break pedal ever time the wipers would come back to a rest. Oddly enough the wipers would wipe once I pumped the break ( once they would rest I would press the breaks and let go). If I stopped pumping they would work at the correct interval. Does this happen to anyone else?
  • markz2kmarkz2k Member Posts: 112
    Yeah, I just noticed that on mine. In intermittent mode, it will make one sweep almost every time I release the brake pedal. Mine's a '00 EXV6.
  • auburn63auburn63 Member Posts: 1,162
    If I remember right on the lowest setting they will wipe faster as your speed is increased so maybe the brake switch works as an input when the brake is released for that.
  • fritz1224fritz1224 Member Posts: 398
    I'm sure there's some relationship with the amount of vacuum being generated or used. When you pump the brake there's vacuum involved and when you accelerate you can produce. How this all inter-relates I haven't a clue. But it's probably normal. Maybe honda figured that when you slow down you're a much easier target for rain drops and more likely to need a swipe.
  • fritz1224fritz1224 Member Posts: 398
    Another example of Honda's user friendly features. My tank still has about 3 gallons left when the low fuel lights up. They give you plenty of leeway to procrastinate getting fuel. Does everyone else have this same safety feature? :)
  • ronzgotkronzgotk Member Posts: 1
    Has anyone had problems due to the thin sheet metal of Honda Accords? I called a guy that does paintless dent repair to try to remove a small dent. He said that a lot of Japanese cars have sheet metal that is too thin to remove dents by this method, and they must be done by a body shop using bondo.
  • hbund216hbund216 Member Posts: 162
    I would like to thank everyone for their input on the wiper issue. Eases worries about electrical problems.

    Fritz1224, my fuel gauge does the same thing. Mine is at 4 gallons. It's normal for Accords.
  • dcfelladcfella Member Posts: 31
    I noticed my fuel gauge lights up pretty early too...not sure how many gallons are left when it initially lights up though. Any accurate numbers?
  • carguy62carguy62 Member Posts: 545
    My '89 Accord actually states in the manual how the light operates. I'm sure it is still pretty close to the way the current Accords behave. I believe it was something like (sic) "the low fuel indicator will glow steadily when there are 3.2 gallons left, when the needle is on E there are 1.8 gallons left." I don't think my '01 listed this in the manual, but I may be wrong.
  • fritz1224fritz1224 Member Posts: 398
    Yeah, I think the sheet metal is thin. About a month after I got my 2k lx I got a ding while I was sitting in the car parked in a parking lot. I took it to a guy called "The Dent Doctor" and he was able to remove it by using a long tool (like a slim jim) to manipulate the dent back out. No matter how close you look, there's no dent there. Of course, this was in the door and I'm sure the location of the dent has some bearing on how it can be removed, but using bondo on a small dent seems excessive and probably obsolete in quality body shops. It cost me $45.00 to get mine fixed.
  • kc_flynnkc_flynn Member Posts: 45
    Big snow storms up here in Massachusetts. My '99 Accord LX 5 speed handled the snow like a champ over the past few days. One of the best cars I've ever had at handling the snow.
  • eelmassianeelmassian Member Posts: 4
    I'm looking to lease a 2001 Accord and was wondering if anyone knew of a good dealer in Orange County CA.

    Thanks
  • markz2kmarkz2k Member Posts: 112
    I bought mine from Fladeboe Honda in the Irvine auto center. The Internet/Leasing rep is Doug Obando, and he's given me very good service, and a great price. Tell him MarkZ sent you. His direct number is 949-231-1043.
  • eelmassianeelmassian Member Posts: 4
    Markz

    Thanks alot of the info. I'll give him a call
  • enternamehereenternamehere Member Posts: 42
    Are you using snow chains? My 2k EX i4 didn't do so well in the slippery wet snow that arrived in the NE, as most would find. Seems fine in in the fluffy stuff though.
  • jfairclothjfaircloth Member Posts: 8
    I am considering trading in my '94 Civic and moving up to the Accord. It's mind-boggling how many different models they offer. I've been looking at the LX V6 sedan and the EX V6 sedan. The only obvious difference seems to be the alloy wheels, leather interior and sunroof. Are they worth the extra $3000 or so? Also, I can't tell if these two models come with automatic transmission as part of their standard package. Anyone with experience with either car that they would care to share?
    Thanks!
  • faddahfaddah Member Posts: 4
    My new '01 LX-V6 is being delivered tomorrow. The V-6 only comes with automatic. For me, the sunroof, alloys, and leather are unecessary. Leather + an 8 yr old & 6yr old = disaster!
    Will especially enjoy the TCS here in Michigan.
    Also, there is special financing on V-6 Accords.

    faddah
  • ral2167ral2167 Member Posts: 791
    yes-- go with the LX-- they should deduct from the cost of a car if it comes in leather, not add...

    then again, honda is lame cause if you want a moonroof, gotta go with an EX....this is where toyota solara has it over the honda-- you can get a V6, cloth seats, moonroof, 5 speed-- really get the car the way you want it much better than honda's LX and EX trim/take it or leave it versions. nuts you say? hardly
  • hbund216hbund216 Member Posts: 162
    EX comes with standard ABS and 4 disc breaks.
  • carguy62carguy62 Member Posts: 545
    Some other notable differences between the LX V6 and EX V6 include the climate control (fully auto on the EX) and the 6 disc CD changer (std. on EX). Is the EX worth $2700 more? Only you can decide that. Go to Honda's website, it will make the differences much clearer.

    Regarding models and trim lines, in my opinion Honda does it better than just about any other manufacturer including Toyota. The others make you wade through options and option packages to equip the car the way most people would want it. Honda makes it pretty simple, three trim lines (DX, LX and EX), with less and less options as you move up. Compare that with the Camry or any GM vehicle and the difference becomes clear. Even Edmund's review of the Camry mentions the option packages.
  • dc18dc18 Member Posts: 6
    Does anyone know what the top speed is for a '00 Accord LX w/2.3 vtech and auto? I had my up to 105 mph and it was still pulling strong.
  • joebtjoebt Member Posts: 7
    Just bought a 01 LX the my daughter call Blue Angle Blue. The dealer tried to sell my a paint protection package, say the paint on this car isn't as good as it was on my 89LXi. What is the truth, and what kind of wax should I use on it, and how long, if at all, should I wait before its first wax job. Thanks...
  • jdog3jdog3 Member Posts: 1
    Does anyone have any information about changes to the sheet metal and a possible larger engine on the 2002 Accord V6? I think Accord is due for a design change this year and would appreciate any information as to sites that may have previews. When will it be available?
  • markz2kmarkz2k Member Posts: 112
    The Accord gets re-designed next year, for 2003. The Camry gets the re-design this year, the 2002's will be out in the fall. The '01 Accord just got a re-styling and feature upgrade. (about 2 months after I got my '00!) Doubt there will be much change to the 02's.
  • vinneyvinney Member Posts: 43
    F Y I the lx v-6 comes with 4 wheel discs brakes and possible abs which I'm not sure.
  • enternamehereenternamehere Member Posts: 42
    I have read earlier posters say 133 mph. I have had mine up to 110 mph with no problem at all. You must take note though, that most of the speedo's in the Accords are off by close to 10%. 133=120, 110=99 and 105=95MPH

    And yes, the odometer is of as well 30 MPG = 27 MPG, 200,000 miles = 180,000 miles

    Apparently it's within government specs. Seems like poor quality to me though.
  • asdxereasdxere Member Posts: 29
    Paint protection packages are "junk options". Paint problems are covered under warranty. While it may be true that paint is worse on newer models, IMHO it's because of cost cutting measures by the auto industry. I had a paint problem with a 1997 Cavalier and a 2000 Civic. All covered under warranty. Car dealers will try to sell you "paint-protection packages" and "undercoating". PASS on them EVERYTIME. BTW, I believe you are not supposed to wax a car for the first 90-days the paint is on the vehicle... Enjoy your car !
  • cjb10350cjb10350 Member Posts: 6
    what's the going rate for a 30,000 mile checkup. my dealer wants about $500. my lease is up next month; can i just ignore this or will the lease company come and get me?
  • fritz1224fritz1224 Member Posts: 398
    Is this really true? Where did you find this at? So the 20 mpg city driving is actually only 18? That's a little hard accept. Driving known distance and then comparing that to the odo would be an easy way to test this. Hiway mileage markers would probably be an accurate scale to use.
    I found out my speedo was off about +7%(assuming the car I was following had an accurate one) Mine was reading 65 and his was 60.
    But I thought someone had once posted that this difference didn't carry over to the odo. I can work with mentally adding mph to my speedo, but I can't compensate for actually using more gas than what my odo tells me.
  • auburn63auburn63 Member Posts: 1,162
    The odometers have to be and are calibrated in a more precise manner than the speedometers.The odometers are very rarely off more than 1% with most being on the money.
  • fritz1224fritz1224 Member Posts: 398
    I haven't seen many posts from you lately. Glad to see you're still here.
  • bidandsellbidandsell Member Posts: 43
    They both get their signal from the same sensor. So how can one be accurate and the other be inaccurate? Just wondering.
  • joebtjoebt Member Posts: 7
    asdxere, thanks for the info, nice to find a place with good information.
  • enternamehereenternamehere Member Posts: 42
    You would have read back about a year or so ago. There were alot of postings from various testers regarding the speedo and odometer mis-calibrations. I have since accepted the fact that neither are accurate. I would prefer accuracy though.
  • auburn63auburn63 Member Posts: 1,162
    The same sensor does send a signal to several components including the odometer, speedometer and PCM. How each component translates the signal and or how acurate the component is calibrated is where the differance comes in.Example the PCM which is getting the same signal, has always read on the scan tool as 2-3 mph lower than the speedometer on the dash.Just as it is possible for the speedometer to stop working and or read 90mph while actually doing only 20mph, yet the odometer and PCM signals still be functioning properly.
  • enternamehereenternamehere Member Posts: 42
    I will believe this after I test it out myself. As previously mentioned, this was discussed awhile back and there was mutual agreement between all parties that both the speedo and odo were off by the same. One person escalated the problem and was told it was within government spec.
  • soberssobers Member Posts: 496
    It is not true that same signal is used to calculate mph and actual miles. Miles travelled is calculated by the number of rotations the front wheel does, multiplied by the Circumferrence 2*pi*r of the wheel. Speedometer errors are caliberation errors of the intrument. i.e the weight of the needle & other parts needs to be 'moved'. Odometer is as accurate as it gets.

    Count on that guys !! odo is always right except you change wheels & put bigger wheels & don't do the caliberation. i.e civics having 17-18 inch wheels would show lesser mileage than actual travelled.
  • enternamehereenternamehere Member Posts: 42
    sobers,
    Do you drive an Accord and have you tested your odo for accuracy? Is this method of tracking miles "real" (sounds like Detroit) or just general theory you are referring to?
  • kelfkelf Member Posts: 83
    is it true that Accord is going to offer a station wagon for next year, or are they waiting for the next redesign???
  • wyyangwyyang Member Posts: 29
    I've just bought a new 2001 Honda Accord LX yesterday. It had 102 miles on it out the door and later I found the window sticker reads 09/2001. Carfax said it was in dealer inventory since 09/2000. Does this suggest a problem, since the dealer can not sell this car for half a year? Or I am over-sensitive and this is normal? Besides, the manual says 300-500 miles break-in, is it bad that it had been test-driven for 102 miles already?

    Thanks,
  • qsmoothqsmooth Member Posts: 10
    hello fellow honda accord owners. it is i, qsmooth, again. haha. anyways, let me cut to the chase. a couple of weeks ago, i noticed in my 2000 5 speed 4 door Accord LX, a clicking and a light knocking sound. now i know it cannot be the cv-joints or the boots, or yet alone the axel. it just can't. it's a brand new car. i took it to the dealer for a test drive to see if they can detect what the sound was. he didn't even sit in the car with me and i was describing the problem to him, and he immediately said that it was either the cv-joints, boots or the axels. i guess he assumed this because my car is lowered about 1 and 3/4 from stock. does anyone know what the sound may be? are there any other fellow accord drivers that are experiencing this problem. the sound goes away, but it comes back here and now, especially during traffic. but at any rate, i would like some of your comments on this situation. i want to get it resolved as quickly as possible. thanks everyone. ONE.
  • hbund216hbund216 Member Posts: 162
    I was talking with honda once and they said there was a TSB on some hondas that make a clicking sound when turning. This is not engine knock is it? I have a 5 Speed also and if I don't release the clutch just right the engine will knock slightly when starting in 1st.
  • soberssobers Member Posts: 496
    is accurate. Speedometer errors are caliberation ones. i.e the needle has certain deviation say 5% which varies as speed varies. So you car may show 27 when it is 25, 43 when it is 40, 70 when 67 etc
  • enternamehereenternamehere Member Posts: 42
    I asked if you have tested your odometer, not the inaccuracy of your speedometer, this has already been acknowledged.
  • stvchangstvchang Member Posts: 10
    Hey everyone,
    I'm trying to decide between an Accord EX-V6 w/ traction control vs Pathfinder 4x4. Can anyone shed some light on how the this Accord handles in the snow? I live in NY so there's not a lot of snow usually, but this past winter had its fair share. Thanks.

    Steve
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