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  • canadianclcanadiancl Member Posts: 1,078
    There'll be no major changes for the 2002 Accord. The 2002 Altima will definitely be the "hot" ticket and the V6 version should be able to blow the Accord into the weeds. However, from the spy photos, IMHO, the Altima's styling is not a clear home run. Nissan somehow seems to have problem designing rear ends (for cars). Another factor to consider is first-year teething problems for the Altima.
  • jrct9454jrct9454 Member Posts: 2,363
    I agree that, apart from the usual "special edition" package for the 4 cyl, there should be no substantive changes for the 2002 model. However, given the competition from the new Camry and Altima, look for very aggressive marketing on the '02 Accord - subvented leases, subsidized financing, dealer incentives, etc. If you like the '01, the '02 should be pretty much the same, but probably available at an even lower price, if you can exercise some patience....say, a few months after intro.
  • hbund216hbund216 Member Posts: 162
    I don't know about dealers but carsdirect.com is selling them at invoice for LA residents.
  • raybearraybear Member Posts: 1,795
    than that in LA.
  • reframmelatorreframmelator Member Posts: 1
    Change the oil (I use synthetic and go 5k), check with the dealer on major items (like the timing belt change) and periodic maintenance and you too can get to 248k like my '94 LX 5 spd with ABS. It still gets 31 mpg around town. I just lost the starter and PM'ed the water pump at 90k and 230k (when I had the timing belt replaced). The only major failure was a balance shaft end seal failure at 140k. A $6 part and a $560 bill (including the timing belt), that Honda has announced broadly they will cover, although I'm waiting over 4 months for my check. The AC systems in that era were prone to condenser failures. My son now drives it, as we just purchased a 2001 EX 5 speed in December. For what it's worth, a number of comments.

    1) It's amazing how GOOD the '94 is at 248k. Still tight and bulletproof. I change the oil every 5k using synthetic, by the way. It feels utterly in control and intuitive.

    2) It's amazing how much bigger the 2001 looks, feels, and acts, both inside and out. It can move through turns, but it's work compared to the '94, which is much more of a boy racer. (I said MORE).

    3) I think people opt for the V-6 for power, but, never having driven one, can't say. I will say that both have adequate power for passing on back roads, but both seem much happier on the interstate. BY the way, the '94 LX beat the '94 EX to 60 mph (weight not offset by hp).

    4) The interior designers added much, much more useful interior space in the '01 than in the last generation. Usable cabbies and compartments everywhere.

    5) The 2001 is the first car with a sunroof that I could ever drive.

    6) The '01 AC has it all over the '94's.

    7) I don't know about anyone else, but the A pillar seems enormous to me. I guess the five star crash rating has to come from somewhere.

    8) My biggest gripe is that the engine specs 5W-20 oil, and except for the dealer and Castrol, I can't get it in many places, and I can't get synthetic in 5W-20 anywhere. I can live with the mineral oil and 3k changes, but I'll miss the easier cold starts in upstate New York.

    9) When I took the '94 in for the 180k maintenance, I started to tell the rep which items I wanted and which I had done. He pulled out a typed sheet headed, "Accord/Civic 160,000/360,000 Mile Maintenance Checklist". I complimented him on their marketing savvy, and he deadpanned, "Oh, no! We routinely get Accords and Civics in with 250,000 and quite a few come in for the 360k maintenance."
  • seguyseguy Member Posts: 133
    rumored to bump hp in v-6 to 240 remain competitive with new altima/camry until new redesign for 2003. Check out http://www.vtec.net/news/ (under 4/28/01 story).
  • ral2167ral2167 Member Posts: 791
    i wonder if there is a crying need to increase horsepower in a V6 accord.... seems to me that the 200 hp accord is powered well enough-- when is too much too much? would fuel economy be compromised, i wonder? going to 240 hp would be more horsepower than the current base acura CL-- unless that gets bumped up too-- which would then lead to a bump up in horsepower in the acura CL-S, i reckon.

    i'm still trying to figure out what nissan is doing with the altima/maxima deal-- seems to me the altima is moving ahead of the maxima--- imagine the civic moving ahead of the accord... am i nuts? what nissan needs is a 2 door version of the new altima, or current maxima.....with cloth seats and a decent coin box. i don't think nissan offers a 2 door of anything.

    just one old man's opinion.
  • amz997amz997 Member Posts: 61
    Hi,

    I am planning to buy accord ex. I live near philadelphia in PA. Are their any promotions going on Accords?
    thanks
  • ineto6ineto6 Member Posts: 161
    As I see it, most Accords and Camrys are sold as four cylinders. The V6 versions are not as common since they tend to cost a little above what the average car costs. The Altima V6 will be geared toward people who are car enthusiasts. The people buying the V6 Accords or Camrys usually buy them for the smoothness.

    As far as the Accord V6 competing against the Acura relatives, I'd say that has happened in the past and it will be a similar situation in the future. Toyota and Nissan have been dealing with that same issues with their twins.

    For increase horsepower affecting fuel economy - that really is not a direct relationship. The TL switched from a 4-speed to a 5-speed and the fuel economy went up slightly. In other words, there are other factors that will come into play.

    The Altima/Maxima dilemma will be a short-lived one, but the customers will be the beneficiaries.
  • inkyinky Member Posts: 370
    3.9 finacing for all models.
    I bought a 2001 LX auto for $17,388 delivered in December. That is $500 below invoice and $2700 below sticker. I guess any accord can be had for invoice at this time. I see EX V-6 for 21,999 all the time at dealers in OK and Tx.
    INKY
  • mpgmanmpgman Member Posts: 723
    As I recall, a big selling point of the 00 Accord SE was ABS. You can get an 01 LX-A-SSRS with all of the LX equipment plus ABS and side air bags in either 4 or 6 cylinder variety. Consider that sor of like a SE. And if you don't like moonroofs and want the extra headroom, a good deal too. I've seen about 4-5 of these in lots lately.
  • wmoliverwmoliver Member Posts: 4
    Has anyone had any problems with squeaks or rattles with their Accord.
  • bolivarbolivar Member Posts: 2,316
    Please, name dealer names.

    I'm interested in an Oklahoma dealer selling 2001 Accord Sedan EX-V6 for $21,999.

    Thanks
  • canadianclcanadiancl Member Posts: 1,078
    what does he actually get out of the deal even if you factor in the holdback? I reckon that the salesman still has to be paid. How much does the salesman make? A flat rate, say, couple of hundred per deal? Or some %? So after paying the salesman, what's left for the dealer? Why would he want to do all the work for little or no money? He's not guaranteed business for the servicing since the customer can always have his car serviced elsewhere.
  • truckdude1truckdude1 Member Posts: 88
    Hi we would like to buy an accord VP,with a/c and auto and that's it.do you think the motor is up to hard acceleration and can it handle alot of local use? we are very good about servicing cars , but we want a cheaper and much reliable used or new car.but how well is the reliability and power? do accords run for high miles or not? please respond this asap and thank you very much.
  • soberssobers Member Posts: 496
    run for a longer time. If you are on a very strict budget getting Vp is ok but if you would better off buying Lx with cruise/power windows, better audio. Accord VP engine makes 135 HP is as powerful as Lx 150hp which is slightly more powerfull under 4000rpm with increased compression ratio & slightly more faster after 4000RPM (Vtec)

    Any Accord would run for 200K miles if cared for properly.
  • poochiewpoochiew Member Posts: 3
    I think that new Altima looks pretty sharp. I just bought a '01 Accord EX 5 spd. I was thinking real hard about buying a Maxima SE but knowing that they're coming out w/ a 240 hp Altima in a few months I would assume the Max will have to have even more ooshba! I didn't want to buy a car that was going to be outdated in just a few months.
  • amz997amz997 Member Posts: 61
    Is honda still offerring the 3.9 -5.9 APR?
    edmunds site says the deal ends 4/30/01 ..
    are they still offerring the financing and if yes till when are they offerring?

    thanks
  • jackielejackiele Member Posts: 22
    I'm interested in buying a new Accord, ex6cylinder in the next 6-8 weeks. I am, of course, looking to get the lowest price possible. I live in the dc, md area and have gotten invoice pricing. Can it go lower? Also, do you think that if I wait until July there will be any rebates? Thanks for your help!
  • kaycee41kaycee41 Member Posts: 23
    I know there was a discussion awhile back about gas mileage for the 6 cyl Accord. Someone said their mileage was very disappointing (about 22 mpg with mixed highway/city). My experience has been just the opposite, so good I find it hard to believe. My first 2 fill-ups were pretty good...24 and 26 mpg with mixed highway/city. I now have 2000 miles on my Accord EX coupe 6 cyl. I took a trip from Chicago to St. Louis which is all highway. Optimum conditions...flat roads, good weather, not running the air and only window open was the sunroof tilted up, cruise set at 70. On the trip down (making a long side-trip) I got 29.97 mpg. I thought WOW! The trip back was 254 miles and I used just under a half of tank of gas. Fill-up took 7.24 gal. Got 35.08 mpg!!! Must have had a nice tail-wind or something. Anyway, I was very surprised, never thought I would get over 30 mpg with a 6cyl. Just wondering what kind of mileage everyone else is getting?
  • frag235frag235 Member Posts: 81
    Honda doesn't do rebates to the public (at least, not in the past) so if you can get one at invoice, I'd grab it now!
  • raybearraybear Member Posts: 1,795
    Last year Honda offered a dealer incentive on the Accord, but it was either/or as regards the low APR financing. Since you can get one at or below invoice and take home the financing, I'd consider it right now.
  • jackielejackiele Member Posts: 22
    What sites can I go to for Accord EX 6 cylinder pricing? I'm pretty new to all of this!

    Thanks,
    Jackie
  • raybearraybear Member Posts: 1,795
    Edmunds posts prices. You can link to Carsdirect from Edmunds for a selling price, then take it to your local dealer for a challenge quote or bid on one of the other internet services to see if they can beat it.


    Another location for easy price research is:


    <a href="http://auto.priceline.com/autos/spec/newcars.asp?session_key=140011ACD10011AC200105031812258b7e90417681"

    But don't give your credit card number until you're ready to buy.

  • ksstxksstx Member Posts: 1
    Just got the accord ex-vl 6 cyl for 24 even incl t,t&l and 3 options (wood grain on dash, tinting and chrome trim on exhaust). Inventory on those models is high in TX and they seem very willing to deal.
    I was told the 3.9 financing(36 months) ended on April 30th by the dealer, so I think that info is correct.
  • cbaccuscbaccus Member Posts: 2
    FYI: Honda has the same financing deals in May as they did in April on all Accords. Check the honda site for details.
  • amz997amz997 Member Posts: 61
    honda has 3.9-5.9 APR on new accords till june 4th

    http://www.ehonda.com/default.asp?type=3


    can I buy ex at invoice 20200 + TT?


    did anyone recently buy a ex at invoice in philly area? which dealer did you go to?

  • amz997amz997 Member Posts: 61
    the price edmunds lists on the site for ex:
    EX 4dr Sedan (2.3L 4Cyl 4A)

    MSRP Invoice TMV
    $22,200 $19,758 $20,021
    $440 $440 $440
    ----------------------------
    $22,640 $20,198 $20,461
    ----------------------------

    Is this price for a manual or automatic ?
    Thanks
  • smithmdsmithmd Member Posts: 167
    2.3L - 2.3 liter
    4Cyl - 4 cylinder
    4A - 4-speed automatic

    Edmunds will also list a EX 4dr Sedan (2.3L 4Cyl 5M)
    5M - 5-speed manual
  • compuman2000compuman2000 Member Posts: 9
    Hi Everyone!
    Does anyone know where I can find a good sunshade (like the ones you can fold up) specifically for the Accord (2001) for a good price?
    I saw some sites that had a rear sunshade that doesn't need to be folded up, for about $90. That seems a bit hefty to me just for a sunshade.
  • jhs65000jhs65000 Member Posts: 3
    Any thoughts/advice/opinions regarding the purchase of a 4cyl. or 6 cyl EX (4 door sedan)? Is the 6cyl worth it? Or will the 4 be a better deal?
    Thanks!
  • ineto6ineto6 Member Posts: 161
    what kind of car are you driving right now? Why do you want to replace it?

    Are you concern about fuel economy? Do you prefer smooth revving sound of the engine like a V6 or a high pitched sounding 4 bangers? Just some questions to steer you in the right directions.
  • jhs65000jhs65000 Member Posts: 3
    currently drive a Ford Explorer, so I'm used to a 6cyl. Need a good commuter car - just wasn't sure if the EX 6 had enough behind it to make it stand far above the 4 (and therefore the extra $$). Ultimately, if the 4 can hold its own w/out whining when I stepped on it, the 4 would be fine. How about gas mileage or reliability differences?
  • hbund216hbund216 Member Posts: 162
    I have a 4 (5 speed) and I think the it has enough power for most driving conditions. Are you hauling 3 or more people around all the time? If not get the 4. better fuel econ and enough power when you need it. The 4 also feels more nimble.
  • ineto6ineto6 Member Posts: 161
    you'll notice that most Accords sold are 4 cylinders LX trim. So it kinda say that the engine is fairly peppy for most people. I've driven an Accord EX 4 cylinder with automatic transmission. It has enough power for highway passing in most instances - you just don't want to try passing my car LOL!!! Since you are using for commuting - by yourself, I take it. I'd go with the peppy and more thrifty four cylinder. However, you'll owe yourself a test drive of both engines. Reliability for both engines are pretty much the same. Also, the V6 has auto transmission as standard. You'll likely to get about 3mpg better with a four cylinder.... that sure adds up with the fuel prices right now, eh?
  • fxashunfxashun Member Posts: 747
    Cruised all day at 100mph with 4 people and luggage. Effortless. Even ran it up to an indicated 125 a couple times.
  • jhs65000jhs65000 Member Posts: 3
    for all the input. Think I'll probably go with the 4 cyl (automatic). Thanks again
  • ineto6ineto6 Member Posts: 161
    fxashun - slow down, dude!!!! You'll overheat your engine if you keep at that speed :D

    jhs65000 - good luck shopping for a nice one.
  • fxashunfxashun Member Posts: 747
    They just beg for more speed. The higher the revs the faster it begs to go. We have a 2001 V6 coupe now. I miss the stick but it sure sings.
    BUUTTT I drove a CL type-S from Richmond to Atlanta....THAT engine can sing.
  • ineto6ineto6 Member Posts: 161
    fxashun - I was referring to the triple digit speeds that you were doing. It can and will take a toll on your engine if you drive at that speed for several hours in Texas heat - then again, you'll be pull over way before that :) I have a red CL, yup Type S. The engine and exhaust sounds are pretty addictive. They just make me want to rev over 6k out on the highway - I'd drop the SS gear into third and punch it - I still get a pretty good mixed driving fuel economy of 24mpg.
  • fritz1224fritz1224 Member Posts: 398
    Want smooth acceleration and no worries about merging? go with the six. Well worth it. Blow a lot of the 4's and 6's off the road. Mpg for the 6 aren't that bad either. I get 20 city and have gotten as high as 32 hiway. Plus you have to consider the "smug" factor.
    For some reason, the 6 seems bigger. Psychological, I know.
  • fxashunfxashun Member Posts: 747
    Is that it ccaaann get over 30mpg if you can stay out of the v-tec. But that's easier said than done. By the way I found it easy to make some good time on I-20 and I-10 on my travels there. But you are right it sure can get hot there. I was in Houston last year and it was 104 degrees by 10AM. Whoa.
  • surfing19surfing19 Member Posts: 46
    I was reading today in the latest Motor Trend Magazine. It has an article comparing the Dodge Stratus, Accord, and the Hyundai XG300.

    If you look under the warranty for the accord it says "Powertrain warranty 8 years / 80,000"

    Is this correct, I always thought honda only had a 3 year 36,000 mile warranty on everything
  • canadianclcanadiancl Member Posts: 1,078
    That must be a misprint.
  • surfing19surfing19 Member Posts: 46
    You wouldnt' think a magazine like motor Trend would make a mistake of placing the wrong warranty in there comparision chart.

    werid. !
  • jackielejackiele Member Posts: 22
    Just got my price today...Accord EX-L-V6, $22,574, Honda Care Warranty, 7 years, 100,000 miles, $0 deductible, $749.00. Price includes freight. Price does NOT include tax and title. So, what do you think?
  • shopper101shopper101 Member Posts: 11
    Just got my price today...Accord EX-L-V6, $22,574,...

    That's $200 below invoice, according to edmunds.
    I would say it's a good deal. I'll probably take the $749.00 and invest in a S&P-500 index fund.

    Just my personal opinion.
  • talon95talon95 Member Posts: 1,110
    Surfing19...

    I've been reading all of the most popular car magazines for years, and mistakes like that in their charts are not uncommon. Just a hazard of having to organize so much information.
  • fxashunfxashun Member Posts: 747
    I think that's a great deal. When you consider many roadsides cost $80 a year, the Hondacare is a deal too. IMHO
  • patpat Member Posts: 10,421
    Follow the link in the Additional Resources box on the left sidebar of this page to see the video Road Test review of the 2001 Accord.

    Let us know what you think.

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