Older Honda Accords

gee35coupe

folks for lying salespeople. They'd go broke.

activex111

Hi,
I have a '99 accord -v6 and recently i noticed some jerk while putting in drive from reverse. The dealer told me after inspection that I have broken motor mount and that I also have some oil leaks. barely a month ago i did my 60K service at the same dealer and at that time there were no oil leaks. any idea if the broken motor mount
leads to oil leaks from engine gasket? has anyone else had this problem of broken motor mounts? dunno what must have caused it..
thanks,

dako_tian

desmonsm noticed some jerk after he bought his recently too. No, wait. That was the salesperson! ;-)

activex111

ha.. good one...

rwong1998

My neighbour in Vancouver B.C is considering buying 2.4L LX-G 5 speed manual Honda Accord. The MSRP on this including freight is $26,195. What is the best price that people in Canada are getting on this car?...any information is greatly appreciated!

nowakj66

Could not be more pleased with my Honda service tonight at Roush Honda in Westerville Ohio. For $26 they did the 5000 mile oil change. They also fixed a brake noise by turning the rotors and putting on new pads for free. Adjusted the glove box door. Washed it. All for $26! And all from 6 PM - 9 PM. They service cars till Midnight.

pj23

The rear defroster on my '03 does go off, but it took about 40 minutes. Noticed on a long trip a couple of weeks ago.

htt

I doubt that they do anything for free. I think they're going to charge Honda Corp. for the brake work because your car is still under warranty.

aggie1995

Can't we just be happy that something was done by a dealer promptly, right the first time, and it didn't cost much out of our pocket?

Or do we have to always look for the negative?

chucko3

My last trip was less than 35 minutes. Will pay attention to it again on the next longer trip.
The 03 owner's manual does not mention anything about automatically shut off.

htt

I don't have the '03 manual but I know that the '03 brochure says the rear defroster has a timer. But somebody on this board said that the brochure might be wrong. In my opinion, the timed shut-off feature has both pro and con. The pro is that you don't have to turn it off. The con is that it sometimes turns off before you want it to be off.

jdexter23

Mine must be defective, cause it stays on forever. On a long trip, I left it on to see if it would indeed, shut off. 4 hours later, no dice...

dako_tian

Can't we just be happy that something was done by a dealer promptly, right the first time, and it didn't cost much out of our pocket? Or do we have to always look for the negative?

We can't resist looking for the negative. It's just what we do.... ;-)

(My son, 5 years old, doesn't get rhetorical questions either. When I blare out, "HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO TELL YOU THAT?!?" his reply is always something like, "Five?")

blane

nowakj66:

It's great that you are pleased with your recent service experience (your post #13917). I'm surprised about something though. You said "they did the 5,000 mile oil change". That's a non-scheduled interval. If you check the schedules in your Honda Maintenance booklet you will find that "normal" oil changes are to be done at 7,500 mile intervals and "severe" service oil changes are at 3,750 miles.

gregoryc1

Good posting! -----Greg

hmurphy

I noticed it at first in my 03 EX-V6, but either I've learned to tune it out or it went away, because I don't hear it anymore. Maybe the speakers settled along with the rest of the car. I notice fewer rattles in general now.

nw1997

Can anyone please tell us what is the purpose of the fender wheel trim? Does it help the Accord's in any way?

Thanks

lelandhendrix

Maybe he has the 4-cyl. The 4-cyl and V6 have different maintenance schedules.

aggie1995

is probably a dealer recommended service.

Just like we have dissagreements here having to do with how often to change our oil, dealer vs. jiffy shop vs. do-it-yourself, and synthetic vs dino.....I'm sure dealers have different opinions on what is a reccommended service interval. As long as they aren't exceeding Honda's intervals then they have nothing to worry about with their opinion.

For instance my dealer has a whole sheet of recommended serices that may or may not identically match Honda's service schedule, but the dealer never exceeds honda's specs. My dealer wants me to come in every 3750 miles for an oil change. I wait till 5000.

mikeysoft

My delear also recommended 3750 for all Hondas. I pointed out that the V6 normal is 7500, severe is 3750 and the 4 cyl was 10000 for normal and severe of 5000. I also told him I had a 4 cyl.
 
The next time I was at the dealer, I notice that they change to 3750 for V6 & 5000 for 4 cyl. Look like they took some of my input.
 
I do it myself at around 7000 on my 4 cyl, that would be 5250 for a V6 using the same percentage between v6 & 4.

lelandhendrix

do you have the v6 or the 4-cyl?

nowakj66

I went the 5000 miles to get the most out of the break-in oil. My Accord is about 10 months old so I did not want to wait too much longer.

I realize there is no such thing as a free lunch. I am sure American Honda was billed for the brake work - turning rotors, new front pads ($168). I am also sure this will be reflected in Honda's expenses which will in turn make the cars cost that much more.

Still - good service from a good dealer.

So the 6 needs more frequent oil changes?

mikeysoft

The V6 oil chance mileage is 75% of the 4.

aggie1995

I have the I4.

That dealer recommends 3750 for I4 and V6.

I actually plan on changing at 4000 but life happens and by the time I actually get around to it I'm at 4700 or so miles.

ab348

The dealer-installed fender trim is mostly a profit pack for dealers to squeeze some extra dollars out of buyers. It was virtually a "mandatory option" back when Hondas were so much in demand they were on allocation and dealers maintained wait lists. Some dealers got addicted to the stuff and still install it on every car. The stuff used locally probably costs about $5 and sells for over a hundred. Like the guy in the ING ads says, "save your money".

lelandhendrix

Then your dealer is wrong.

It's preposterous that your dealer would disregard the distinctly different schedules Honda recommendeded for the two engines.

I don't want to spark a 'proper maintenance' debate, but if a dealer believes in the engineers who produce their product, why can't they follow their instructions?

justin

hi everyone - when you all get a chance - please read this. i am STILL cleaning off trace amounts of new car factory covering goo, and last night i found another faint line of it. was cleaning it, and the actual body panel made some noise when i pressed on it. here is the exact location, as best as i can describe it:

left front fender, right below the hood, so still very much on top of the wheel well (as you know, our hoods are thin, and fenders thick). about halfway up from headlights, just below the hood, where the slope is very severe, when i press, the panel gives, maybe not even 2MM, but enough to make a popping noise. i opened the hood to peer underneath, but it is sealed. i tried the exact location, on the right front fender, and no noise. i did that when the car was warm, tried again this morning when cold, still popped.

now, NOTHING is loose, falling off, all gaps are totally fine, so i am wondering what the culprit is. if in fact there is anything to be worried about at all.....

anyone elses car do that? should i be concerned? it only does it for about 7-10 inches of the length, one i get close to windshied, it stops, and when i get close to headlight, it stops.

i hope i explained the location as well as possible. how are fenders put on? maybe just a srcew loose inside that i can't see?

THANKS for input!

aggie1995

leland:
"I don't want to spark a 'proper maintenance' debate, but if a dealer believes in the engineers who produce their product, why can't they follow their instructions?"

Goes back to my previous post.
1. Just as we have 'proper maintenance' debates, I'm sure mechanics have the same type of debates. They are under no obligation to follow Honda's service intervals as long as they do not exceed them.
2. There is a world of difference between engineering and actually maintaining their products. On paper you can make anything happen. In the real world these mechanics may have true experience that says that these briliiant engineers are full it. Or it could be a hard habit to break to disregard the ole 3000 mile oil change routine.
3. Suggesting service intervals sooner than the manual states makes the service shop more money. The customer however is under no obligation to follow their suggestion, only the manual and only if they care about their warranty.

leland:
"Then your dealer is wrong."

Their is no right and wrong in this stuff. It's all a matter of opinion and personal experience. Very few cars self destruct due to engine failure these days. Especially when service intervals are done sooner than the manufacturer suggests.

dudleyr

Here is the Accord that I would like. I think it looks much better than the sedan, and has much more room. Too bad we will never see it in the U.S. I just tried the hyperlink - if it does not work, then copy the link and paste it into the address line of your browser.

http://sohc.vtec.net/news_files/203793/acc_tourer-02.jpg

talon95

Since the Accord line is so different in the US, I agree that we'll probably never see it as an Accord. However, with the increased interest in "sports wagons", I think the folks at Acura should give some serious consideration to bringing a version of it to the US as a TSX wagon. I think they'd have a runaway success on their hands. Works for BMW, Mercedes, Audi and Volvo...

serendip

Justin,

Mine (03 EX V6) does the same thing - I just checked. (Do I ever wish I didn't read this thread!) On the driver's side only, not on passenger side. Sounds like it's hitting into something. Car is cold.

chucko3

It wasn't a hot sale when it was introduced in the early 90.

talon95

"It wasn't a hot sale when it was introduced in the early 90."

That's because minivans were the hot thing at that time, which pretty much eliminated the market for wagons. Now that minivans have the "soccer mom" stigma, people who like something a bit more nimble than your average SUV but with more cargo room than your average sedan are looking for alternatives.

justin

okay, thanks, and sorry

for once, my car isn't the only one! my friends won't tell me to take medication, haha.

i am stopping by the dealer tomorrow. as you can see, when you open the hood, you can't see down in there. i can't believe it would be "designed in" from the factory.....

kid21

Anyone that has a 2002 Accord V6 and hears ticking noise coming from the battery area?

chucko3

I pushed everywhere on the left front fender
(above the wheel well) of the 03EXV6, and heard no poping sound. Yes, I pushed hard.

Had a chance to run a trip more than 40 minutes tonight. The rear defrost did not automatically shut off. I didn't expect it would since the manual does not say so.

kevitra

This is for the wagon:

http://www.imediaconnection.com/content/cs/honda/051303/honda.htm- l

What you see was really done, after 606 takes.

Here is an article pertaining to the making of the commercial:
http://www.dailytelegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2003/04- - /13/nhonda13.xml&sSheet=/news/2003/04/13/ixhome.html

mikeysoft

I would have got one if it was available when I got my 03.

justin

i went to the dealer, and pressed lots of Accords in the fender. none of the 4 cylinders did it, but a few 6 cylinders did.

should that make me feel better? i think it kind of does....

htt

Today my navigation system indicated that I averaged 39 mpg for about 21 miles of driving with 20% city and 80% highway. I have only 350 miles on the car. It's not accurate, is it ? I believe Honda advertised 21 in city and 30 on highway for a '04 EX V6.

aggie1995

Well I wouldn't put anything beyond consideration but you should really just measure your MPG using your trip meter and gallons at the pump per fillup. That will give you the most accurate reading.

If it makes you feel any better some people are getting very close to 30 from their V6 Accords fairly regularly.

lelandhendrix

I like the European Accord too, but it is smaller than the US Accord. The only way it has more room is in the cargo area of the wagon. It's reputed to corner like mad.

I like the fact that the US Accord is based on the Honda Aspire, their flagship car in Japan. Considered luxurious for the line.

richards38

I'd check again--39 MPG is too high for a V6 Accord unless most of the driving was going down a very long hill.

I carefully checked my '04 Accord EX-L 4 cylinder and highway-only mileage was 33.2 and city-only mileage was 22.6. A mixture of the two was about 24 on one early tankful.

I'd say that's good for a 3200 pound car with plenty of power which I believe the 4 cylinder Accord has.....Richard

car3

I wish I can get that mileadge in one of my cars. I have never heard of that in a car like an Accord(maybe a Civic.) Maybe your not heavy on the foot or something.

richards38

This is probably old news, but worth showing anyway. Note the Accord's 5 star ratings for both front and side crash protection:

http://www.kiplinger.com/features/archives/2004/01/safecars.html

........Richard

dudleyr

Driven slow enough, a manual tranny V-6 Accord could probably get 39 mpg.

Consumer Reports got the new Malibu at 38 mpg with a 3.5 liter V-6 and an auto tranny - they run their hwy test at 65 mph.

imidazol97

Re Malibu at 38 mph rating! Maybe I have to change my opinion of Consumer Report's biases... grin.
They said something good about a GM car.

Reality is my LeSabre gives 34 on flat interstates at 65 over lots of miles. The tank fills vs mileage indicates the computer gives good readings on fuel mileage on this car. It did get 45 mph according to the computer information center -- but there was a 35-50 mph wind behind me!!!

Perhaps manual V6 @ 55 mph could hit that.

htt

I reported I got 39 mpg on 21 miles of driving from home to work earlier. But the mpg dropped quite a bit on the way back from work. The navigation system reported that I got 33 mpg for the round trip which was about 42 miles total. There were a few factors contributed to the lower mpg on the way back. The traffic was busier. The wind might be another factor. I'm not sure if my house is at higher elevation than my office. I'm still thrilled if it was actually 33 mpg. I didn't drive faster than 65 mph because it was still in break-in period.

austinman7

I've had my '04 LX 4 cyl. about two months now, mostly in cold, nasty weather. Several times, the power windows have refused to lower. The electic motor starts to work, and there's a slight movement of the window, then it stops. It's only happened in very cold weather -- below 10 degrees, with snow, ice, etc. I'm guessing they're just frozen. Maybe some ice or snow is getting in the wrong place. 99 percent of the time, they work fine.

Has anyone else experienced this?

Other than that, the car is really flawless, a pleasure to drive.

lelandhendrix

You are exactly right--they are frozen shut.

I expericenced the exact same thing during ice and show here. I have a very short 10-minute commute to work. By the time I get there the heat from the defroster is has been enough to allow me to lower the window and show my id.