Older Honda Accords

thegraduate

No, not really, b/c the 3.0 is the same basic engine that debuted on the 1998 model, originally offering 200 horsepower. The 3.2 is, at least, a model year newer.

gee35coupe

Toyota has just come out with that new 3.5. And it's already down on power than the 3.5 in the RL. If the RL gets a new engine, which it needs, the 3.5 can go in the redesigned Accord or TL. Honda already has the answer "on the shelf" as they say.

autoboy16

Its not that. Not that at all. Its the fact that the accord's most powerful engine is a hybrid and over 30k. It'll be nice if the hybrid used a 4cyl than the v6. The 4 already gets nearly the same mileage. Besides, it would just be nice if a sport package was offered with a 3spoke steering wheel across the line except for just the coupe.

philoscifer

-most car manufactors and their dealers dont let you take out a rental...not just honda buddy! If your so unhappy with honda why dont u buy a ford or something...but then i guess you would have to deal with their "great" customer service rep. so often cause of their many troubling defects when it comes to production and manufactoring.I dont know where u live but man i live within 25 miles of 3 honda dealers.

gee35coupe

the next Accord Hybrid needs to be a 4 cylinder. That 6 cylinder with the helper motor is just silly.

alumiu90

Need help from anyone. Own a Certified Used '04 Accord LX with 24k miles on it. I have since put 5k on it and within the past two months I have noticed an annoying creaking sound in both the Drivers Side and Drivers Rear Passenger windows develop. The passenger side is unaffected.

Took it to my dealer, still under warranty, and they stated that they could not duplicate the noise, but it may be the window seals and if they lubricated them they would just dry out again within a few weeks. They never even offered to advise what lubricant or how to lubricate them so I could do on my own if I desired.

Very frustrated as this noise is extremely annoying in an otherwise very nice quiet car. I have searched the board and I see references to this same issue, but no one has posted a fix. If anyone has a fix - PLEASE ADVISE

Thanks,

Alumiu

peg

need help. i cant decide between the nissan altima,toyota prius or any toyota cars or either civic or honda accord. i am looking for good engine, gas to be good, value, resale. now i know the prius is best on gas. but when you have to repair or get a new battery that sorta beats the price dollar for dollar. whats your opinion

pat

I think you will find very helpful the discussion at this link: Midsize Sedans Comparisons Thread. Check it out. Lots of good info there now, and it's a great place to ask your questions.

uhuh1

A dealer told me Honda will release a brand new model('08 Accord) this September and the new one might be slightly changed. Is it true?

The reason I'm asking is I didn't decide if I have to wait until then or it is OK to buy it now. Do you have any information about the change? You know, new Camry changed a lot, but I don't know Accord.

Thank you for your answer in advance.

jaxs1

The Accord was just updated late last year.
A redesigned 2008 Accord is not going to be released this year. That would make no sense.

thegraduate

It will be released in September of 2007, not anytime this year. The 2007 model will likely have few, if any, noticeable changes. Most will probably be small things like color choices and fabric changes.

mdta

I was about to pull the trigger on an Civic LX, at the dealer I tested drive the Accord. I like it much more than the racoon like civic, the problem is I don't like the front end look of the Accord. So I wait for the next release of the Accord.

I believe it will be edgy and sleek, unlike the current one, it looks like a plump, wide-eyed, clueless, middle age woman .

jfox2

Is the noise from the door windows or the windshield? I just purchased a new 2006 Accord EX and the noise from the front windshield and dash is horrible. Makes the car unbearable! The dealer will try to fix (they say). We'll see. I'm not so sure I would keep the car if the problem is not fixed (or maybe use the lemon law route as a last resort). Also, the car was delivered with poorly repaired body damage on the back bumper and scratches in the paint. Owned numerous Hondas in the past but i think that quality is dropping fast.

jeffinak

Will it be okay to put the OEM 15 inch 4 hole aluminum alloy wheels from a 97 EX on a 96 LX? I notice that in the owners book it says to use 195 tires on EX's and to use 185 tires on LX. So if I put the EX wheels on the LX should I also use 195 tires, or will that be bad. The LX is a 4 cyl 5 speed. I could use the advice. Thanks

thegraduate

Many Hondas we've had since 1993 (since then, its been more than ten!) have had a scratch here or a mismatch there; I don't think they've ever been perfect.

I have a 2006 EX that is even quieter than dad's 2005, so I apparently dont have the noise issue yours is experiencing. Good luck with that.

canddmeyer

I've had 4-cyl Camry's and Accords. I'd recommend either. The Civic and Corolla would get slightly better MPG, but I still like the larger Accord & Camry. My current 1999 Accord and my former 1986 Camry have never got below 30mpg. I have no comment on the Prius or Altima or hybrids.

autoboy16

:P lol. :surprise: it does!! Anyone else noticed that accords (starting in 1990) go from being "sleek" and slim to round and pudgy? Do you see the alternation? Check generations.

autoboy16

Is something wrong with the edmunds time frame? It says my last message was posted at 4:47am. I posted at 7:47am (eastern time zone)! At 4:47am i am in bed snoring or waking up to travel, but on the internet reading and posting?? :confuse:

qbrozen

do the math.
obviously, 4:47 is pacific time.

jeffinak

I was just thinking that last night. To my eye it looks as though every other generation follows a similar body design. A common design element in an 82, 91, 99 is a bascially level shoulder line from the cowl on back. In the in between generations the shoulder line looks more like a wedge. I suppose you could even say the wedge look started in the 1980 generation if you consider how the shoulder line in a coupe rises at the B pillar.

pat

Our servers moved from the east coast to the west coast a few weeks ago. That changed the default message board time from eastern to pacific.

There is a setting in your preferences (link on the left) that controls the time display. You can set it so that the time stamps display IAW your time zone.

harryliuusa

It looks confused to me between EBD and VSA found on 06 Accord V6.

What is it and the difference? I understand the car's computer can detect
slippage on one of the wheel and reduce the brake force on that tire but how
can a vehicle detect the car is over/under turn at a curve like Honda
website described?

Anyone ever studied/experienced on this device? Like to hear if it is a
real help and selling point for an 06.
I have a 05 EX-V6 and wanted to get another 06 mainly for these "safety"
feature.

Thanks

sciman10

Thanks to all you posters! My wife and I ended up purchasing the 2006 Accord EX V6 and both enjoy the ride. It is rougher and noisier than the Camry but the Accord is what she wanted. After reading the many posts here I will buy a 8 yr 100,000 mile Honda-Care warranty for peace of mind. I found one with $0 deductible for $936 and figure even if we have absolutely no problems we will have done well. As for price, we got the vehicle via the internet with mud guards, wheel locks, and protection package (with vin window etching) for $25,100 before TTL. Actually the dealership did not charge for the protection package and had to throw it into the deal to sell uss the car. Personally, I wanted the XLE V6 Camry but so far am not at all disappointed with the Accord.

jhinsc

Congrats on your new Accord! If I were to describe the Accord's ride, I would say it's more athletic and tighter than the Camry. From the driver's seat, it sure make's for a more entertaining to drive. I'm coming up on the my first month of ownership, and I don't regret getting it over another car one bit. I narrowed my choice down to the Passat and the Accord. I couldn't bring myself to take the leap to VW because of their lack of reliability - not for the big things, but for the little things that I just don't have time in my life to deal with. I know with the Accord, my ownership experience should be next to trouble-free, if not entirely. :shades:

robr2

From what I undertand, VSA uses sensors that measure steering wheel angle and compares it to body angle and attitude.

harryliuusa

I have to admit that 06 Accord does make a difference on noise handling.
I have a 05 EX-V6 for 10 months now and just bought another 06 EX-V6 yesterday.

06 Accord EX-V6 is quieter than 05, the road noise absorbed/muffled better than last year's.

Is it a definite positive improvement? I am not sure. because while I enjoyed the quiet ride, the 06 wheel feels heavier that makes turning at tight space an effort...

thegraduate

Is it a definite positive improvement? I am not sure. because while I enjoyed the quiet ride, the 06 wheel feels heavier that makes turning at tight space an effort...

The larger/wider wheels make turning harder (more friction is made when turning at low speed). My 2006 (I-4) vs Dad's 2005 (I-4) feel the exact same at the helm, b/c the tires are the same.

mlewandowski

I would like to add factory daytime running lights to my "05 Accord. Can any honda techs tell me how the american '06 DRL's
work? And maybe post relay part numbers?
Thanks,
Mike

master1

You cannot add FACOTRY daytime running lights to your car. You can go to a Honda dealer, or mechanic to do it, but I doubt they can do it. But there really isn't any point in doing it because your insurance will not be lower unless its from the factory. Just put your lights on all the time instead because you can't get it from the factory.

afromel

your right my frend it is the catylitic converter replace it.

glennglenn

I have no comment on the Prius or Altima or hybrids.

No Comment or NO opinion???? :mad:

glennglenn

Please share, where did you BUY the HondaCare warranty for that price????

glennglenn

But there really isn't any point in doing it because your insurance will not be lower unless its from the factory. Just put your lights on all the time instead because you can't get it from the factory.


Note that Insurance Companies do NOT ask if you have DRLs, :shades: so if thats the reason, it won't save you any money.

jaxs1

Now that the Honda factory warranty powertrain coverage has been increased to 5 years, 60K miles, all HondaCare extended warranties should reflect reduced prices since they are offering less new coverage.

lmacmil

EBD proportions the brake fluid pressure correctly between front and rear brakes for optimum stopping power. VSA (aka electronic stability control) uses a steering wheel sensor and a yaw sensor to selective brake individual wheels to correct for oversteer or understeer conditions.

atlantabenny

A retrofit should be possible, DRL is just one of the car's ignition-prompted functions. There's an OEM DRL control module that orchestrates the 75%-power-headlight-only/over-ride-on-full-lights-mode operation.

Here's the module needed: MITSUBA, part# RZ-0126. Canadian eBayers have this part up currently.

Before buying, I'd look for a local accessory installer who can install it, or get DIY installation instructions.

master1

Insurance companies know if the car has DRLs and if you do the insurance is lower. If you add it they don't care.
And I'm not the person who wants the DRL's - I have them - it's mlewandowski who wants them

osuae

I saw that you mentioned the radio display problem and I wanted to alert 2003 Honda Accord EX Owners that they can get the radio display repaired even if they are out of warranty:

About three weeks ago my wife was driving down the road and realized that she could not read the radio display on her 2003 Honda Accord EX-VL (63,000 miles – no extended warranty). As you know this display not only contains the radio/CD changer functions but also the climate control system functions. A few days later we were driving at night and realized that all of the lights on the buttons around the radio were also not lit (it was all very dark in that center dash area). I spent several days reading the owner’s manual and messing with dimmer switches and fuses before turning to the internet. I performed a search and was amazed at all of the information (good and bad), but what I mostly saw was that MANY people were reporting the exact problem as we were. So following a few good leads I called Honda America (1-800-999-1009) in March 2006 and explained my problem. They immediately assigned me a case number (you must also have the VIN ready). Within 48 hours I was called by a case worker who told me to take it to the Honda dealership for diagnosis. I took my car in the following day and in less than 10 minutes they confirmed I needed a new radio; but no one would/could tell me if Honda would do anything about the problem. I got the same answer from everyone, “Honda is under no obligation and anything they do will be by good will alone.” I did not get any information/resolution from Honda or the dealership during the 10 days following the diagnosis. I placed several calls and left several voice mails. I finally called the local dealership, they called Honda and everything was resolved in less than 30 minutes (the dealership and Honda called me simultaneously). Honda and/or the dealership decided that they would replace my radio free of charge. I am currently awaiting a call from the dealership to let me know when the replacement radio arrives. I have also been told that the radio display problem has been fixed so the new radio display will not fail. I will post a follow-up if I run into any further problems with the installation or function of the new radio.

tallman1

I've always understood leather to hold up well if you take care of it. Some kind of conditioner on a regular basis is important.

I'm getting ready to purchase leather seats again. My current 95 Accord has cloth seats that still look great... after 211,000 miles.

patpend

I just bought a 2006 Accord Sedan EX V6. I love the car but regret not getting the NAVI. Is it possible to swap a NAVI unit into the car?

stickguy

Yes and no. Yes, anything is theoretically possible if you want to spend enough money. No, it is not practical or cost effective. It would proebably be cheaper to actually trade it in on a navi model!

Why not check out the better protable units (Garmin, etc)? They wil lgive you the basic functionality, if your concern is getting lost. If you just miss the voice activated toy factor, then you are probably out of luck.

tallman1

I'm leaning toward this model. In the western WA area, the internet quotes have been coming in about $700 over invoice but I know I'll do better when the negotiations start.

I'm wondering about the availability of this model. I know that automatics are more popular and I'm not sure how the navigation systems are selling. There may not be too many of this exact model available thus making dealing more challenging. I like three colors but the carbon bronze is pretty sharp.

I may end up getting just leather or maybe even cloth.

Any thoughts?

harryliuusa

Sorry to tell you this, I don't think it is feasible to swap a Navi into the car.

Honda does not provide that as accessory...
That's why I bought both of my EX V6 with navi to start with.
I learned a hard lesson on my Sequoia. You know how much Toyota wanted for the Navi add in my 04 Sequoia? $6 to 7K US $!!!

That's what pissed me off and bought my next two new cars from Honda! never looked at Toyota again.

autoboy16

i'm looking to buy a 95 ex v6 and test drove 1. The radio didn't work (nor did the cd player). All it said was code and the dealer knew nothing about this. Its the stock honda radio system. Do you know what this means and where i can find this code? :confuse: ?

mf15

The dealer is feeding you a line of bull. The radio has a code which you have to puch in to get it restarted. The code came either on a metal tag or somewhere on the paper work when the owner bought the car. I had a 1995 which my daughter is still driveing. Anyhow you need this code, perhaps Honda can trace it through the VIN or if you can find out the dealer where the car was bought they may have the records. Old Mike

jhinsc

You need to enter a code to get the radio and cd player working again. The code came with the car when new. Of course the previous owner probably didn't turn it in with the keys when they sold or traded it. The need for the code occurs if the battery is disconnected for any reason and the radio loses power.

Are you buying from a Honda dealership? They should be able to look up the code based on the VIN #. If you can't get it to work, ask the dealer to put in a new unit.

blane

tallman1,

You cannot buy an Accord with a Honda Navigation system and cloth interior. Your only choice is leather.

tallman1

Yes, I know I need to get leather with navi. I'm thinking of skipping the navi AND leather. I wasn't real clear.

sockpuppet1969

I have a 2003 EX-L Manual w/Navi. Purchased it in Jan '03, took delivery in April '03. I did have to special order the car as there were none available for trade in the entire Southeast (got it from Leith Honda in Raleigh, NC). I paid $500 below TMV at the time but don't remember how that compared to invoice.

AWESOME car! The navigation is absolutely incredible and was a must have on any new car that I would have even considered. I also wanted a 4 cylinder to save on gas (a wise decision in retrospect). The Accord was the only car at the time that offered factory NAV in a 4 cylinder car with a manual transmission (except for the MINI which was too small and girly). The choices are much more numerous now.

The manual really makes the car fun to drive and extracts the most performance out of the engine. I average 29-31 mpg in mixed driving. I'm not worried about resale as I plan on keeping the car for a very long time. If you decide to go that route I think you will be happy. Good luck in your decision.

orang

turn the key twice , before the engine starts . push the trip odometer twice , and it would show the oil life .