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  • snagielsnagiel Posts: 750
    My thoughts: yes and yes. But don't take my word for it; go test drive a 525 sport and/or 530 sport, and make up your own mind.
  • I have a 1990 535i. Really great car. But, one of the rear door lock actuators fused and won't work properly. I'd like to replace it but want to be careful taking the rear door panel off. Can anyone tell me how to take that panel off without damaging anything. It's the left side if that matters. Thanks a lot.
  • snagielsnagiel Posts: 750
    Sorry, I have no idea, but you may want to post on the forums at

    I think you'd have more luck there.
  • rgwlrgwl Posts: 9
    I own a 2002 530I. I noticed a little nick on my plastic lens cover for the lights. Can the plastic Cover be eventually replaced by itself ? I've heard you may have to replace the entire headlight assembly. That would be $$$.
  • snagielsnagiel Posts: 750
    I believe you would indeed have to replace the entire assembly, unfortunately. To prevent further such problems, I recommend XPel (; the headlight protection kit is only $60 (far less than a new headlight unit) and relatively easy to apply; they also have kits for the hood, bumper, and fenders (harder to apply, but doable if you're patient and careful). Many on the forums have used them and like them.
  • l943973l943973 Posts: 197

    Does anyone know if the current 5-Series uses a window grid antenna or the old power antenna rod?

    I'm looking for a luxury car that still uses the power antenna rod. I have a window grid antenna and reception is nowhere near as good at the rod in my previous auto.

  • Hello all. I have a price quote of $43,150 for a new 2002 530i, 5-speed manual, premium package, cold weather package and xenon lights. Can anyone comment on this "deal" being offered to me in Connecticut?

    Thanks in advance for any insights ... I'm a BMW rookie (or at least, a wanabee!).
  • shiposhipo Posts: 9,152
    To the best of my knowledge, all BMWs use a window grid. That said, the system in my 3-Series has superior reception to my previous car with a rod, and our other car, which also has a rod.

    My suggestion, go for a test drive and test the radio reception during the drive.

    Best Regards,
  • snagielsnagiel Posts: 750
    Head over to, which has the list and (updated) invoice pricing for all the options. If the offer is roughly 4-7% above invoice, it's reasonable.
  • snagielsnagiel Posts: 750
    You're picking your next car based on radio reception?! Granted, it's a luxury car as much as it is a sports sedan, but I suggest you go test drive one, and I would wager the radio reception is probably the last thing you'll notice (or care about).

    But to answer your question, yes, BMW uses a window grid (they probably wanted to avoid any unnecessary antenna appendages), but FM reception is fairly good (AM blows, but then again it seems to blow on every radio--car or otherwise--I ever try).
  • riezriez Posts: 2,361
    The AM reception on my '98 540iM is poor but it is downright atrocious on my wife's '00 323iA. And I love listening to talk radio and NPR on AM! The FM reception in both is acceptable but not great. I prefer a rod. I actually like having both. Infiniti used to have a grid one for when you first turned it on but then it switched to the rod one as the power antenna rose. Think they called it something like dual diversity. Might have even switched signals while in use depending upon which brought in better signal strength.
  • jim52jim52 Posts: 161
    I believe Edmunds also has the updated invoice pricing.
  • jwilson1jwilson1 Posts: 956
    1943473, if I can save you some big bux, will you split with me? Try this: buy a Bose Wave radio, $600 or so, add the CD ... what the heck, go all out. Buy a Hyundai Optima (luxury car), plug the Bose into the power outlet, send me a check.

    You're welcome!

    Take care.
    Joe W.
  • riezriez Posts: 2,361
    jwilson1... an inexpensive car like a Kia Optima or Honda Civic gets better radio reception than a loaded $50,000 530iA or $60,000 540iM? Ya gotta love all the speakers, DSP, etc. that are there to make your listening a true pleasure, and then what comes out when you listen to the radio??? Poor reception. BMW can and should do better with their sound systems. Don't think that is asking too much in this price range. Esp. if you have the optional premium sound system. Do you?
  • razteorazteo Posts: 38
    I don't want the CD-changer in the trunk!
    What I found out is that I have to pay over $1,100 for a "in dash single CD player" at any BMW dealer. Plus tax. Plus labor(labor at BMW is $90/hour, same as brain surgery!) The price is beyond ridicule, in my opinion, but I don't see any other solution..
    I went to "The Good Guys" and other places like that, and they told me is nothing after market compatible for my car.
    The only solution is to get a CD changer in the trunk for over $750(!), and I don't want the thing in the back! I want it in the dash!

    What can I do? Did somebody know a solution for this? I got the feeling that I'm not the only one unhappy to spend over $1,100 for a $150 CD player, or to lisen to radio/books on tape...
    Thank you in advance for any kind of help.
  • div2div2 Posts: 2,580
    The BMW Changer can be had for $400, and installation is very easy. Yeah, it's not in the dash, but for $800 less than an in- dash player I think I could live with it...
  • snagielsnagiel Posts: 750
    I believe I've read the in-dash CD player can be had for roughly $500 from Pacific BMW, and installation is relatively easy (plug and play job). Perhaps there's an article on about it...
  • $43k even sounds like a pretty decent price after the 1% invoice price increase. I picked up my exactly the same 530 sans Xenons for $42k before the price increase.
  • jwilson1jwilson1 Posts: 956
    I enjoy the sound of the engine. And I often enjoy, when I'm not on the xway beating heck out of the road, the sound of the wind when it rises and falls with speed on a winding road. And the engine when it winds up in second gear, and down in second gear, with the wind washing in.

    I play the radio when I need to hear a traffic report. I've been known to listen to a CD or two once in awhile on a long trip across NY state. But ...

    I like to imagine that the BMW engineers sort of feel like me, that the radio is a necessary and unpleasant intrusion on the wind and -- did I mention the engine. Especially with a BMW, I wonder if there is any music as sweet. Maybe, sure, but who cares in second gear?

    My thought, and I'm not being sarcastic, is that people who think so much of sound should actually do like the kids on the strip; get an econocar and fill it full of wonderful speakers. Maybe a Lexus or a Lexus wannabe, something cushy that doesn't really care about second gear, or the wind, or the sound of the engine.

    It's time for my treatment now.

    Take care.
    Joe W.
  • dabimmerdabimmer Posts: 165
    I totally agree with what you posted, I read in these posts about the poor sound system
    in the Bimmer. I have the standard 10 speaker set up and I am thoroughly content with
    it. It's the best sound system I've had in any car . My home system is probably superior
    but I don't hear the difference. I'm more interested in the wonderful growl of the engine
    and the sounds coming at you as you slice through space at 70 or 80 mph. Don't need to travel any faster than that either. Am thoroughly satisfied with Steptronic also, manual
    would be great but wifey can't negotiate a stick shift. Love, love this car( 530IA, step,
    xenons,fold down seats, alloys, sport and luxury pkg, and the wonderful Anthracite
    color and black leather). Couldn't possibly enjoy any car any more than this one. Gotta
    go now for an exhilarating ride down the coast. Best regards.
  • jim52jim52 Posts: 161
    I am debating between the Sterling Grey and Steel blue metalic. I'd like to see the color on a car before choosing but unfortunetly I have not been able to find a steel blue car on the lot. Has anyone seen one and if so what is your opinion on the color. I'd probably choose the sand interior to go with it. Again, any opinions. Also, the brochure lists black interior as the only one going with sterling grey. The dealers I've talked to said I could get it with any color interior. Has anyone seen a sterling grey with grey leather and if so how did it look.
  • snagielsnagiel Posts: 750
    I saw steel blue on a 3-series when deciding on color (they didn't have a 5-series in that color), and it seemed too soft and, well, feminine. Just my opinion. I would pick the Grey, no doubt, between the two--much sharper (yet hotter in summer and more difficult to keep looking clean).
    FWIW, I chose Toledo Blue, and I'm very happy with it (especially with the Sand leather and Vavona wood interior).
  • Thanks for your advice ... I'll follow your leads!
  • I saw both the Steel Blue and the Sterling Gray in my "local" (45 minutes away) dealer's lot. Twice, in fact. The first day was overcast, the second day with bright sun.

    I liked both colors a lot the first day. In fact, the word "regal" quickly came to mind when I first saw the Sterling Gray. The Steel Blue looked like a bold medium blue.

    On the sunny day, the Steel Blue appeared almost purple from some angles (like those pearl-colored Revo sunglasses). As for the Sterling Gray, on the sunny day, every single speck of dust and road dirt (parked right next to a major street) showed very clearly. Almost as though the car was one of the two shades of black. I was very disappointed. The sales manager did say that the best color combination with the Sterling Gray was "without question" the sand interior.

    The car that really impressed me on the sunny day was the Water Blue. Different enough in color so as not to be easily confused with the ubiquitous Titanium/Silver but also light enough in color not to show all the dust and dirt. A true character all of its own!

    Are there any Water Blue owners/leasers out there that could comment? Any remorse or is everyone still pleased? Also, gray interior?

    Thanks in advance for your thoughts and good luck jim52!
  • I went with the Sterling Gray w/ Black interior for my 02 530ia. Before ordering, the dealer had a Sterling/black and Sterling/gray 5-series on their lot. The gray interior did look nice but I thought the black looked better. I know that color selection can be very subjective. mcq7159 stated that his sale mgr felt the sand was the best interior color when ordering the Sterling Gray. My sales manager made the same statement. I would have been more comfortable making that decision if there was one on the lot. Otherwise I am very happy with my decision. For the moment there are very few Sterling Gray 5's on the road.

    530ia w/ PP, Step, DSP, Xenon's, Cold & Heated Wheel
  • razteorazteo Posts: 38
    Please tell me where to look, or give me the web address for that Pacific BMW, I will like to contact them regard my wish to change the tape with a in dash CD player.
    You know what? I asked all over, at all dealers around me, and they charge $515 +tax for the unit, and another $400 for "core", or something similar, is no way to get it witout that $400 tax!
    Please let me know how to contact that Pacific BMW.
    Thanks a lot. razteo
  • snagielsnagiel Posts: 750
    I have no idea what that "core" is. Here are a couple dealers I've heard offer good deals on parts and accessories:

    As far as installation goes, like I said try posting on the forums, and someone will probably point you in the right direction.

  • cmr530icmr530i Posts: 278
    I love my 530i with Premium Sport in it's "ubiquitous" Titanium Silver for these reasons: a. it turns heads including mine on a daily basis b. it turns heads including mine on a daily basis c. it turns heads including mine on a daily basis.
    I could mention more, but why? (Just had to express myself!)
  • jim52jim52 Posts: 161
    What other costs, in addition to those listed on Edmunds, can legitimately be included in the calculation of dealer invoice? A dealer I recently spoke with had the invoice price around 400-500 higher than what I calculated. I think most of the difference was some advertising cost that they get hit with. How much is this? Through others on this board I have heard that a good deal is 1500 to 2000 over invoice. Are they talking about base invoice or "invoice" including all of the other costs? Do the dealerships get additional profit from other sources (i.e. holdback, etc.)
  • I looked at three different colors Sterling Gray, Steel Blue and Slate Green or is it stone green. All 3 were good colors but I liked grey the most. I have ordered ST. Gray, black leather, steptronic,, pr. sound, lubar and xenon. Would have liked to go with Sports and stick but wife didn't like it.
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