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Did you talk with Nissan before having installed? Have you talked with Nissan since it was installed?
Aftermarket sunroofs often are more expensive. And you might have warranty issues. If you really want one, why not take the time to find one on a dealer's lot or incoming and just buy that one???
I got my GLS in Sept 2000 also, and have noticed that the brakes could be a bit better, but I try to drive defensively as best I can, and am certainly not a "late-braker". I don't have ABS on mine, but maybe those that do have better success.
sunroof-- As long as it's a decent company that backs up their work, I don't see the problem. A co-worker of mine plans to have an aftermarket sunroof put in on his son's Accent, but has concerns about the roof buckling, etc.
The way I look at it is that life is short, enjoy the extras that you can afford. Ten years from now I won't give a crap if the roof leaked or not. Ha Ha. Anyway, I'll give you all a report after Thursday when the roof is put in.
To giowa: I really appreciate your concern. I did look at five dealerships in Northern Florida and three of those checked other dealerships in Georgia and Alabama. No one could locate a 5 speed with Option 2. In fact, it was a task to find a 5 speed at all. I guess our market is full of old fogies that don't have the energy to shift. Ha Ha. Just kidding. Don't want to offend any automatic enthusiasts.
i had no problems at all. the reason i got one added was because at the time in 98, there were NO GXE Altima with ABS and roof. One or the other...but could not locate one anywhere in GXE form with both.
Definitely get a ASC one though...they are a big company that stands behind their work. They do the drop tops for the Camry/Solara and countless other cars....fairly reputable..
While she absolutely adores the car, there has been one annoying problem with the car going for a few months now.
Randomly my sister has to crank the starter for about 4 seconds (no kidding) for the car to start.
We first thought it was due to the cold weather, but that obviously was not the case.
I took the car to Fairfax Hyundai (in VA) last month for them to have a look at it. They said they made few minor adjustments on the engine; nevertheless, the car still had the same symptoms.
I took the car back to the dealership 2 days ago, and I have not heard from them yet. I crank my 96 Toyota only twice before it starts, and although I know very little about cars, I don't believe a new vehicle such as this should have such problems.
Service manager made it sound like this was not all that uncommon with Sonatas. Has anyone else experienced the same problem?
-Andrew C.-
I've read of the new 2002 model coming out from the http://www.santafeforum.com What do you think of the new model?
I definitely think 4 secs. is too long to crank.
If you don't get much in response, try over at
http://www.t-h-c.org/station-a1
in the Sonata forum. There is a Hyundai mechanic named Duke who posts there. Enter a post about this to him directly with his name in the title.
I put a picture of the interior provided by Yoon (yk911) as wallpaper on the 'puter and the first time my wife saw it she said I was tempting her.
Then I substituted the exterior shots and she just fell in love. And she is already quite in love with her '00 GLS. Naturally, I had to explain the economics of trading a two year old car.
After 3 days of testing, Fairfax Hyundai was finally able to duplicate the problem.
"Tommy" said my car was "really acting up this morning." Well.. duh! Did he think I made it all up and left the car there for 3 days for nothing?
They told me they were going to order a fuel pump.
Does that sound right? (thanks to my ignorance)
Engine wasn't getting enough gas? Hmm...
Anyway, I will check out that t-h-c forum.
Thanks again!
-Andrew-
Ask the tech if he found the fuel pressure to be 37 psi @ idle or 46 psi without vacuum hose. These are spec. Sometimes fuel pumps go bad on an intermittent basis and it takes awhile to trace. Several pressure tests might have to be done over a longer period.
There is a lead here for some of you maybee.
Please check my note some 2 weeks ago.
Cheers
Pat
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Tommy in service dept. said something like, "oil pump pressure was too high, which caused ???(don't remeber what he said) valve to open up and engine had no compression built up."
Basically he was talking over my head (again), but does that make sense to you?
Anyway, I guess I will have to take the car back to Fairfax Hyundai on Monday to find out. Fortunately, they promised to provide me with a rental this time. (I guess they felt sorry for me after having the car for 3 days)
I will let everyone know if the replacement oil pump really fixes the starting problem.
Thanks. ^^
-Andrew C.-
At about 25,000 miles started have idle problems, thought it was bad gas. The idle turned into major bucking & almost stalling at stops. After the car spent the day at the garage, where they claim to have found nothing, I took them for a ride and within 5 minutes I was told I needed a NEW TRANSMISSION. While this was being repaired they broke a steering column pin. I love this car, but once the garage has worked on it one problems leads to another. Unfortunately they are the only Hyundai dealership in the area. That makes me think twice when I think of trading in the future.
I was told it has 6 speakers but I can only find 4....Does anyone know if there are really 2 more or the dealer is mistaken? He said that the other 2 are in the top right side of door panel; it just looks like an oval (with no sound coming out???) I paid 15,500 bottom line (tax DMV and all) Did I do OK with the price? I was hounded to get the extended warranty for 859.00 but I didn't think it was necessary. Does anyone think so...I can change my mind when I pick up the car. Thanks so much for your help...
I would concur, however, that the smart Hyundai buyer plan to own and drive the car for at least 4 years and 50,000 miles, if not more. Don't buy a Hyundai or Kia or Daewoo and intend to trade it in in 2 years or so. You will likely get a heavy depreciation hit.
Smart buyer negotiates a good deal, goes for the discount financing, and then holds onto it. You pay way less up front in current dollars knowing you may get less back in end in future (i.e., depreciated dollars).
Current Hyundais, esp. Sonata, Sante Fe, & XG300, are competitive vehicles at great prices! (I'm not a fan of anyone's economy cars, Hyundai, Honda, Ford, or otherwise. My bias.)
You need to RUN to another dealer for service...OR...go to a service shop that does the scheduled maintenance in competition with the dealers. They should specialize in foreign cars, however. I have had great success with this service option and I routinely find a more personal relationship can be formed with the owner/techs. They treat your car with respect because you are usually allowed to wander around or at least use the see-through window.
Fern4,
There are at least six speakers. I haven't popped any covers off to see if any of the larger ones are two-way piggy-back but your missing ones are right there in the A-pillar. They are tweeters.
And you can buy an extended wrap-around(the 10/100K drivetrain)warranty to take your bumper to bumper coverage to the same. Just go on any any search engine and type in Extended warranty.
Jpvwaudi,
Thanks for the useless input. The only VW that is worth anything as a car is the Passat. It is still German built. But then you've got that lovely 2/24 to keep you happy. And when 'parts' time comes...oh those lovely German prices! Volkswagen ranks down in the lower half of quality with Hyundai and a lot of others. Get a brain...then come back.
Giowa,
Don't take umbrage. These guys are like kids with a new toy. You just have to wait for the batteries to die.
Now that we have moved to our new platform, we no longer have the requirement to stop and restart discussions after the numbers of posts exceed a certain limit. To keep from confusing our newer members down the road, we are going through the discussion list bit by bit and dropping the "part" numbers associated with some of our extended discussions.
Since this will be the permanent home for discussion of the Sonata, I have removed the "3" from the title of this discussion and altered the archived version to distinguish it from this one.
Please continue.... but play nice.
Pat
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GAP insurance-- I only recommend this for anyone financing through the dealership or other institution that charges "simple interest", which gets calculated sort of like sales tax, in that you owe the entire interest even if you pay it off the very next day. My credit union's deal was better, in that the interest is charged more like a credit card, saving me money if I want to pay it off early or the car is totalled. The GAP insurance the dealership offered me was about $500, which amounted to about $20 extra per month, which wasn't worth it for me.
Resale value: I'm pretty sure most people who shop for a Hyundai know that it's not like a Honda or Toyota in that department.
Extended Warranty--probably not needed, but some people might prefer it.
Transmission replacement--- I'd definitely get a second opinion.
As for the Gap insurance issue, at least in my state (NJ), there are no pre payment penalties (extra payments reduce the principal.)I'm not familiar with the banking laws elsewhere....
P.S. I only tried the right rear as my starting point. It was getting dark and I was only using the car jack so I couldn't do much more than feel around from behind.
Kind of like people who mow their yards at night and wonder why they look so poorly mowed the next day.
You shoulda seen me out there with my mallet banging on the back of the tire and inside the wheel on the spokes.. Anything to get some movement. I told my neighbor who was parked beside me working on his car at the time that it seemed like there was a heat bond that had formed. So your suggestion makes perfect sense. I just couldn't find a good pry spot as the alloys are easy to scratch.
Giowa---
Now you know I have more sense than to do anything like that in the DARK. I said it was gettin' dark...at least a half hour or so left of light. Just enough time to do the rotation if the damn things had come off! But you should've seen the look on my neighbors face when I started whacking on that tire!
1. I have a smell when I turn on airconditioner. sometimes even "smoke". It started last fall. any ideas?
2. my car pull left. i have to always keep the steering weel. if I release it, it always pulls to left. dealers said that it's different pressure in tires or balancing. but it's not.
http://members.nbci.com/sonatafan/index.htm
Also, I agree with liljonson...it sounds like an alignment problem, especially if the left drift/pull is fairly quick. Balancing problem would give off tell-tale vibrations and noises in front end. Inflation difference which causes a quick drift/pull would be fairly obvious and easy to check.
I always thought that I was supposed to change the air filters every 6,000 miles but when I read the manual, it recommended changing every 30,000 miles. So I'm a little confused about how often I should be replacing it. BTW, I commute to NYC from NJ. Your expert opinions will be greatly appreciated. Chao.
1. 13k miles on my Sonata.
2. "smoke" is white. when I see smoke I smell it. Not every time I smell I see "smoke".
3. my car pulls left consistently, I wouldn't say too quickly. It was very inconvinient when I drove to Florida. I had always my hands on the weel to keep it straight. dealers couldn't fix it.
And if you are truly smelling smoke and seeing white puffs sometimes then you have to get it checked out. The heater core may be leaking, as John0 suggested. You should rule out any electrical problems.
Local Hyundai Service center cleaned drum brake dust and lightly sanded brake shoes. Still hear squealing sound. Hyundai service center even noticed front brake vibration > removed Rotors > turned them and no more vibration. Brakes work great, Just wondering if other Similar Sonata owners experiencing a brake noise...
Some of you old timers of this board may recall when my wife told me the window washer didnt work and showed me by pressing the button. I pressed it too and nothing sprayed out.
I took it in waited an hour and felt like a fool when the guy pulled the lever back to make it spray. I havent used my encyclopdias since we have been married and figured why question the button SHE was pushing now? How could SHE be pressing the wrong button!
Anyway, my 01 Elantra is doing well too with 5500 miles on it. It went through a period of pulsating and noisey brakes but seems to be fine now.
Tony
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