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I had a problem with my Kenwood powered subwoofer sliding all over the back end and occasionally knocking into my 12 disc Pioneer changer that was bolted down on the right side trunk floor. I didn't want the subwoofer screwed down because I need to be able to move it out of the way when carrying bulky items. Still, I couldn't have it careening around the trunk smacking into things. It actually affected my driving habits while I figured out what to do.
I went to a camping supply center and bought a nylon compression strap like you wrap around sleeping bags. Using this as the fastening device, I made some careful measurements of the subwoofer and the spare tire well cover, and I drilled two short self tapping screws (inserted through washers and the strap at the appropriate places) into the well cover. Then I placed the subwoofer over the strap and between the two fastening points, pulled the strap around the subwoofer, threaded the buckle, pulled the strap tight, and the subwoofer was anchored. I adjusted the amp and equalizer controls for the new position, and I was rockin'.
When I need to use the whole trunk floor, I can undo the strap and move the sub wherever I need to, including the rear seat floor if the seats are down. I have enough cable to do this. The strap and the screws lie flat and don't interfere with loading at all. (Just avoid scratching things by covering the screw heads.)
You might find you can do similar things for some of your flying cargo.
I'm a newbie here
What options have owners of the 2002 Sonata chosen?
Is a Xenon headlight option available on the 2002 sonata?
Is it an option on the upcoming XG350?
Otherwise I may have to add an aftermarket option but I would rather have them from the factory.
Can anyone provide some info on this?
Thanks
Still loving my '00 Sonata with ~18k miles
Have had a couple of problems which were all fixed by the dealer at no charge-although it was a bit of a bother dropping the car off.
Funny, how a Japanese would like a Korean car, isn't it?
And I have a question: is the 2002 model a "redesign" or a simple "facelift"? Isn't it too closely related to the current version?
Why doesn't Hyundai just change everything about the Sonata?
And the latest Sonata came out in 1999, isn't it a little early for a redesign?
Is the 2002 model and redesign or a simple facelift? That's a big mystery to me.
I know that the headlights on my
Sonata are brighter by far than many other cars without xenon
They really project on the road well
That's another reason that builds my confidence in Hyundai
hyundai cars are popular all over the world incl. Europe, Asia and elsewhere and now America
When I was in Asia this summer, I saw new Hyundai's in Hong Kong, Taiwan and even Japan, right in the heart of Tokyo, Ginza
It was an XG300 Model
Korea and Japan are not enemies like many people think
They are also hosting the 2002 WorldCup together
Akin to the relationship between England/France,Germany or France/Germany... like brothers they fight and make up throughout...also like competitors but not enemies
In order to face my remorse head on, I went to a dealership to examine the car first hand, and yes, it is a different vehicle in many important respects. Much to my surprise, however, I saw much that was quite familiar and eventually my feeling that I had missed something really big was gone.
Yes, the front and rear are changed. There's a more powerful V-6. The trunk has been modernized with struts, a DC outlet, and emergency release handle, although otherwise it's the same. The center console is different, though not necessarily better, and the interior seems quite a bit like the 2001. And there are other tweaks here and there.
Still, I left feeling that while there had been some significant modifications, it was still basically the same car. I'm sure an engineer could tell us if there are more significant changes that the average person like me wouldn't notice.
Don't we need some changes? We need more changes than some tweaks here and there.
The last generation and this generation are basically the same thing!
OH Matsomoso, you dunno how much Koreans are ambitious to prove that they are better than Japanese at least one thing. If say, a Korean company beats a Japanese company in something, it's breaking news coverage. And the Korean soccer team's reputation goes down if they lose to the Japanese, and goes up when the beat the Japanese..
aniryu- A few posts back, there was this political debate about Korea vs. Japan...and frankly nobody cared and the host deleted the posts. Get the hint?
First of all, are you saying that the 2002 Sonata is marely a "facelift"? So it's not a redesign? It's not a totally new car? So the 2005 Sonata will get a NEW ENGINE? A NEW INTERIOR? A NEW NEW NEW NEW COMPLETELY NEW STYLING?!!! *drools* this is getting me EXCITED. Yipee! *jumps up and down*
Thanks..
I suggest you do 36 months, much better.
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Cool! I can't wait to see it! I hope that it is MUCH better than the current version! I also hope that it can get up in rankings like the Elantra!
I'm sorry, I thought this forum was about the Hyundai Sonata. Excuse me for raining on the Korean pride parade.
Thanks.
Pat
Host
Sedans Message Board</i
The total cost for this car over the life of the loan is so far below a much less well appointed Japanese, American, or European car that any loss in resale value (IF I ever resell it) is more than compensated.
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Yes, it's true the forum is strict, but it's fair. I think there are forums out there that allow car enthusiasts who favor one car or another to air their competing views. If a Korean car vs. Japanese car forum doesn't exist, I'm sure it can be created. (Actually, I think I've posted on one somewhere.)
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Hyundai MC is a Korean company and the Sonata is one of its products, built with pride by Korean workers. As an American, I'm very comfortable with that. I vote with my dollars and my public support of the car that I respected enough to purchase, despite some razzing by American, European, and Japanese car buying friends. I'm still happy and proud after 5000 comfortable, enjoyable, trouble free miles.
value, where else can you buy a 4 door sedan with leather V6 sunroof and
traction/ABS for 19K. But it is still buyer beware. I did my best to
go over every detail having read about various paint problems and the
transmission problems discussed in this and the xg300 forum and was pleased
with it as delivered. The next day when I drove it cold the transmission
slips on the 2-3 shift same as the xg300's. It is fine once warmed up but
there's no way the dealer could have not noticed it outta the box. Now I
wait 2 plus weeks to get a loaner so they can "take a look at it". I have
purchased 5 "Japanese" cars over the last 5 years for myself and my family
and if I think about it have never in the last 20 years drove a car out of a
dealership with a transmission problem. Your kidding yourself if you think
korean quality is up to par with there japanese counterparts. I'm sure it
will get fixed but read the hyundai forums then read the japanese forums,
you get what you pay for.
Toyota had no units for this so they wanted me to wait untill they could get one in. I said NO WAY so Toyota gave me another new car off the lot since my paperwork did not get processed by the state. My 2001 Sonata run just fine and I have not noticed any problems with it. It now has 2000 miles on it. I traded in my 2001 Elantra for this and that had 11,000 problem free miles. I still think Hyundai builds and excellent car. Sometimes you will have a problem even with the best of them.
A transmission is a significant component, and you'd think that they'd be thoroughly checked out, but the reality is the dealer can't check (or doesn't) everything. Sometimes vehicles are practically sold "off the truck" (like my '97 Dakota) to impatient buyers (like me) who have to have something NOW. Even if a car has been on the lot for a while and totally PDI'd, that doesn't necessarily mean the car's been driven beyond first or second gear or that it's been out on the highway to see if it can run at cruising speeds with the a/c on full blast to see about durability.
I've had customers (I used to sell VW, Audi, and Porsche) who refused to purchase a car with more than 20 miles on it. One guy demanded less than 10 miles on a car before he'd buy an Audi A6 4.2. Right after he bought it, it died on the 110 Freeway in lane three and wouldn't budge. What a mess! So dealers can't always get the vehicle out for a road test or drive it too much because customers might balk at purchasing it.
Anyway, I guess I'm saying there's more involved here than just Korean quality. As you can see, Japanese, American, German, or French, I've had disappointments with them all, but each of them worked fine in the long run. In fact, the ONLY car I've had delivered in perfect condition and that's kept running without a problem in the first several months is my 2001 Hyundai Sonata.
I'm sorry to hear about your tranny problems on your 2002 and wish you the best in getting it resolved.
Yes, I think the behavior of Toyota (based just on what the posters are saying) is pretty bad, but are the posters telling us the whole story.
And just how many posts about sludging are real and how many are the same person posting under different names? Are all the posts really by actual Toyota product owners or are some posts actually done by people working for the competition?
You have to take all the posts (the good and the bad) on Edmunds with a grain of salt.
Anyone else experience this problem? Does it happen a lot?
Thanks, Waxy
So let's not go too deeply into those issues here in a completely unrelated discussion.
Thanks!
Pat
Host
Sedans Message Board
BTW, how do you guys feel about the plastic grill? I think it cheapens Sonata's overall look. IMO. Chao.
With those two exceptions I think the 01's have certain advantages, especially the fact that the 02 base cars come with steel wheels and wheel covers. I still kind of like the looks of the older car, more distinctive in some ways-- actually might prefer the front end treatment. Also liked the availability of a 5-speed on the 01's.
The Sonata looks good- it just doesn't resemble other Hyundai models.
Killerk: I do think that the 2002 grill is less attractive, especially compared to the cat's grin grill on the 2001 GLS/GLS Leather.
csandste: Yeah, I was surprised at the steel wheels with plastic cover, and I was also surprised at how much I didn't like the wheels on the high end models. I think the wheels on the 2001 GLS/GLS Leather are much more attractive. (I do know that some folks like the style of the alloys on the 2002, just not me.)
I do like the 2002 tail lights a little better than the 2001. All in all, though, I still prefer the over all feline style of the '99-'01 models better than the 2002.
I agree with diploid that even in 2002, the Sonata doesn't merge with the evolving Hyundai look, although it's moving in that direction by borrowing some styling cues (and not just from Hyundai cars). Perhaps that's another reason I prefer the look of the '99-'01 models: greater originality.
Now, if I could only retrofit that 2.7 V-6 and the Shiftronic...
years ago its dated. Read the xg forum there having an above average number of transmission problems.
I got my flag thanks for the hint guys