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  • I am the first to post in Hyundai Sonata 3!

    Car Update: I am now at 11,000 miles and have only had to take the car in once for non L,O,F service. The mass air flow sensor had to be replaced and was done so under warranty. I have also had a piece of door trim come loose and they will fix it when I come in for my next L,O,F.
  • Hey Drimple, being poster #2 is not bad either!

    Anyone have any thoughts on this??? I have no problems with the car, I change my own oil and filter. Check everything and even rotate my tires at each oil change......... I have not seen a dealer yet because I see no need....

    Am I missing something? Am I gonna 'get it' stuck to me when I do?

    Til I hear of someone draining oil better and neater than I do on my own cars, I am doing it.

    Lets hear it and go ez on me!!

  • astrolastrol Posts: 312
    Well somebody had to be #3. The wife says she really wants the fog lights. I have been to and the US $ they quote is $80. However, FocusHyundai in Canada has a fog light kit which is more expensive, even after the exchange rate conversion.
    Does anyone know the difference between these fog light sets? I know the Canadian one includes an interior trim replacement piece for dash mounting. I wonder if the other kit is meant to mount on the column as originally designed?
  • astrolastrol Posts: 312
    The SharkRacing site says the lights come without wiring or switch. I assume they are meant for vehicles that are pre-wired.
  • volfyvolfy Posts: 274
    I asked HyundaiUSA Customer Service this very question before and the answer was that it is okay to do your own maintenance or have it done at an independent shop as long as you keep your dated receipts and/or any other records of having done the work.

    Hyundai will honor the warranty as long as the proper maintenance schedule is followed. Even when some problems does occur and you haven't done all the required maintenance, they will still honor it so long as the missing maintenance items have not caused the problem directly or indirectly. For example, if you can't prove you changed the oil/filter as specified and your wiper motor goes, they will still fix it under warranty since there is no possible way the two things are linked.

    Hope this makes you feel a bit more at ease. Feel free to call HyundaiUSA Customer Service if you have further questions. Every time I called them they've gone out of their ways to answer my questions. Just be sure to return the courtesy and not bother them with every pettily little question. IAW, it probably would not be nice to ask: "Would fuzzy dice be a factory option for the 2001 Sonata?"
  • lngtonge18lngtonge18 Posts: 2,228
    Did no one else discover the ridiculously high price that woohou stated the orginal owner paid for his Sonata? There is no way that a 95 cost 24K. A fully equipped Sonata back than stickered around 18-19K with every possible option. So the most he could have paid was around 20K with taxes, but even that is unlikely because the cars were heavily discounted to sell them. Putting the real price into perspective shows that it didn't loose its value nearly as bad as woohou would like you to think.
  • astrolastrol Posts: 312
    I did notice that but chalked it up to the standards of that particular tale of woe. Although I did just get through reading a review posting at on an Oldsmobile Alero (4cyl., mind you) where the person reported their PURCHASE price of 24K.
    I think I missed my calling...should have been a car salesman/dealer.

    On the maintenance issue---I shoot for 5K as a compromise between the 3K (hard duty) and the 7.5K
    (factory). Having followed this oil/filter change routine, I have to say that the engine on my '95 Sonata 4 just as strong as ever.
    On the paint issue---the '95 is Dark Rosewood and we still get compliments on it. If it wasn't for the door dings, it would almost look new. Dated, but new.
  • auxaux Posts: 2
    I bought my 2000 Sonata GLS Automatic with package 12 last month. So far I had put over 2000+ miles on it. I went with 0.9% 36 month after rebates and trade in. I think it was best deal I could possibly find for the goodies that Sonata GLS offered.

    My car manufacturing date is Dec 31, 1999. A car finished on new year's eve? I don't know what to think of it. I'd better assume Robots in the assembly plan don't drink champagne.

    Anyways, I am pleased with my purchase and driving experience so far. I looked everywhere for possible paint defects many of you talked about.
    Didn't find any so far even after numerous trials of pressing against trunk hood with my gigantic right thumb.

    If anything, I noticed a touch of wabbliness when you give gas during sharp cornering at high speed, let say 30-40 mph at 80-90 degree angle.
    Or, Maybe am I asking too much?

    Anyways, I stopped at a Seven Eleven on the way home this afternoon. Interestingly, there were TWO sonata GLS' parked at the customer lots, therefore making it total of three sonatas GLS(including mine) at the same time. I thought that was weird considering the small population (40K)of my town. Anyway, I thought mine looked the best out of three (of course parked side by side) because mine is Ebony Black exterior with mysterious Florida tint job on the windows, not to mention the handsome driver :).

    I read about the Grandeur XG and saw the preview on the Hyundai Korean website. I am extremely happy about my Sonata but I will be the first one to own Grandeur XG when that beast hits the states. I have to admit that I was salivating when I saw the European Advertisement intro.

    Few days ago, after my salivating with XG ended when I found this picture of the Equus on the spy site of T-H-C.
    "Hyundai's ultimate weapon against them. 4.5-liter gasoline-direct-injection (GDI) V-8 makes 265 horsepower and 280 pound-feet of torque respectablely. This GDI engine is a brand-new which Hyundai and Mitsubishi developed over the years. The amazing thing about this GDI engine is that it saves fuel dramatically than conventional engines. The wheelbase of this car is 210 inches overall and the weight is 4641 pounds, which it outweighs the Lincoln Town cars. Hyundai already launched the car in April 1999, Korea. Hyundai currently has no plan to sell this car on the US market. " -- T-H-C --

    Now, here is My gripe with Hyundai Motor Company.
    Why are they keeping all their best cars available only in Korea. If the EQUUS
    was available in the states, I would certainly bypass the Grandeur XG. I want the experience of what the best of Hyundai could offer.

    Equus would be a good trade in target for me.
    I love flames.

  • astrolastrol Posts: 312
    Welcome to the Hyundai experience. You have picked the best available one, that's for sure. I'm curious. Why did you pass on the ABS? Or was there no choice?
    Here's hoping your dealership is decent and can service your new prize competently.

    P.S. Of course you thought it looked wife's Silver GLS is the prettiest one in Maryland...I'm certain.
  • auxaux Posts: 2
    I actually wanted the fully-loaded GLS. Unfortunately, ones with pk 13 were all sold out. My dealer threw in pin striping, environment protection package (I am not exactly sure what that is), Sunroof Wind Deflector, Custom Contoured Mud Guards, Color-Keyed Floor Mats With Custom Embroidered Vehicle Logos, first time oil change cost, and a touch-up paint bottle. All that for free. I am actually surprised that they gave me two programmed keyless entry boxes with 3 set of keys.
    The interior features that impressed me the most are
    1. comfortable leather seats:
    Front Driver Power Seat Adjusts 8 Ways Total Including Fore/Aft, Slide, Recline and Adjustable Seat Height. I think the driver seat lumbar (low back) support on this car is excellent.
    2. Premium ETR AM/FM Stereo With 120 Watts, 18 Presets Total Including 12 FM and 6 AM Presets and 10 Speakers Total; Auto-Reverse Cassette Player; Single Disc CD Player Integral To Radio.
    I still can't believe I got 10 speakers in this car.

  • lngtonge18lngtonge18 Posts: 2,228
    I got my new C&D magazine today. It is the 2001 new cars issue. The Sonata is unchanged in the power department. It does not get the 2.7 V-6 offered in the Santa Fe. The only changes include a new grill and a few trim revisions that they did not elaborate on. The XG300 will have a 192 horse 3.0 V-6 with 5 speed manumatic tranny and will be available somewhere between November and January.
  • Had my check engine light come on last week when I started it up in the morning. I took it in and they diagnosed it as having a misfire code. Dealership is ordering new spark plugs. They say no dealership around here stocks NGK Platinums for the Sonata. I thought that sounded remarkably strange. I asked how they came to the conclusion that it was a spark plug and the guy got real defensive and started arguing with me. At that point, I asked for my keys back and told him to call me whenever the parts came in and I would supervise the installation. I'm considering taking it to one of the other 2 Hyundai dealerships here because this guy acted like I was some homeless guy trying to bum money off him. I hope they enjoyed selling me this car last January because it's the last time they will have the opportunity!
  • astrolastrol Posts: 312
    Hello Aux,
    In case you haven't seen them, there are some excellent review sites out there on the new Sonata. A couple of my favorites are:

    I especially like The Car Place. I find I agree with Bob Bowdens' approach to things. I just got an e-mail from him telling me "the new Hyundai Sonata was one of the most impressive values I tested. Period. And I would be proud to own one. 'nuff Said".

    As to your comments I agree about the leather interior. I think it is impressive looking and comfortable while many competing ones are either one or the other.
    Too bad about the ABS. But you should not miss it if you live out of the bad weather zones.
    I find that the Sonatas have usually had good sound acoustics, no matter the revision. This upgrade package has excellent sound quality and my CD has yet to skip a beat.
    Throw a cargo net in the trunk if you didn't get one. You will use it. Enjoy your purchase.
  • Can you post where you found the TSB's on line? I have a 4cyl model and want to be armed and ready should I ever have to be.


  • Sorry to hear about your trouble. Did the guy clear the code for you? Did it come back?

    You can maybe clear the code yourself by removing the battery cable for a bit and while the battery is disconnected I hear turning the ignition key on a few times and even trying to turn headlights on will drain any residiual power that may be stored in some component and allow the computer to be reset.. As well as your radio presets !!

    Maybe it is/was a fluke thing. Maybe a bad batch of gas.

    If it is spark plug related, this would be the SECOND occurance I have read about. Spark plugs just dont go bad with such few miles.

    I would expect mine to look like new even after 50k miles.

    I may just go out and take one out and see. Maybe its time for those new BOSCH platinum-4's. I have them in my Ranger and they DO make a difference in mileage and power.

    Good luck with problem!

  • Got to thinking, I dont want to have folks think that removing the battery and possibly being able to clear the check engine light does NOT mean the problem is fixed or how to fix the problem.

    By doing resetting the computer by power cycling it, it may clear the error code and the problem may never come back IF it was triggered by something like cheap gas or extremely hot outside pulling a 5 ton boat up hill etc.... You know, something out of the ordinary that happened just for the moment and was trapped and stored in the diagnostic computer.

    I just dont want to mislead anyone. I know Sonatafan is really into his cars and just wondered if he tried this yet.

  • This is where you can get a list of TSB's for any car. You just can't get what the fix is unless you subscribe. The site will also list recalls if any.
  • I am sure many folks will benefit from it.

  • hi people! i have read through most of the posts and i am wondering about the oxygen sensor abnormalities.i have not picked up my car yet-is this something i should mention to the dealer?is this a specific v6 problem?i also read about"no chime for lights left on"yet my sonata has this(canada),maybe its a U.S. thing.anyways,i am concerned about this stalling,oxygen sensor,engine light on thing-if i could get your comments,please.
  • The Canadians get all the good stuff! Chrome grille, fog lamps, auto climate control, daytime runnings lamps, lights reminder chime who knows what else! I still think the U.S version is an excellent value right off the lot.
    I have been a member of Alldata for a few years but i haven't logged into the archive for almost as many. I may just to poke around in the TSB's for the Sonata on the Alldata database.
    Tony: I did in fact reset the check engine code and it hasn't returned. I wasn't in the car when the code set so I don't know the conditions. My wife is far from being a hard driver so I'm sure it wasn't her doing.
    The guy at the dealership also acted like I was stupid for changing my own oil. He just all around ticked me off. Sorry to see people like this in the business.
  • Ya know if you didnt reset the code, that schlub at the dealer would've and surely charged Hyundai for some expensive misc stuff.

    Surprised he did not elaborate and specify that the spark bearings were beginning to seize or the tires still had spring time air in them.

    Good job ! I hope the light dont come back on, BUT if it does. you can tell them what you did and it came back.

    Good luck,

  • Hey guys I found I'm saving at least 20-30 cents a gallon on gas using priceline's gas card. You should check it out. The pump prices around here are now at $1.63 for regular and 10 cents more for super. I bought 30 gallons on priceline for only $1.33/gallon and the station is less than a mile away. There use to be a $3.00 a month fee but because of the tremendous response it is now free.
    By the way, my Sonata is getting 22 mpg driving 50/50 city/highway, A/C on. No other problems to report at 2000 miles. I changed my mind about the car, its a great little car. The dealer is what left the bad taste in my mouth. I'm over it.
    See ya,
  • It works, its kinda fun.

  • Priceline is great -- I bought Mobil gas here in the Chicago(!) suburbs for $1.18/gallon!!!!!!!

    However, about the gas, I accidentally filled up with mid grade. (And it cost me dearly because my Priceline purchase only applied to regular). But my 4-cyl Sonata actually ran much better and accelerated much more smoothly. This has me worried, because the car is supposed to run fine on regular octane, but will cut performance if there is any knocking detected.

    1.) So what could be causing knock in a brand new car with 4,000 miles on it????

    2.) Also, the dealer serviceman said the new low-emissions gasoline has much more ethanol in it than the prior limit of 10% (he said sometimes 30-40%) and that this can cause problems and low mileage such as this. Therefore, he said, stick to higher grade gas. Has anyone else heard of this? I'm a big ethanol supporter, but I always thought concentrations above 10% could damage non-flexible fuel vehicles.
  • My experience down here in Florida is that some brand gas does ping in my Ranger and I just stay away from that brand and station. It does not ping at all using other brands. Sonata does not ping on any fuel yet down here.

    Try a different brand before using a higher octane would be my first suggestion.

  • I'v tried my darndest to buy a Sonata w/pkg 13, but the dealers here in central NJ are sob's. I went to 2 a few weeks ago. I walked in past 4 salesmen standing by the door of one close to home. Waited inside about 10 minutes and was completely ignored so I walked out. Went to another (no pkg 13's left but could swap with another dealer). This dealer adds about $2000 in nonsense upgrades (undercoating, upholstery protector etc etc) to all vehicles. I wasn't interested in this. Went to a 3rd dealer on Friday. he had 2 w/pkg 13 in stock. He told me that pkg 13 cars are in high demand. He would let me test drive it only if I gave him a non-refundable $500 deposit. He claimed that he doesn't discount very much and his customemrs want a "fresh car" with few miles on it. I've given up on Hyundai's and will serch for another vehicle. it's too bad because I've heard and read a lot of good things abotu the Sonata. Maybe the dealers will change thair tunes in a few years when I go for my next vehicle.
  • do not give up yet. There is one more pawn you can play. Just tell them you are considering a
    Daewoo and they will bend over backwards and do
    tripple somersaults to please you. When my wife was looking for a car we told the Hyundai dealer that we are looking at the Daewoo Nubira and the monthly lease rate on the Sonata base GL suddenly dropped by $70 dollars and he changed it from $2600 downpayment to ZERO downpayment. My wife still went for the Nubira because she did not like the Sonata base seats (too soft, mattress like cloth). But with Hyundai you sure can bargain.
  • astrolastrol Posts: 312
    Understand your situation. You should know that there are very few cars which can be equipped as the Sonata w/pkg. 13 at anything near the price.
    The Alero has the equipment but does not have the safety rating of the Sonata nor the interior room and is usually a good deal more expensive (sunroof). The Malibu, I believe, does not offer side air bags but is comparable in final price. The Altima, while a very fine car, is also small inside and expensive for a 4 cyl. and offers no traction control.
    You need to expand your search area. It is true that 13's are in short supply but that is more a localized situation. Source your car from the web or any number of services available.
    Don't be dissuaded from a vehicle you have your sights on simply because of some A-hole dealers.
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