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Apart from the price difference, how does Audi A4 compare to a high end Jetta ( GLS or GLX )
By the way, I am thoroughly impressed with the TDI.The dealers I've spoken to have mentioned 3% over dealer invoice. Let me know if you strike a deal..I live in the Atlanta area.......
I did look for the steering wheel audio/cruise controls and none of the 2001 jettas had them. I would wait for them as well if they are a mid-year addition. Hopefully someone will have some information about the addition
I like to relate this story: I was in Ireland 5 years ago and we borrowed a Passat. Drove it all day and before returning it we filled it up with gas....................................................too bad it was a diesel......what I am trying to say is that it drove just like a gas engine car. No smoke, no smell, plenty of pickup.
just picked up my new 2001 GLS TDI Jetta with the works and it is awesome. I have all the goodies on it to include beige leather and steering wheel controls for cruise and radio adjustments. After owning a Ford Probe for five years, I could not be happier with this automobile. If your looking at getting this car feel free to write me
scott_a_tackett@hotmail.com
Good luck in your search and I'll keep you posted!
My wife and I just took a 99.5 Jetta for an extended test drive yesterday (the dealer handed us the keys and said "come back when you're comfortable with the car" WOW!...too bad he turned out to be a slug in the negotiations...another story).
Anyway...we got to really play with the car, and discovered how hard it was for my wife to see out the rear window. She's 5'2" tall and I'm 6'3" (No Snickering!)so I have no problem at all.
We tried taking the center headrest out, but the damn center light still sticks way up. We both kinda chalked it up to something you just have to get used to...we are currently driving an Escort hatchback...I can just about see the bumper of the guy behind me while I parallel park..
Does anyone have experience with this kind of problem? Do you just "get over it"?
Thanks!
BJAndersen
Regards,
GIC
Turns out before we started this whole thing I calculated an OTD price based on $460 profit (about 2.5%) and it came to $19,064! Now that's close!
Have fun with your new car! You will LOVE it.
My sole complaint (so far) is that fifth gear is not high enough. This translates into high engine revs at highway cruising speeds. (I find myself looking to shift one more time.) I realize that this eliminates some downshifting (in passing situations, for instance), but I would trade that for less wear and tear on the engine, quieter operation and better fuel economy.
In fact, fourth and fifth gears are so close that fourth is just about unnecessary.
Anyone else feel as I do, or have a response? Thanks.
-Jon
Second, cloth or leather? I've never had leather, and it's tempting, but some people complain about sliding around, heat, etc. Also, the cars I drove yesterday had this black "format"(?) cloth in them that I didn't care for -- in most places it had no pattern or texture, so it seems like it would show every speck of dust. The salesperson said that's all that comes in the 2001 model, but the vw website suggests otherwise. Has anyone seen the silver Jetta with gray leather? They didn't have any in that combination on the lot (the black leather looks really nice, but I get hot just looking at it).
Finally, is the sound okay without the monsoon option? I intend to add on the CD changer (though the prices I've seen -- around $375 -- seem high to me). The sound quality is important to me, but the costs on this car keep adding up -- I've got to give something up!
Any thoughts would be appreciated.
I agree that the VR6 would probably be overkill for you. For mostly city driving, the 2.0 would probably be sufficient (especially if you drove it and it seemed OK). I opted for the turbo because I originally wanted the six, but also felt it would be "too much". Also, the 2.0 will run on regular, while the turbo really does much better with premium (in my experience).
The seats are a problem. I've always preferred cloth to leather, but the cloth fabric in the Jetta is a velour that catches on your clothing and shows every dust particle and thread -- very hard to vacuum. The leather seats would be better, except that I found them to have an uncomfortable bulge under the thigh area. But if you don't find that to be a problem, I'd probably go with the leather.
Get the Monsoon system if you like music. I sounds better than any factory-installed car stereo I've owned. I chose the single-disc in-dash CD over the changer; I just can't see having to load CD's into the trunk. Since one CD gives me over an hour of music, what's the advantage to having a changer? Also, I too was initially quoted a ridiculously high price for the CD deck, and wound up getting it for free to clinch the deal.
Having said all this, let me add that I'm enjoying the car very much and, if you enjoy driving, you will, too. Hope this helps.
The VR6 is a tried and true tested engine....seems quite durable. I am sure the turbo will prove to be as well..... Also depends on the sounds that you like the car to make. The VR6 does have that sort of hot rod sound.....:)
Off the lot, I noticed a stall between 1000 and 1500 RPM...it happened without fail, accelerating or decelerating, in gear or out of gear. I was told it may be the engine block and scheduled a time to have it serviced.
Before I could bring it in for service, the battery light came on and stayed on for an entire day (I'm at about 500 miles at this point), at the end of the day, returning from dinner, the car went haywire...all of the internal warning lights were flashing on and off, the car was revving and decelerating on it's own and it eventually stalled out and would not start back up, when I tried to start it all of the warning lights, etc...flashed on and off and all I heard was a clicking noise.
I had the car towed in a week and a half ago to the dealership and was told that they were certain (right) that it is a battery or, more likely, alternator problem.
So now I'm at war...the dealership has had the car for over a week (10 days) and continues to tell me that the parts that they need are on order.
Has anyone heard of problems like this with the 2000 or 2001 Jettas? I
Get a new one.
Seats: It's a personal matter. When I test drove a car w/leather, I fell in love. I did not think they were too hot on 90-deg days since the a/c works well. On cold days, the heated seats are killer! I don't slide around, but others say they do.
Stereo: I really like the std radio with 6-disc changer. I like the variety and carry an extra magazine for more selection. I've never heard the Monsoon, but with the extra power, the sound will be cleaner. But to me, my deck sounds way better than any stock car stereo I've heard! I guess my point is that if you're looking to cut costs, and you don't have a professional ear for stereo, omit the Monsoon.
Good luck, and enjoy!
Question: Has anyone with a VR6 had any experience using regular unleaded (87 octane) vice the 93 octane that was recommended (and which I've used dutifully)?
Thanks.
The $19070 price is out the door. Actually this is my son's first car purchase. My last 2 have been Accords.
the Elantra is doing fine. It is not a Jetta, I can tell ya that
Elazurus -
A friend in Arlington said that Ray Burnette has turned around a little bit, so perhaps things are a little better now. I am sure you will do fine...
Before leaving for the dealer, I noticed my middle rear seatbelt was jammed, so I asked them to check it out. Svc mgr said many have come in and needed the whole mechanism replaced - turned out they fixed it without needing a new belt. Anyone have this problem or heard of it?
BTW, Justin, saw the 2001 Jetta w/sport suspension and racy 17" wheels - SWEET!! But, you're a Hyundai man now, right? He he!
Also compared Volvo V-70 2.4T wagon and VW Passat VR6 wagon. Size and comfort nearly equal. Volvo more gizmos and airbags for 9K more (better cup holders too). One day I'm going to replace our minivan with a eurowagon
I thought it was the old 2.2 liter turbo Chryslers that had to have cool down periods. What does the owners manual say? I can't believe 90's tech would dictate that you have to leave the car running for a few minutes to cool down....seems a little "off"...
I'll look in my owner's manual, but I doubt you need to cool down a 90's turbo, especially a low-pressure one.
BTW, I was back through DC last weekend, and I'm still glad I left! Got stuck behind an accident a mile from my exit off 295 - how typical...
policy of engine *cool down* that is normally
45-60 seconds has been cut by more than half.
Basic physics here...that turbo gets hot and expands with the heat; when the the engine is turned off without a cool down(letting cooler water and oil to pass through it so that cooling is gradual)the contraction is more dramatic & that
hot oil stays there and gets sludge like as well as stressing the metal turbo. Fifteen seconds or
so should do the trick and you'll all be fine. Just turn off the CD or AC first, or roll up the
window... that's all the time you should need and shut her down...happy driving!!!
But - since you do put so much wear and tear on cars, I would keep your little Protege too, let it take the beatings. You will want to keep your Jetta in good shape. That is what I plan to do - keep the Hyundai....it is so cheap that it would be dumb to get rid of it, with the warranty and cheap insurance and all.