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VW has chosen to limit sales of TDIs in CA during 2001 to 800 units. Many of these have already been delivered (looks like it was mostly Beetles and Golf 4 doors). No CA dealer will be able to sell anymore TDIs this year to CA customers once the 800 cars allocated have all been spoken for. There is a similar situation in NY, and perhaps Mass too (but I'm not certain about Mass). TDIs are always in short supply, making finding the exact car you want at a decent price hard... this additional restriction by VW sales makes it just that much harder. If you're persistent, you can probably still find something close to what you want... tho' as mentioned above you'll have an easier time of it if you're willing to go out of state to do so. You CAN register cars purchased from out-of-state in CA (for example) w/o hassle.... all US VWs have the exact same 50-states-legal emissions certifications. The 800-cutoff is a SALES policy adopted by VW, not any kind of state law. Very recent used TDIs (a year or two old) can often tend to cost very close to what MSRP on a new TDI costs, due to the high demand. Of course, considering used cars opens up your choices somewhat and can reduce your search time.
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My understanding is that TDI is 50 state emissions legal and can be registered in New York. A very limited number of new TDI's are sold in New York. Same situation in CA.
Call NY DMV to verify the above.
With $10K OR $15K down, they won't go any lower than 6.9%, and quoted me rates up to 14.9% depending on the term!!! My credit is good, and he said all "approved" customers get the same rate.
And he said the rate depends on the state and location of the dealer. He said there are no 5.9% available on the WE anywhere, since it is a 'special' model.
This has me all so disgusted, esp. since most other manufacturers have rates < 3% currently.
I don't know what to think. Am I being jerked around? I am this || close to start looking for another type of car.
Any input would be appreciated on rates people here have just obtained, and your location.
- tommy
It specifically includes the Wolfsburg in the financing campaign. While it does say that dealer participation varies, they have changed it to include the Wolfsburg. I know this is true because I bought mine April 24th. When I checked the financing page the week before, the Wolfsburg was explicitly excluded, then it changed, about a week after I bought my car(of course!)
The site specifically states that rate for the Wolf start at 3.9%, while other models start at 2.9%.
Maybe you should talk to another dealer, if they won't come clean. Are they even going through VW credit?
Good luck!
Anyway, this dealer gave me a rate of 6.9% for 60 months - as per the VW site; BUT, when I asked about 48 months, he quoted a rate of 9.9% (instead of 5.9%) since the WE is a "special" model - and pressured that I was much better off going with the "lower" 60 month payment - and also that he could not guarantee that 6.9%/60 rate later this week if I didn't complete the paperwork. This screamed of kickback.
Tomorrow I am going to request a refund of my deposit - I definitely sense some b.s. here and I will approach other dealerships in the area.
Kinda' sux, it's too bad VW doesn't have a bit more control over their dealerships' finance operations. You'd think the Germans of all people would have a very strict and orderly process!
thanks.
*B*Tier 4.40%24, 5.40%36, 6.40%48, 7.40%60
unless, of course, you are in a major market...LA., NY., etc.
To me, time is Money...would I waste my time trying to hondle a .003% discount
on anything...probably not..75 divided by 25000.
Latte from Starbuck's $2.50 - .003%=$.0075...
1) What VW's retail price is for a bike rack/roof rack?
2) If it is worth not getting a stock CD changer and then buying one from Panasonic etc?
3) If it is worth getting the cold weather package...ie. does it work?
4) What the extended warranties are like? How much?
And my final question...Should I get the WE? Has anyone out there had any serious problems...like the engine?
Thanks for all your help. This site has been awesome!
Go to http://www.vw.com for pricing. They have an online catalog for ALL accessories there. Heck, you can even get VW barbeque sauces!!
2) If it is worth not getting a stock CD changer and then buying one from Panasonic etc?
The Panasonic is much cheaper and is virtually the same unit that VW installs. You will also need an adapter. Go to http://www.crutchfield.com The install is very easy and is best done with the brackets from VW.
3) If it is worth getting the cold weather package...ie. does it work?
The heated seats are awesome on a cold evening. Open the sunroof and crank on the butt warmers. My wife thinks it's romantic. I haven't had the need for the heated mirrors or window washers as I garage my car. They do get warm though.
4) What the extended warranties are like? How much?
That depends on your local dealer, It varies by area. Some banks and credit unions also offer these services. If you plan on keeping the car for some time, then it's worth it. Also, most of the extended warranties have cancellation provisions and you can get money back.
And my final question...Should I get the WE? Has anyone out there had any serious problems...like the engine?
The 1.8T is a very reliable engine. It's also used by Audi and is the same basic engine as in the awseome Audi TT. Also, if you are looking to 'tune' and 'chip' your car, this engine is very tunable and can be turned into a 200HP-plus monster!
Hope that helps!
-Jim
http://www.jettaownersclub.org
is really all about!
http://www.geocities.com/jettaownersclub/mexico.html
The 1.8T is an awesome engine. We also tested the 2.8 manual and found it to be almost too powerful for the size of the car. They also wanted 28K for a loaded GLX and I laughed as the salesman stood in front of the BMW sign as if it was a halo on his head. The only thing we did not get was leather. But the cloth seats are nice and sporty. And the price was very attractive for the options. Save your money and get the WE. You won't be disappointed.
When you say use the brackets from VW, do you mean the ones that are built into the car. Or are there brackets that the dealer should have given me, or purchased?
I purchased the Panasonic cd-changer and installed it in the little cubby hole in the trunk. It's vertical obviously, with the Panasonic brackets screwed in the 20% holes on the unit. I then screwed the brackets into the two holes (one on each side) of the cd-changer holder in the cubby hole. Did I install it properly?
Thanks
I dumped the Houston dealer after all their BS, and am working with the dealer in Dallas that has the car that was going to be shipped here to Houston (Blue/Black WE). No WEs with cold package down here at all
Anyway, the Dallas dealer has been very pleasant to deal with and said 6.9%/60months is their finance rate (as per VW website). They will also register/title the car in a different state (I'm a student) which the houston dealer was very reluctant to do (and they also quoted 14.9% APR 60 months if I didn't title it in Texas??).
I hope to drive up there and get the car in two weeks. My final cost is $20,300 before TTL for WE with monsoon/sunroof.
BTW: Has anyone used the open space in the console under the cup holders for anything other than a CD player? I thought about purchasing a navigation system, or the 4 cassette holder, but the $60 price tag @ vw.com seemed pretty steep.
do you know how to get the HU to display the play time on the display instead of the CD/Track information?
I can get it to display time ellapsed if I go forward/backwards on a track; however, the time displays for 3 seconds and then it goes back to the track info. Any ideas?
Also do you hear a 'click' sound from the speakers when you break or us=e the turn signal.
Thanx.
Press SCAN and hold until the VOLUME option shows up. Release the button. This is the volume that the HU defaults to when you turn it on, no matter where the volume was when you turned it off. You can adjust that with the volume knob.
With VOLUME showing, press SCAN again. Then you will see MIX1. To change it to MIX6 turn the volume knob. There are only two selections: MIX1 or MIX6. Then press SCAN again to take the HU back to normal mode. Now press MIX and it will play random tracks from all six cds.
-Jim
There is no way they will sell to me below invoice, and $20,500 + TT&L means the car itself is $19,200 - and there is no way to get that. Also the blues/blacks sell immediately here, so I offered the $500 premium to snag the car. I feel comfortable with my $21,600 out the door price. Only wish there was ONE WE in TX with cold package!
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Acquired October 25, 2000: 401 miles
Last Fillup: May 21, 2001: 21819 miles
Fuel cost since owned: $669
Ave diesel cost (per tank) $1.51
Gallons used (from 0 miles): 455
Running Average mpg: 47.8
(**After free 20K dealer service, last two tanks averaged 49 and 50 mpg, air cleaner was dirty)
Notes:
90% Highway miles (level, no hills)
Estimated Speed range: 70-90 mph
Typical cruise control speed: 79-85 mph
Mechanical Problems since ownership: None
Recommendations: Buy a TDI
Conclusion: Believe the hype
Thanks for all the comments... you people have been great!
I offered 20300 for the car ($600 over invoice) + TTL so I will be out about $21600 or so. This does not include any CD player.