Hyundai Elantra 5-door

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  • aznmontyaznmonty Member Posts: 66
    how true that is...i did enjoy that episode. and by the way, kramer does not take it to within a hair of empty, he took it all the way to empty.

    i believe you could get more volume into a tank at a certain time of the year when the vapors escape in the summer or was that the winter? that may explain the 14.75 in a 14.5 tank.
  • jacobi1jacobi1 Member Posts: 32
    I have a 2002 GT, looking to remove the front rotors. The back came off with no problem, having a tough time with the front ones though. Any tricks etc? As well, does anyone know if there is a Manual available for this year Elantra? thanks.
  • backybacky Member Posts: 18,949
    There's also the capacity of the vapor canister, which some hypermilers fill up to get extra range. I heard a long time ago that filling that canister can affect emissions, so I don't force-feed anymore.
  • jlflemmonsjlflemmons Member Posts: 2,242
    Once the calipers and caliper brackets are removed, the rotors should come right off. Now, sometimes you can get rust between the rotor and the hub, and that will make the boogers stick a bit. Lightly tap the area where the lugs come through the rotor and see if that helps.

    The Hyundai web site has excellent diagrams and "how to" instructions.

    Jim
  • jacobi1jacobi1 Member Posts: 32
    Great thanks for the info Jim.

    One question, what Hyundai web site are you speaking of? thanks!
  • dovid2dovid2 Member Posts: 90
    I didn't really try to get it that low, but my daily commute is about 75 miles, and
    I try to fill up only once a week. People are amazed that I get such good gas mileage, so I think the GT is a great deal!

    While they give the capacity as 14.5 gallons, I think it's probably just a bit bigger.
  • bikerpabikerpa Member Posts: 68
    hyundai tech website:

    Webtech, the most helpful auto manufacturer tech site available. caveat: only works with Internet Explorer.
  • lovetosavegaslovetosavegas Member Posts: 73
    It is not recommended to drive with low fuel. One of the reasons is that Elantra has a fuel pump in a fuel tank and it is cooled off by fuel. If you constantly will ride will too little fuel the pump maybe overheating and will have shorter life.
  • jlflemmonsjlflemmons Member Posts: 2,242
    Not just Hyundai. Most domestics have in tank fuel pumps, and have for many years. But if there is enough gas for the pump to pick up, there is enough to keep it cool.

    Now, debris in the tank is another matter. Low fuel can definitely cause fuel pick up problems for the pump.
  • aznmontyaznmonty Member Posts: 66
    i just got new tires at 53500 miles. goodyear eagle gt. anyone else have these tires? Preliminarily, they were pretty good...on a highway turnaround ramp 60mph when i usually had to take it at 45mph with the michelins. it is supposed to be really good on wet and slick surfaces. i am actually waiting for bad weather in chicago now... ;)

    the service manager was encouraging me to put the tires to the test because he had it for his focus and was very impressed.
  • backybacky Member Posts: 18,949
    I think it's amazing you got 53,500 miles out of the OEM Michelins! How'd you do that?? I only got 30k on mine before they were unsafe for winter driving. I probably could have gotten another 5-6k if it wasn't wintertime when I replaced them.
  • aznmontyaznmonty Member Posts: 66
    that is what the service manager said. the tread markers were my last treads. how i see it is that if you are driving on snow and not pavement during the winter months, there is less tire wear. my own thoughts...not based on anything.

    i was just going to go in for a rotation and oil change. glad i went to a tire shop for that...two birds with one stone. and apparently i have another 15k miles left on the stock brakes. so potentially something like 68k miles on the original brakes. we'll see...by december, you will see another post. i already put in for the ebc green stuff brakes. seeing how my rotors are edged, i might get a new rotor set if i feel happy one day. still need to get a sway/strut bars to stiffen up the cornering...but not sure if i want to do it anymore. oh well...

    took a ride in my friend's Maza 3. so sweet. so tight. so refined...even the thud from closing the doors. oh well...no time for envy, i paid 5k less. gt is not failing me. just more modding opps
  • bikerpabikerpa Member Posts: 68
    For what it's worth, I fatmatted my trunk area and now the car feels a lot more solid; that thud you are talking about, I feel it every time I close the hatch. I'm planning to do the same to the doors. Fatmat is a sound-deadening material (like dynamat, but slightly thinner and a quarter the cost). Does great. Also, if you're looking for tighter handling a la the Mazda3, the thicker Tiburon GT swaybar will go a long ways towards helping you out there. :)

    It's good to hear about your tire longevity - I'm at 20k right now and can't afford new rubber for at least another 14-15k. Thanks for letting us know!
  • backybacky Member Posts: 18,949
    At least the A/C works great on our Elantras, unlike for some owners of Mazda3s! ;)
  • jlflemmonsjlflemmons Member Posts: 2,242
    Is Mazda STILL having ac problems? Years ago a buddy had a GLC which was a nice little vehicle in all aspects except the ac. Every year he would take it to the dealer and have about a pound of freon added. (this was R12, before the enviro-[non-permissible content removed] convinced the government that we were all going to die from the hole in the ozone layer) Anyway, the dealer had checked out the system and found that it didn't have one leak, it had a whole bunch of small leaks and it just wasn't worth fixing. So, every year he would have a pound added. Even then the ac was just so-so.
  • backybacky Member Posts: 18,949
    The 3's A/C problem seems mixed, based on the discussion here at Edmunds.com--some seem to really have a problem, others don't. I'm keeping my eye on the 3 as a possible replacement for my '01 GLS when I give it to my oldest son next year, but with all the teething pains the 3 seems to be having, I'm not totally sold yet. Plus there'll be a new Elantra by then...
  • dovid2dovid2 Member Posts: 90
    We got about 60,000 miles on the OEM Michelins and front brakes on a 2000 GLS; the rear brakes still seem to be fine. So far I have 32,000 on my 2004 GT and little wear is visible. But then, I get a free rotation with every oil change.
  • backybacky Member Posts: 18,949
    I rotate the tires regularly but it didn't get my '01 GLS' Michelins past 30k. Anyway, I'm actually glad I got rid of them because I like the Kumhos I put on the car much better.
  • csandstecsandste Member Posts: 1,866
    the Michelin Energies were awful, however. Got a bit less than 35K on them. Uniroyal Tiger Paws were half as much as lasted quite a bit longer. Plus they were quieter with better traction. My Malibu Maxx has OEM Bridgestones that look like crap on paper. They're much better real world tires than the Energies, however.

    My oem Maxx tires are not H rated, even with a far more powerful car. I still think the H requirement on the Hyundai was because Energies were cheap to buy as an OEM tire.
  • pdaisy1821pdaisy1821 Member Posts: 1
    We love our 2002 GT - you wouldn't believe some of the stuff that we've carried in it over the past 3 years from college to our first apartments. Last weekend, we were bringing home some new bookcases and had to remove the interior piece of the trunk that covers the cargo. Well, we left it at the store, no one has turned it in, and now we need a new one. Does anyone know of an affordable place (other than a dealer) to buy one??? Thanks. :confuse:
  • backybacky Member Posts: 18,949
    Junkyards (e.g. cars totalled in a front-end collision) and eBay come to mind.
  • csandstecsandste Member Posts: 1,866
    http://www.car-part.com/

    Even if they don't track the individual part, you can find references to parted out cars near you and contact the yard directly.
  • gtovritgtovrit Member Posts: 53
    I haven't visited this board in quite a while, but I went to the dealer for my 40-something warranty check up, and they told me I needed new tires. I'm at 50,000 right now, and getting close to the crossbars. So far, three of you have reported changing brands, and all seem happy with their choices. Anyone else have suggestions? And Backy, what are you doing to wear those tires out so fast?
    For the record, in 50,000 miles on my 02 GT hatchback, I've replaced the door pillar trim tape, the rearview mirror (it buzzed), front axle seals, and just lately, the exhaust manifold and catalytic converter. This last was supposed to be a technical bulletin/recall item, but I never heard about it until I went in for the mid 40 check up. Probably because it is a very expensive repair for Hyundai to eat. They took care of all those under warranty, no problems, and I am still a very happy owner of this car. I'd buy another, this is the best auto value out there today.
  • 5port5port Member Posts: 395
    The exhaust manifold check I have heard about but have not received a notice in the mail yet. The catalytic converter recall/TSB is new to me and I cant find evidence of it anywhere. Can you please post the TSB/recall # (or where to find it). Thanks. I have an 01 GT.
  • backybacky Member Posts: 18,949
    I have no idea why the OEM Michelins on my '01 GLS lasted only 30k. I am a conservative driver and rotate the tires every 7000 miles or so. Part of it is that I live in the snow belt, so I had to replace the tires before this winter. If I lived down south, I probably could have gotten another 5k+ miles out of them easy. Also, almost all my miles are around town. Maybe with highway driving the tires last longer? I've noticed though that I am not the only person getting only around 30k on the Michelins.

    I could ask you, what are you doing to wear out the front axle seals/exhaust manifold/catalytic converter so fast?? ;)
  • jlflemmonsjlflemmons Member Posts: 2,242
    The converter mounts to the manifold. Interesting concept I have not seen before, but it does help with converter warm up and also acts as a muffler. I can see where a crack at the converter/manifold joint could damage the converter.

    I just rolled over 6K on the '05 GT. Still runs like a top, and the gas mileage has improved over the last couple of tanks. And with gas prices north of $2 here in central Texas, don't hear so many folks laughing about me driving a Hyundai. I just smile and wave as I see them filling up their SUVs at the pumps, whining about the 12MPG they get in town.
  • gtovritgtovrit Member Posts: 53
    5Port, the exhaust manifold was what they were checking, and as the writer down the line says, the manifold and converter are connected, so they have to replace both. The service writer said it would cost about $900 if it wasn't a warranty item. Also said it should last about another nine years.
    Backy, fair enough! I am actually a fairly mellow driver, no harsh starts or stops, I take it very easy with this car, it's my only transportation. I noticed a large oil spot in the driveway one morning, and checked the trans fluid, it was so low, they recommended towing it in, since I couldn't go to a local store for fluid. The exhaust manifold didn't cause any problems in performance or mileage, but the check engine light came on, my local mechanic couldn't diagnose it, so I went to the dealer. I never did receive any recall notice or TSB on it, though, the service writer told me there was one, but was probably so new they hadn't gotten them out yet. Right. Anyway, all fixed, runs great.
  • backybacky Member Posts: 18,949
    The TSB on the manifold was kind of strange. I got a letter from my dealer (not Hyundai) advising me of the TSB. I've never received any other letters re any other TSBs. They checked it and said it looked fine. That was a few months ago.
  • 5port5port Member Posts: 395
    gtovrit:

    Thanks for the tip on the manifold. Makes sense since the converter is mounted to the exhaust manilfold (Duh!). No check engine light here but i will make an app to have this stuff checked. I've got 28K on an 01 GT so mileage is low but my 5 years will be up in 06.
  • korros1vekorros1ve Member Posts: 3
    I just receintly had that replaced on my car. I took it in for an inspection 49k on my 02 GT. They had to replace the rear calipers, E brake cable, rear right wheel bearing, front right outer tie rode end, Exhuast Manifold (but it still passed emmissions with the cracked one, go figure). I as well did not know about the manifold. All I know is my car is alot quetier now then before.

    As far as tires...I purchased Firestone Indy 500 tires at 25k and they were the best thing I have ever done to my 02 GT. better handling better tracktion and way less road noise. Snow was never and issue after them.
  • jlflemmonsjlflemmons Member Posts: 2,242
    Wow! What happened to the calipers? Seeing the emergency cable replacement also makes me wonder if the cable stuck and overheated things?

    The tie rod end I could see from the pot-hole impact point of view. I love my GT (second elantra) but it has always bugged me that the joints in the suspension are sealed and cannot be lubed.

    Jim
  • korros1vekorros1ve Member Posts: 3
    Well Hyundai claims the aftermarket store put the rear brakes on wrong. I say e-brake frozeup and when then I took it back to the aftermarket store to complain they snapped the e-cable by trying to adjust and fix the problem.

    The aftermarket place did replace the calipers for free and paid hyundai dealer to replace the cable.
  • onmy5thhyundaionmy5thhyundai Member Posts: 2
    Was driving home and noticed a large Hyundai logo on the back of an Accord... Wait a minute, that's no Accord - I struggled to catch up - what the H*LL is it - fortunately, he hits a red light - sure enough, WOW!! the new Sonata!! - pretty slick - light goes green - I am left in the dust (V6). Hmm - the salesman told me they would not be out till the Fall (lying salesman scum). I am driving my brand new Black Obsidian Elantra GT 5 door 5-speed with the full option package. A pang of regret - should I have waited and got the new Sonata?

    Well, someday, if they come out with a Sonata 6 speed manual V6 GT perhaps. After owning 3 base 5-speed Sonata's in-a-row ('89,'95,'00) I am bored with it and I refuse to get an automatic. My GT is quicker than a base Sonata, gets better gas mileage, and has all the toys (CVVT engine, 4w disks, pwr sunroof, cruse, fog lamps, trip computer, ABS/TCS, leather, alloy wheels,100W 6 spkr CD, sport suspension, rear spoiler, keyless remote/alarm) and its just as comfortable as my 2000 Sonata (if not more).

    Best of all, after discount and rebates it came in at just over 12.9K (14.1K after sales tax, fees). A 2006 Sonata with those kinda toys would have been pushing 20K. GT is the best value.
  • backybacky Member Posts: 18,949
    I agree. If you don't need the room and "plushness" of the Sonata, I think the Elantra is one of the best values out there. I just wish I got to drive my (wife's) GT with the moonroof more often. :( I get to drive my '01 GLS. But it has a 5-speed at least. :)
  • mononeomononeo Member Posts: 89
    I'm going to buy the new Elantra when it comes out...I hate the Elantra's 5-speed gearbox, and I plan to get a manual, too.

    The Kia Spectra has the same gearbox as the Elantra, unless you get an SX or Spectra5, and then it has a really pleasant gearbox...So I do not know at this point what the shifter will be like, but if it is bad I have the intentions of installing a short-throw shifter.

    You guys have Hyundais, do you know if the warranty would be voided by such an installation? Have you had problems with doing things like this?
  • backybacky Member Posts: 18,949
    Maybe the stick shift on the new Elantra will be more to your liking.

    A manufacturer would need to prove that a short-throw shifter kit caused the problem in for the warranty to be voided. Oh, they could tell you "Sorry, you changed the car, the warranty is voided," but would it hold up in court?
  • compensatecompensate Member Posts: 212
    I haven't visited in some time . . .

    I have a 2001.5 GT 5-speed with 94,250 miles on it. Front brakes and rotors were replaced around 60,000 miles (front rotor quality seems fair-to-poor). Just replaced rear brakes a week ago. Odd wear, as the right rear pads still looked OK, but the inner pad on the left rear was worn to the wear indicator.

    I appear to have a very small oil seal leak around my tranny somewhere, as the bottom of the casing is covered in a thin layer of gear oil. Going to take it to the dealer - hope oil seals are covered under the 100,000 warranty. Anyone know about this coverage?

    Since about 45,000 miles, my engine sounds horrible at start up until it runs for about 60 seconds. Sounds like a clattering sound, maybe valve(s) or lifter(s) issue. Had taken it to dealer then who said it was normal and that I should use a heavier grade oil. That hasn't worked so I plan to have them actually inspect the lifters/valves this time. Has anyone else (with high mileage) had such a problem.

    The clock stopped working around 60,000 miles, although it displays the correct time every few weeks or so.

    The AM/FM CD unit works fine except that in warm weather, the CD player is VERY prone to skipping, causing a CD error and the CD to be ejected. Not a big deal, just a little annoying.

    Other than a paint peeling issue with the front bumper (that was likely a dealer cover-up job to hide some cosmetic damage so they could sell the car as "new'), it's been a pretty good car.

    It's not as good as our 1999 Protege (125,000 miles), but close!

    Any advice on the engine noise and oil seal leak would be greatly appreciated!

    Enjoy your Elantras!
  • 5port5port Member Posts: 395
    Brakes- That one pad maybe the pad that the emergency brake favors, thus wearing a little early. I have same year car (2001.5 GT, 5 spd, 28,800 mi.) I'm on the original brakes with no problems.

    Tranny- At 94K I would let the dealer check it out. Should be covered to 100K. They may ask for proof of tranny fluid change though.

    Cold idle- Yeah my 01.5 is noisy on start-up for about 60 seconds. Always has been. I'm using Castrol GTX 5W-30. Dealers always installed 10W-30. I'm using lighter oil because my car does a lot of short trips. Lighter oil will warm-up quicker.

    Clock- Yup, my clock became erratic at 6 months. Dealer replaced it and hasnt been a problem since. Service manager said he could reproduce the intermittent by reaching behind the clock and moving the PC board. Probably a bad solder joint.

    AM/FM CD- Mine is temp related but does the reverse. At very cold temps it skips (10 F). Above that its fine. Really like the sound. Better than the factory set-up in my last car (Civic Si).

    Paint- Found a chip of paint missing in the middle of roof in front of the sunroof. Actually it blistered off. About 1/8th inch in size. I used touch-up paint and fingers crossed. I try to keep a layer of wax always on the car. Its parked under a tree always under a car cover.

    I'd buy my GT again in a heartbeat. With mileage as low as mine I'm not looking too hard.
  • compensatecompensate Member Posts: 212
    That's pretty interesting how similar our cars' issues are, but your mileage is VERY low compared to mine (but my daily commute to work is 80 miles round trip).

    Something different is that you said your car has always sounded rough until 60 seconds after start-up. Mine didn't start sounding rough until around 40,000 miles, which leads me to believe there is a lifter/valve problem that cropped up around 40,000 miles. I'll report back later on the results of my dealer visit.

    I change my gear oil on manuals every 50,000 miles and never overfill, which I suspect the dealership might question whether or not I overfilled and caused an oil seal problem myself. The several Hyundai dealers in my area are not very trustworthy in general.

    I still have not changed the timing belt, after hearing that in California (which has better consumer protection laws) the same car has a 100,000 mile timing belt service interval. I plan to have that changed soon, but not at a Hyundai dealership - prices are WAY too high for labor. I'd do it myself, but timing belt replacement scares me (drive axle - no problem!) - heard too many stories about improper installation and subsequent engine destruction . . .

    Thanks for the info! Anyone else?
  • lngtonge18lngtonge18 Member Posts: 2,228
    Internal engine and tranny seals are definitely covered under the 100k warranty. The clattering sound from the engine is most likely a hydraulic lifter that looses oil pressure when allowed to sit and takes a bit to pump back up to the right pressure. In all honesty, I wouldn't mess with it since the noise stops after 60 seconds and you are risking a further problem caused by the dealer. Mazdas and older Nissans were known for this problem. It doesn't cause any adverse problems to the engine. You just hear that annoying noise for a minute or so. Now, if it did it all the time or for much longer then a few minutes, I would definitely get it fixed.
  • compensatecompensate Member Posts: 212
    I see your point, but worry that a long-term lifter problem will sooner or later lead to other damage (such as valve damage).

    By the way, I've owned a few Mazdas (two Proteges and one 626) and never experienced this type of noise. We currently have a 1999 Protege ES (5-speed) with 125,000 miles on it. The engine is much quieter than my Elantra's even when the Elantra has passed the 60 second warm-up period. The Protege has been nearly flawless - clutch and tranny still feel excellent. I suppose I expect the same from my Hyundai.

    Thanks for the advice!!!
  • compensatecompensate Member Posts: 212
    I just spoke to a local dealer who said that an oil seal LEAK would NOT be covered under the 100,000-mile powertrain warranty. He said that the powertrain warranty only covered internal parts and transmission oil seals are not considered internal parts. Isn't that special?

    Then the service rep asked if I had changed the gear oil and I said I had changed it at 50,000 miles (as I always do with manuals). He said that gear oil should be changed every 30,000 miles. I told him I had always owned manuals and changed the gear oil every 50,000 miles, even a mechanic friend of mine said that was all that was needed.

    So, I suppose I will NOT be taking my car for the oil seal problem, but I think I'm still going to have them check out my lifters/valves.

    I'm becoming less of a fan of the Hyundai warranty! Lots of exclusions.
  • lngtonge18lngtonge18 Member Posts: 2,228
    Believe me, the Miata 1.6 and 1.8 engines before 99 as well as the 929 and MPV 3.0 V6 suffered from bad lifter designs. Mazda released all sorts of TSBs on this problem. Only under severe cases did they suggest to replace the lifters. The common suggestion was to use different oil weights and change the oil more often. I owned a 92 Miata with the noisy lifters and I sold it at 144k with no adverse engine problems. One of the lifters was pretty loose too and would tap loud for several minutes. I also used to own a 91 Nissan Stanza with noisy lifters. It knocked pretty darn loud sometimes. The problem was so common that Nissan switched to solid lifters on later cars. The engine did die on that car at 140k, but that's because the timing chain broke, not because of the lifters. Really, noisy lifters don't harm your valves. It's just a noise nuisance. I mean, if you can get it fixed under warranty, more power to you. But don't get yourself all worked up if they just tell you to use heavier oil. I would become more concerned if the noise never stops.

    As for what the dealer said regarding the manual tranny fluid, he is correct. If the book says to change it at 30k and you waited till 50k, that would be their way to weasle out of the warranty. It doesn't matter that the fluid can easily handle 50k. It's the fact that the manual states it should be changed at 30k. Listen to the manual when warranties are involved, not yourself or other mechanics. That way you won't be disappointed or upset when the warranty doesn't do something you think it should. Any manufacturer would use the same reasoning behind denying a warranty claim so it's not just Hyundai. As for the leaky seal, I gues that does make sense. I was thinking of seals internal to the tranny, not the seal where the tranny mates to the engine. If that is the seal that is bad, that would be considered an external seal and not covered under the 100k warranty. Now, if the rear main oil seal or internal CV axle seal was the cause of the problem, then the warranty would apply.
  • jveneziajvenezia Member Posts: 85
    I did a lot of research on tires using tirerack.com. The OEM Michelins were given a poor rating. I figured that if I were going to spend good money on a new car (05 GLS 5-door), I should make sure that I spend a little more for decent tires. So when I received the car, I went ahead and ordered a set of BF Goodrich Traction TA-H tires and had them installed at about 400 miles on the car. What a difference they made. The day I had them put on, we ran into a snow storm while going out for dinner and we drove 45 minutes in slushy, sleety conditions without a single problem. I'm sure the Michelins would have been pretty scary. I'm very happy with the Goodrich tires, although they're noisier and stiffer than the Michelins. They have a very aggressive tread, like a winter tire tread, and can go through any kind of weather. I've used them in the snow, rain, and mud, and really like them. Tire Rack is a great place to get your tires, since the pricing is very reasonable and they deliver the tires to your door for about $35 per set for the Elantra's tire size. You just have to go to an installer to have them mounted and balanced. That cost me another $44. But with the shipping and mounting, the tires I bought were still less expensive than those I could have bought at any tire place around where I live, plus I had the advantage of reading tech specs, owner reviews, and ratings, as well as a huge selection. For me, buying my tires online is the only way to go.
  • compensatecompensate Member Posts: 212
    I appreciated the info on the Mazda/Nissan lifter problems.

    I think I'll still have them look at mine just in case.

    I think it is ridiculous for Hyundai to recommend manaul tranny gear oil change every 30K. I think it is merely another ploy to lure people (who don't do their own maint) for more frequent visits (cash register goes, "cha-ching!").

    This is similar to their 60K timing belt service interval. In California, the service interval is 100K (which is typical with most timing belts these days) because CA has stricter consumer protection laws. I'm sure they'll ask about my timing belt being way past it's scheduled service date and I'll tell them to look at the CA books!
  • lngtonge18lngtonge18 Member Posts: 2,228
    LOL. I agree about the crazy difference in timing belt changes between California and other states. I own a Mitsubishi that has the same thing. I'm confident the belt on my Lancer could easily go 100k. I just don't know if I'm willing to risk it.

    As for the manual tranny fluid, it is sort of often to change the fluid but it also uses regular engine oil. I'm not sure if Honda is still like this, but my parent's former 92 Accord and my dad's current 95 Integra require the same 30k oil changes. My 84 VW GTI, however, stated the tranny fluid was guaranteed for the lifetime of the car and never needed changing. It uses a much heavier gear oil though.
  • SylviaSylvia Member Posts: 1,636
    The posts about pricing, did you get a good deal, etc. have been moved to the discussion Hyundai Elantra: Prices Paid & Buying Experiences where people talk about what they are paying, where, etc.

    Thanks!
  • lselwaylselway Member Posts: 3
    I currently have a 2003 Ford Explorer and my parents want to sell it and get me a car. I *hate* SUVs so I'm pretty excited about this. I've seen a few of the 5-door elantra's and they look really nice. I could have swore I saw a red one with black leather seats. Am I just nuts? Anyways, just wanted to post, as I just came across this board.
  • backybacky Member Posts: 18,949
    You obviously have great taste in cars. :) The Elantra GT 5-door used to come with black (actually dark grey) leather seats, but since '04 they have had a lighter grey leather with perforated inserts, which IMO is an improvement as it makes the interior less tomb-like. The dash is black, however. The GLS 5-door has a sharp sport cloth interior, which I like too. Your parents must be pretty nice to buy you a new car.
  • compensatecompensate Member Posts: 212
    Does the manual tranny in the 2001 GT use engine oil? When I changed mine at 50K I asked the guy in the auto store about the type of fluid and he said my car used 80W gear oil according to his info. So, I used fully synthetic 80W gear oil at my 50K fluid change.

    Think this will cause any problems? This is bizzare.
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