New Ford F-350 Trucks
What's the latest "scoop" on the newly redesigned
Ford F-350s to be rolled out soon? Apparently,
there are no product brochures or pricing info yet.
Anybody heard anything about potential release
date?
Ford F-350s to be rolled out soon? Apparently,
there are no product brochures or pricing info yet.
Anybody heard anything about potential release
date?
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check out this page:
http://www.truckworld.com/Truck-Tests/99-F-Series/f-series-2.html
I think that you will be happy..
Len
my salesman called me on Dec.24 and said that they
would have all the prices and be able to order the
new trucks on Jan. 6.
they should have the brochures then too..
Rich
Also latest Motor Trend has a picture of a 99 F250 Super Duty CrewCab from the Vegas SEMA show.
http://www.abol.com/users/jlester/photos3.htm
This page is dedicated to powerstrokes.
has a complete price list by model. Good site!
Looks like they changed suspension to me using more torsion bars and less "beef" in front leaves of springs. Was told by salesman that all new 250's and 350's will be heavy duty, i.e., at least 8,800 lb gvw. The two I looked at were 4wd and ride clearance looked lower to me than my '88. I need to find out about V-10 engine performance and maintenance. Been out for about year in vans etc, but have not been able to find anyone who has enough miles to tell me how they really run. They should get better mileage than the 460, I get 12.5 with 120,000 miles, but not much better and the torque ought to outperform the powerstrokes. But seeing is believing.
It's my understanding that Ford will continue to make the light duty F-250 trucks in the same body style as the F-150s, but it looks like the models are limited. For example, I don't think they have a 1998 light duty F-250 4x4 extended cab in a long bed. The new Superduty line appears to have just about every possible model available, including the dual rear wheel in 4wd.
We should start seeing some of the new Superduties on the road shortly. They are suppose to be in showrooms in the beginning of March and they have been taking orders since January. I think I read that Ford received 40,000 or 50,000 orders for the new Superduty trucks.
NOW has anyone pulled with one yet please let me
know how it was Thanks.
5.4L V-8 - 235 HP, 335 Torque
6.8L V-10 - 275 HP, 410 Torque
7.3L Turbo dsl - 235 HP, 500 Torque
The diesel has more torque, less horsepower.
Can anyone tell me what would be better, 4.10 or
3.73 rear end. I am going to order a new F350 Power Stroke 4X4 Dually and can't decide what axle ratio I need. I tow a 34 ft fifth wheel a lot during the summer. I currently have a '93 F250 4X4 with 460 and 4.10 axle ratio. I have enough power to cruise on the freeway at 60 mph but the mileage is down to about 8 mph. I know it will be better with the Power Stroke but unsure of the gearing.
What price are you getting on the new truck? Prices seem to range between $1,100-$1,300 over dealer invoice.
I am going to get it at 4% over the invoice. I saw the invoice for one just like it but the wrong color and wrong interior and no CD player.
I'll be ordering an F-350 in a week or two. I'm trying to cheat right now. I have a friend who has a friend who owns several dealerships out-of-state. We sent him an e-mail yesterday to see if he was in a position to quote a better price and drop ship it here. It's a long shot, but it's worth a try. Otherwise, I will order it locally. My hold-up has been my trade-in, which I have now decided to sell myself.
If you're ordering a Lariat, I've heard the leather interiors won't be available until early April.
My dad bought a 97 F-350 Powerstroke dually, manual tranny last year. He pulls a 35 foot fifth wheeler. I believe he has the 4.10 rear end. I will try to give him a call tomorrow and see what kind of gas mileage he gets and what kind of cruising speeds he manages.
I await your response. Thank you for looking into it for me.
In case you didn't see the other thread, I ordered my F-350 supercab 4X4 for $500 over invoice and had several dealers willing to do it. I'm in the Bay area - CA.
I just spoke with my dad. He strongly recommended the 4.10 ratio if you are going to be towing a big fifth wheeler regularly. He said the 3.73 is the best all around if you are planning to tow boats or snowmachines, but the 4.10 will serve you better for the bigger loads. He said you will get better gas mileage with the 3.73 when you're not towing, but you will get better gas mileage with the 4.10 when you are towing. He hasn't really checked the gas mileage when not towing, but figures he gets 16-18. He said he gets 10-12 when towing the 35 foot fifth wheeler, with the average being closer to 10. He said that a lot of the figures you hear about mpg are based on optimal driving conditions. His figures are based on an average of the trips he took last year, including mountain driving and some some strong head winds at times. His trip last year started in Indiana. He drove to Cleveland OH, then to Myrtle Beach SC, on to Orlando FL, then to Las Vegas NV, up to San Francisco CA, then Seattle and finally up to Anchorage Alaska where he lives. He stayed up there for a couple of months before driving back to Seattle and then over to Ohio where the truck and trailer are parked for the winter. He says he can cruise conmfortably at 65-70 with the trailer in tow, but rarely exceeds 60mph by choice. It sounds like it depends on your needs. If you only plan to tow the fifth wheeler on a couple of trips each year, so the primary use for your truck will not be towing, the 3.73 will be more than adequate, and maybe even preferable since the mileage will be better when not towing and the engine won't work as hard. On the other hand, if your primary function will be to tow the fifth wheeler, you'll want to go with the 4.10. My dad pretty much only uses his truck for towing. That's why he parked it in Ohio this winter. He bought a little used Bronco II 4x4 a few years ago that he uses to get around in Alaska in the winter. The 4.10 was a given for him, considering his use. Most of us don't have the luxury of having an extra vehicle exclusively for towing, so the 3.73 ratio may be what you need. I'd get some more feedback from some of the other guys in this chat area. "mharde2" just bought a new Ram 2500, and I think he got the 3.55 or something similar. He hauls a big fifth wheeler. You might check out some of his posts.
jdb,
Thanks for the info. Now that I've decided to sell my truck rather than trade it in, I'm in a better position to shop the best price on the new truck. I may just run down the yellow pages and ask them to quote me their best price over invoice. The only reason I haven't ordered yet is that I found a better rate for my financing through my credit union at work. It will take another week or two to become an official member and get the loan lined up.
Thank you and I thank your dad also. I appreciate all of you info findings, I think that I will end up getting the 4.10's just for a safe measure. It still has to better than my F-250 4X4.
Thanks again. It is nice to beable to get great information before you make a big purchase.
I would suggest the 3.73:1 AND adding an auxillary gear set to replace the tail shaft of the Ford transmission. Typically the aux is either a step up or step down. You woudl then have the best of both worlds. Efficient freeway driving and good trailer towing. I mentioned in another thread that a company called US Gear makes such a device. Today I guess that they are two grand and about half that to install. I've ordered my F-250 HD with a diesel and 3.73:1 positraciton. The plan is to eventually pull a 5th wheel. Then I'll add the aux tranny.
Rich
I just found this link.
http://www.drivetrain.com/overdrive.html
It looks like the cost is about $2300 plus $400 to install. However, they didn't mention the power take off on the new HD transmission. So install may be higher. These prices are for a '97 also.
Rich
What made you opt for the F-250 over the F-350? About a month ago, I asked the question in another topic area, and the feedback I got was that if the extra $1,000 wasn't a problem, that I should go with the F-350.
Now for a dumb question. What color did you order? Believe it or not, that has been the hardest part of my decision. I never really gave it much thought. I've pretty much decided on a two tone with black as the main color and a silver border on the bottom. The down side of a black truck is that it will be tough to keep clean and it will show nicks more, but I looked at several older model trucks and the blacks and whites seem to look good after several years. I never thought I would own a black truck.
Thanks for the suggestion. I have seen the US Gear before but quite frankly have forgoten about it. I will try to get ahold of them and see if they have it for the new trans.
thanks again.
I'll answer the easy one first:
Oxford white with a silver lower. Several reasons, better resale later (to a contractor who wants to paint a sign on the door); a white roof is cooler that a darker color; white is about the easiest color to keep clean; finally I couldn't get any other color combo in white. I really agonized over the sunset gold color but didn't like the two tone combos. (See the "From One Extreme ...." brochure from Ford for how good it looks in a real sunset!)
I actually considered the 350. However after considering:
Almost always running unloaded;
Almost always on the LA freeways;
Both 350 & 250 can tow up to 13,800 5th wheel;
(That's a big 5th wheel.)
I want as close to lux-o-boat ride as possible.
I felt that the 250 would ride smoother. I thought about 4x4; but I'm almost never going off road, here mileage and ride comfort win out. Finally the 'chop' on the LA freeways is tough. They make a saw cut in the concrete road bed and this creates a chop-chop-chop-chop ride. You really have to play with the speed to get a comfortable ride. There was no real difference between my '86 F-250 and '92 F-250 in the ride. Everyone that I've spoken to that has driven the new '99 says it rides better than the '97 F-150. The '97 was supposed to be a 'go cart to lincoln' difference over the older body style. If I get pick up to Ranchero ride improvement I'll be delighted!
There is one other thing about color. Any vehicle with a white roof can be made to appear as a government or official vehicle when viewed from the eye in the sky. Send me an e-mail if you want details.
Rich
I'm sorry I couldn't find the 'real' US Gear web page. If you find it, please drop me an e-mail.
Thanks,
Rich
Thanks for the info. I just spent the past 4 1/2 years in Southern CA. My job transferred me from Anchorage Alaska to our office in Chatsworth. I lived in Simi until the quake. Our building was damaged, so I was transferred to Irvine in Orange County. OC was pretty nice. I know what you mean about the roads, but I was very comfortable with the ride of my 92 F-250 4x4. I never used the 4x4 in Southern CA, but used it much of the winter in Alaska and on the dirt/mud roads to the salmon fishing spots. I will be getting 4x4 on the new truck, even though I won't use it much here in Dallas. I still plan on getting back to snow country somewhere. I like the four seasons.
I've been hearing about a proposed CA law that would make all trucks with gears lower than 3.08 fail the emissions. Any truth?
How much extra are you having to pay for the weight of the truck? When I first registered mine in CA in 1993, I didn't know I had to get it weighed. I had a fiberglass shell on and one of my gas tanks was full. I came in at 5,300 pounds, so they added $140 to my annual fee.
It will be interesting to see how smooth the ride is on the new trucks. I've always felt my truck has run smooth, especially on cruise control. The speed limit through Arizona and New Mexico is 75, so I was setting the cruise control just under 80 and it ran smooth. I've got the 3.55 ratio. I've taken several long trips with the truck. When I was in CA, I made one round trip to Seattle and a second trip to Seattle and over to Missoula MT. I got on I-15 in Montana, and took it through Salt Lake, Las Vegas and right into Orange County. I also made a roundtrip from CA to Ft. Huachuca southwest of Tuscon AZ to visit my brother. In 1993, I drove from Anchorage to Los Angeles and, of course, I drove from CA to TX in November. I've got no complaints about the ride of the truck, but I'm still looking forward to the new truck.
I see why your truck rides smoother! It is the shell. It adds just enough weight to make the springs do their jobs.
My weight fee is about $140 and with both tanks full, some luggage, test equipment and myself the truck weighs 6670.
A friend at work has a Dodge super cab (1/2 Ton) with a shell and carpet kit. It rides very smooth and totally unlike any other Dodge I ever been in. Again it must be the weight.
Enjoy Dallas! I'd much rather be there than here!
Rich
I imagine anything I might lose in ride comfort on long highway trips when moving up to the F-350 will be gained with the bigger engine. So far, the reviewers in the magazines say the V-10 is very smooth. I found articles on the new truck in the latest editions of Truck Trend magazine and Off Road magazine. Those are in addition to the ones from TruckWorld and Fourwheeler, which I read on the web.
Has anyone heard much about the new 99 F350's. I'm a bit worried about buying another one. We pull a 35' fifth wheel.
Any suggestions.
Thanks,
Anne & Bob
It appears that Ford has made a lot of changes for 1999. They are also using a new transmission. The site listed below is the best site I have found for information on the new trucks. It used to be called Jason's Powerstroke, but recently changed it's name to the Ford Diesel Website. It appears to have a lot of technical info on the diesel. It also has links to other sites that have articles on the trucks and it has pricing info. The site can be found at:
www.abol.com/users/jlester/info.htm
I did the same thing. It all depends upon what part of the week you placed the order. I've been told that Ford "Picks up" the orders once a week. It's on Thursday night to Friday morning. On the west coast it is at 9 PM Thursday. (Give or take a few minutes.) It takes a week to process and get a response back. So if the timing is right it could take 3 weeks. Then figgure 3 to 6 weeks from that point to delivery. Again it depends upon the assembly planning and scheduling.
I'm going by ordering mine towards the end of February, either a Friday or Saturday and deliver is scheduled for April 6, at the dealer.
Rich
Check out this site, it just up in Oklahoma...
www.isbellford.com
says he will sell you a Ford for $99 under invoice!!!
I tried to trade here in Dallas, but these arrogant sons of bitches do not want to deal at all!! To hell with 'em! There are still a lot of dealers out there that realize you are the customer and actually want your business.
Coyote
[email protected]
That's great!! I ordered my F-350 supercab 4X4 out here in CA. for the $500 over invoice and it also included the gas and advertising plus use tax, weight tax and registration tax.
My order went in 3/6, I'll let you know when the rig shows up! I'll then be driving up to Oregon to pick up the camper I bought to put on it.
I made the I-5 run from southern CA to Washington numerous times. It will be a good run for the new truck. It's pretty much cruise control until you get around Redding and Mt. Shasta. Then you will get to do some winding and climbing through the mountains in Northern CA and Southern Oregon. I always got better mileage heading south. I'm not sure if it was headwinds or more climbing. You won't be able to tell since you will have a camper on the way back. Not really a fair comparison. What kind of camper did you get?
I got a 10 1/2 ft. Bigfoot 2500!
I must have got lucky last week when I called Isbell and ordered my truck. I got through on the 800 number the first time. I spoke with a guy named Danny Ware. He took my order in about 10 minutes and then faxed me the invoice for confirmation of the specs and pricing about 10 minutes later. I reviewed the specs over the weekend and then faxed the confirmation back on Tuesday. Danny called me back at the office before I even had a chance to get back to my desk from the fax machine. I'm very satisfied. Is it June yet?
I asked a ford dealer about the head rests in the back seat and they said NO they are not available. Looked at 4X4 f350, wow!..just dont like the steering wheel and the big "mouth" grill. Ford's really tempting this chevy fan.