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Cadillac CTS/CTS-V



  • willngaylewillngayle Posts: 19
    I saw a post a few pages back regarding GMS for Telcom employees. Can someone elaborate some more on this. What is required to qualify? Thanks, Bill
  • oldsman01oldsman01 Posts: 1,203
    If I can keep my black beauty clean for a day, I'm doing good. I agree about people pulling out in front of you, but I think this is more just people being careless. As alot of newer cars do, my Intrigue has DRLs and they are the amber parking lamps rather than the typical headlamps(more visible IMO) and people still pull out in front of me. I just lay on the horn and give them a mean look. Speaking of horns, does the CTS have a decent sounding horn?

    As for the ride, after I test drove a CTS my Intrigue felt like a golf cart it took bumps and asphalt patches so harshly.

    sevenfeet0, congratulations to you and your wife. I'll guess you guys will be bringing him home Cadillac style:)
  • oldsman01oldsman01 Posts: 1,203
    I posted about my company(which is a telecom) being eligible for GMS pricing. Being a telecom doesn't really have anything to do with getting GMS pricing other than we do alot of business with GM in buying vans, trucks, and SUVs for our engineers, field techs, and sales people. I don't work in corporate, by my guess is this is something that was worked out between GM and corporate as a benefit to our employees due to us doing so much business with them. GMS pricing is typically for companies who are suppliers for them.
  • sevenfeet0sevenfeet0 Posts: 486
    I was brought home by my parents in their '63 Buick Riviera. Now that was a cool car!
  • bingomanbingoman Posts: 373
    Does your company perhaps supply telcom services or equipment to GM offices?
  • ctsjerryctsjerry Posts: 94
    Hi all-
    When I picked up a catalog on the CTS in mid 2002, the darkest interior was Dark Pewter. Ebony was not an option. I had not seen an ALL EBONY interior until last week, and I drop by the Dealer frequently to checkout the current stable of Caddies.

    The Salesman TOLD me they had 20 in the back lot, still needing prep. I counted at least 12 in the Showroom and front lot. When I bought mine, they were rare. I think there were only 6-8 in stock and not many Luxury Sport models like mine. But I LOVE my car as she is. All Ebony would be great, but not enough to prompt a trade-in.

    The number of other Caddies on the lot is not as impressive as the CTSs. Escalades are VERY popular so they are prominent. I wanted you guys to hear a comment made by one of the Salesman: He said "the CTS is saving us. CTSs are our number one seller, with Escalades trailing behind" I have noticed there are not too many NEW STSs or Devilles around on the streets. I'm now seeing at least one CTS a day, which is a good sign. Once again, this is in the Los Angeles/South Bay area. -Jer:>)
  • ctsjerryctsjerry Posts: 94
    As I've posted here and at, we are having a gathering of CTS owners and potential owners this coming Saturday, June 21st. Just for fun. Time: 11:00 till ?. Location: Del Taco/Pep Boys parking lot, SW corner of Manchester & La Tijera in Westchester, CA (Suburb of Los Angeles). 2 minutes north of L.A. Airport (LAX). From 405 Freeway, take Manchester Blvd WEST about 2 miles. Turn SOUTH (left) on La Tijera, and make an immediate right into the lot. It's adjacent to a Firestone Store on the corner.

    We'll have CTS brochures to pass out. We'll talk CTS and compare notes on our cars. Lunch at Del Taco.

    Our Flyers are available at Lou Ehlers Cadillac on Wilshire Blvd and Ronald Moran Cadillac in Torrance.

    If this is a success, Lou Ehlers Cadillac says the next event they will bring out new Cadillacs for people to inspect & test drive. Wow!

    If interested, email me at
  • cu95cu95 Posts: 96
    I hit a very nasty pothole doing about 55mph on Saturday. I had someone following me to my house and was looking in my rearview mirror a lot and never saw the pothole until too late. For the severity of the pothole, I was very pleased with how the the car responded; it sounded violent but the car didn't react violently or lose its course. I passed two cars almost immediately that were in the breakdown lane, and at least one of them had a flat --I wouldn't be surprised if they were victims to the same pothole. Got home and found that I had lost one of the disks that covers the lug nuts on the wheels (base model 16"s). For those interested, that part goes for $16 (I just ordered it from my dealer).
  • b4zb4z Posts: 3,372
    Check your alignmnet.
  • sevenfeet0sevenfeet0 Posts: 486
    Yeah, I'd check the alignment and make sure that nothing else shook loose. Potholes like that can easily bend suspension bits. You don't want to mess around with something like that. If your dealer is like mine, they won't charge you for the peace of mind if they don't find anything wrong. I'd still ask them to align and balance car though.
  • tomcat630tomcat630 Posts: 854
    Good to see the CTS selling in La La Land, too.

    I'd like to hear from those who predicted it would flop, simply because it was not an imported car.
  • b4zb4z Posts: 3,372
    Probably the most unbiased review I have read. Thanks.
  • jemillerjemiller Posts: 183
    That's nasty. Check the wheel, even bet it's at least somewhat bent now.
  • wwhite2wwhite2 Posts: 535
    The linked 3.6 engine article stated that the 0-60 for the 3.6 engine will be 6.7 thats 2 tenths quicker than the now available 3.2 engine with the 5 spd manual .....interesting

      I had few choices for wheels on my 95 Eldorado ETC seems Cadillac uses its own bolt circle specs
  • rob35ctsrob35cts Posts: 53
    I got my clock fixed today. They put a new instrament cluster in. It was very easy. I could have done it myself. The cluster cost $700. I was in and out in 35 min. As you guys know most of the time was talking. He only had two bolts to remove.
  • mannytrannymannytranny Posts: 175
    Great review - thanks!
    I also thought that it was quite fair.
  • fjk57702fjk57702 Posts: 539
    The reviewer thinks the Opel V6 is some kind of northstar engine???
  • ctsjerryctsjerry Posts: 94
    Nice review article on the 2003 CTS. I do agree that the CTS 3.2L engine is certainly not a Northstar, but neither is it "just an Opel V6". It's a totally new beefier design. Yes, same "V" angle as the old Catera engine, but other than that, it's all new. And a real performer (and this is coming from a big time V8 fan!)

    One comment: The reviewer complains about the horn honking when the alarm is set or turned off. I hate that too in other cars, but that's a programable feature you can opt to turn off in a CTS. Very clever those Delco engineers! It's in the least read book in the world: THE OWNER'S MANUAL. But for the CTS, the Owner's Manual is an absolute MUST READ. There is far too much stuff to learn about all the new computerized goodies NOT to read the Manual. You'll find that you'll learn something new EVERY time you read it. -Jerry:>)
  • rstephrsteph Posts: 109
    I had a 2000 Impala LS prior to the CTS. Not sure I totally agree with ya on all of your comparisons though. I currently have a 2002 Impala as a work car so still get to drive both opinions:

    "CTS has a firmer suspension but rides better than the Impala !!!" (I agree on the firmer suspension but I think the Impala rides better..softer anyway (I said "rides better", not "handles better"). But then, that's to be expected..Impala is a family sedan.)

    CTS is quieter, rigid body structure, heavier steering(maybe artificially so). (For the most part..yes...but while CTS is quieter road noise wise, engine on the Impala is much quieter.)

    "CTS is the bomb, Impala is the firecracker." (Ok, but the Impala (LS anyway) is pretty snappy for what it is.)

    I don't guess I could have done any better for 21K 2 years ago. (No disagreement.)

    Overall I don't recommend anybody test drive a CTS then get in a Impala. Quite a letdown. (This is totally objective and depends entirely on what it is you're looking for in a car. I remember when I first got my Impala, you were hardpressed to see them around. Now they're getting to be like the VW bugs of old...they're all over the place. I'm not saying the Impala is better than the CTS. CTS is certainly superior. But, there is that $10k price difference which, for probably a majority of people, can be a big deciding factor. I am a fan of both cars though. The Imp is holding it's own very nicely in it's "niche". Had I not found the CTS I was after, I'd be in a 2003 Impala LS today.
  • fjk57702fjk57702 Posts: 539
    Opel is using the 3.2 V6 too. This is not an exclusive CTS engine. The CTS gets some additional intake manifold tuning that gives it a couple of extra horsepower.
  • ctsjerryctsjerry Posts: 94
    Hi fjk57702- That's intersting news. My point is to folks who think that the CTS engine is just a mildly reworked Catera engine. It isn't. Cadillac did a lot of work to make it something special. The new 3.6L will be a very nice upgrade, but the 3.2L ain't bad! I was pleasantly surprised. -Jer:>)
  • fjk57702fjk57702 Posts: 539
    Actually, Opel did the work. The 3.2 was out before the Catera was out of production. As near as I can tell, Cadillac bolted the intake manifold they used on the old Catera engine onto the new engine. Now I realize the the larger engine probably needed some additional tuning, but the new intake looks exactly like the old one.
  • ctsjerryctsjerry Posts: 94
    Yep, it can do that. For pictures and instructions see: Click on WEB PAGE NAVIGATION. Pretty cool! -Jer:>)
  • ctsjerryctsjerry Posts: 94
    From the Motor Trend CTS Review & Drive Comparison article: "The CTS' 3.2L/220-hp DOHC V-6 is an enlarged and upgraded version of the '02 Catera's 3.0L/200-hp engine. However, because it's undergone many changes (newly reinforced cast-iron block with new connecting rods and a forged-steel crankshaft), one could say it, too, is new. Due to the fact that this narrow GM V-6 is used in both transverse and longitudinal applications, it has an unusual 54° bank angle that's not as smooth or smooth-sounding as either the Infiniti's oversquare 60° V-6 or the ultra-placid I-6 of the BMW. The combustion chambers in the CTS V-6's aluminum cylinder heads have been improved, as well as the intake and exhaust manifolds, and the engine now achieves an EPA Low Emissions Vehicle (LEV) rating. Combined with improved lubrication, better cooling, higher fuel pressure, and throttle-by-wire technology, horsepower and torque gains are dramatic despite not utilizing variable timing."

    Ref: - - tml
  • jemillerjemiller Posts: 183
    It is an Opel V6, and is also used in the Omega in 3.2L form.

    The only changes are those which you'd expect would be needed to take it from 3.0L to 3.2L.
  • jemillerjemiller Posts: 183
    Hmm. I'd never consider the CTS and Impala to be remotely comparable.

    As for driving a 2003 Impala vs the CTS - there's a long, long list of vehicles out there superior to the Impala that undercut the CTS on price, everything from Accords to Camrys etc. Even the Altima is a far nicer mechanical package, though the interior's about as rude as they come.
  • bigdaddycoatsbigdaddycoats Posts: 1,058
    Drove through the lot of the local dealer today and saw they just got around 10 04s in stock. No stickers on them yet. Looks like a few base models (auto), some with the 1SB and maybe two with the sprt pkg also. Wide range of colors but no red. I think in a day or two I'll call and go drive one. The new 3.6 should be pretty sweet. The new 17" wheels look great. I'll let ya know how the test drive goes.
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