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navigator3740 : the point of the commercial is to point out that if the occupants of the car cannot respond after an accident. because they are injured or unconscious the OnStar operator will notify the local 911 authorities to respond to the accident., and will give 911 your exact location from the in car GPS. Having read of many one car accidents in which the car goes off the road and is hidden from traffic, the idea of OnStar being immediately notified and able to pinpoint your location is very reassuring.
Its free for the first year anyway.
NEVER have time to drive the car or play with
onstar. The BOSS is too greedy with HER car !
LOL.............geo
BTW: She does allow me to wash it or fill it with
gas tho! Otherwise I have to drive my Cowboy Cadillac,
GTO or Triumph........Just wait till i get my CTS-V8.
The tables will be turned !
The only weird thing recently that's happened to me concerning fit and finish is the headliner on the left side C-pillar that covers the curtain air bag has come loose from it's mounting that borders the window. The dealership has ordered a replacement, rather than trying to rehang it.
Still, this is the nicest car I've ever owned. So I "rewarded" the car's service by spending all day today stripping its wax and putting on a fresh coat (Meguire's 3 step process ending with their Gold Class Liquid Wax). There's nothing like a black CTS that turns heads by how bright it is. :-)
http://www.media.gm.com/news/releases/030414_NYautoshow_overview.- html
Now I definitely have to get myself over to the NY show after work one day.
0 to 60 in less than 5 seconds. It beats my old Vette.
http://popularmechanics.com/automotive/new_cars_trucks/2003/4/200- 3_ny_auto_show_1/
Rich
I will always keep the minimum Onstar system. The built in "Lojack" & other security featrures are well worth the money. I also like the automatic air bag deployment call. Here in L.A. a year or so ago, a fellow crashed his Japanese mini-pickup at 5 am off the side of a major Freeway. He was stuck in some trees & bushes, down the embankment. They didn't find him for three days. He lost his hand from the injuries (he was pinned in the car). No Onstar. So even in a busy place like L.A., it could certainly be a life saver.
0-60 impressive
styling not impressive
curb wieght not impressive
Think about it...
3.73 rearend!
8.5" wide wheels w 245 tires!
carconnection article and new pic!
http://www.thecarconnection.com/index.asp?article=5941
"...while in back, the oversized license plate insert is now body color-coded, a much-needed change, several insiders concede."
I suspect that all 2004 CTS's will have that. The insert is one of the reasons I prefer the black paint on the 2003's; the insert blends in much better and doesn't seem as out of place.
- steering bolt checked per recall
- sync analog and digital clock
- tighten down spare tire (and check pressure while at it) and add dampening material
- activate Onstar, including free 30 minutes
The recall was widely publicized, so I'm sure their service department will know what to do, but for the clock syncing and the spare tire dampening, is there anything official or instructional that I could point to (or better yet print out and bring) in case they are clueless?
It, of course, will never be as quick as the Z06 purely because of weight, but then that's not its market; its bang-for-buck ratio should be better than most of its competition.
The wheels and the body-color license-plate hole helps the shape. IMO it'll never qualify as attractive until they get the beltline down.
Not sure if I like the brushed-metal-look surfaces on the steering wheel - looks good, but if they're metal they're going to get bloody hot in the sun, and if they're plastic they're going to wear and look nasty from hand contact over time.
The overall effect is attractive I guess, but it doesn't seem to appear to be worthy of a 10 grand price increase.
400hp is nice though.
CTS-V will be shown tomorrow.
I think I posted this before, but...the engine is probably little or no more expensive than the V6. I'm pretty sure the LS6 goes down the same line as the LS1 and the truck V8s - unlike, say, the BMW S62 from the M5 that's hand-built. In horsepower-per-dollar terms (and horsepower-per-pound, and horsepower-per-cubic-foot-of-space-needed) the LS6 is a bargain.
Reading the GM press release, there's a lot of new bits in the car, and everything from the cooling system to the exhaust system to the axle shafts and driveshaft are probably 25-60% more expensive than the base CTS parts especially considering the smaller production volumes. The transmission is more expensive (though GM got the T56 price down far enough to use it in $27K Camarobirds, so it ought not be too pricey), the big Brembo brakes are probably a $2500/unit increment all by themselves. The wheels/tires whatever you think of their appearance (personally, I think they're great - understated, thankfully NOT chromed - I find the M3 wheels too busy) probably add $400/unit. All those model-specific exterior and interior bits are going to be more expensive in 2000-unit production quantities than the base CTS bits are in 20000-unit orders. And so forth.
Z06 is about 3300lb. The US M5 curb weight specs at 4024lb but BMW there's some dispute as to what that number includes.
Isn't this news what most of us have been waiting for for most of the year?
I would have expected 30-40 posts today.
We must be getting jaded.
That said, the CTSv seems to be, in every other respect, a very nice package. It's got exactly the mechanical spec I'd have asked for if I were nailing together a sedan out of the GM parts bins.
It's got the right engine, the right transmission, the gearing looks good (assuming trans ratios similar to past T56s), they didn't cheese out and skip the limited slip diff like Jag and Mercedes have done. The chassis is right (at least on paper), it's got enough tire (though they didn't go to staggered wheel sizes like the Germans), it's got a whole lot of brake (maybe best in class.) That comment in the press release about having a trackday setting in the Stabilitrak is interesting.
They've at least got the mechanical spec to a point where I might consider one, despite the shape. I hope the seats are as good as BMW's, and that they got the chassis tuning right, and that they price it reasonably.
Started breaking studs after twenty laps on the Nordschleife?
I can't imagine that the CTSv shares hubs or rotors with a pickup.
The only other 'passenger car' I can think of that uses six-lug wheels is the Viper.
jemiller,
Care to explain this: "they didn't cheese out and skip the limited slip diff like Jag and Mercedes
have done." I'm aware the S-Type R doesn't have one, but which Mercedes are you talking about?
M
A month ago, I bought the Sable Black/Ebony Lux Sport with about everything except the Nav system. Added matching window tinting. Buddies commented that it looks like what Batman would choose for the Batmobile if he had another chance. Haven't had a car that draws so much attention since I had a candy apple red 62 Impala convertible in Tokyo in the 60s.
I think it was ctsjerry who talked about driving his in Colorado. I took mine on a short trip into the mountains from Colorado Springs last weekend. Performed great! I got the automatic so the wife can drive it... Right!... Like I'm ever gonna let that happen. As great as the automatic does in the mountains, my mind was full of thoughts of shifting a manual through the winding mountain curves.
Still... I love it! I'm too old to wait for more power or other improvements. I'll take what it has now and trade for a new one if I'm lucky enough to be ripping through the gears when a better one is available. Cheers!
this discussion group is a great read and was very instrumental in my decision-making steps... from comments about service bulletins, MSRPs, appearance upkeep, and on and on and on... an excellent forum to say the least...
I can't offer any additional feedback or observations about the car other than what has already been posted (glovebox, seat belts, lumbar, etc.) but I've advanced from "lurker" to "contributor"...
one question though: I had the black interior in the Eldo but went with the tan for the CTS... I have been very fastedious (sp?) about wiping my shoes before getting in the car but the floor mat is starting to show some evidence of (dare I say?) dirt where my shoe heel comes in contact with the mat near the accelerator pedal... any suggestions on mat cleaning or better yet preventive maintenance?
God Bless each and every CTS owner...
Let me tell you, this car is just so...wow...in the mountains. Coming up the mountain I was passing everyone, coming down the other side, there was a newer Porsche 911 and I fighting for supremacy. Don't tell any LEOs, but coming down from Berthoud Pass (about 11,000 feet), I was following a Subaru Outback at about 30 mph. In the passing zone, I pulled out, rocketed up to about 90, passed, pulled in, modulated the brakes, and took a sharp 90-degree, off-camber right turn at over 65. The car completely shrugged it off. The Porsche and I dueled a bit down the mountain until we hit I-70, he ran it up to 100, and I decided that discretion was the better part of valor, and gave up.
It was much fun, though.
In the background you can almost see the engine.