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BMW 5-Series Tires and Wheels

jeffwilsonjeffwilson Posts: 45
I have my 2002 530i CPO in for a service and my advisor said that I need 4 new tires. I just got the car (with NEW tires!) 18,000 miles ago and I had snows on for around 5,000 miles. He said that the standard BMW tires (I am not sure which are on mine, sorry) usually get "around 18-20,000 miles) and the ones on the 7 series get around 12,000!! Is this possible? I have never had tires that got less than around 45-50,000 miles. I told him that I would get some on my own, but want to know if I am getting jerked around. Shouldn't I get a lot more than 13,000 miles on these tires? Thanks for any feeedback...I appreciate your thoughts...


  • shiposhipo Posts: 9,152
    If your 530i has the Sport Package, then 13,000 miles is a little thin, but not unprecedented. My 2002 530i SP was turned in at lease end with about 18,000 miles on its original tires (I used winter tires on that car as well), and they were just good enough to pass inspection (i.e. 5mm of tread or more). That having been said, my previous BMW didn't have the SP (meaning that it came with All-Season tires instead of Summer only performance rubber), and when I turned it in the tires had about 45,000 miles on them with an easy 15,000 to go.

    Thinking about your situation a little, it seems logical that the original owner had to put new tires on your car to be able to pass inspection (either that or pay BMW some outrageous amount for them to put tires on it). So, just prior to turn in, he/she put on the cheapest tires they could find in that size and those are the "NEW" tires that you got with your car.

    Looking into my crystal ball I see that you have a date with so that you can do a little tire research and pick a better set of skins for this next go-around. ;-)

    Best Regards,
  • jeffwilsonjeffwilson Posts: 45

    Thanks for the comments. But the tires were put on by BMW, not the owner. So I KNOW they are new. ALso, I do not have the Sport package. So I am back to thiking something is up....

    Thanks again....

  • srfastsrfast Posts: 138
    What brand were the tires? What is your driving style? I have 22,000 miles on BFG KDW tires mounted on my 2003 530i/SP and there is plently of tread left. I drive a mix of highway/city miles. I do not drive aggressively (I save that for the track & race car), but I don't drive like grandma either. BTW, is the wear on your tires even?

  • jeffwilsonjeffwilson Posts: 45
    I checked and I have Pirelli P6 M+S tires. I always had a high opinion of Pirelli, but if they are going to last 15,000 miles or so, I will never buy them again. I believe that BMW does not warranty their tires, so I won't even get any money back for such short wear! Next time, Michelin! Thanks for everyone's comments...
  • bdkinnhbdkinnh Posts: 292
    I was recently at the dealer getting a new set of tires put on, and they told me that they suggest an alignment every time tires are swapped. My car has around 12K miles, so I didn't think an alignment was necessary. They said that changing tires could change the alignment; I thought that alignments were done with the tires removed, and were generally independent of the tires.

    Are they right, or did I get hosed?
  • 530ir1150r530ir1150r Posts: 263
    I always have my BMW aligned when replacing the tires. I also have them rotated and balanced with every oil change at 7500 miles.

    To jeffwilson:

    Pirelli tires were not original equipment as far as I know. What the service advisor meant when he said new tires and what you heard are probably two different things. What was the mileage when you purchased the car, the original tires probably lasted approximately 35,000 miles.
  • jeffwilsonjeffwilson Posts: 45
    Actually, no. He specifically said that they were replaced when the car was CPO-ed. He said that 13,00 isn't that unusual and that I wouldn't get more than 18,000. He said 12,000 is NORMAL on the 7 series!
  • markcincinnatimarkcincinnati Posts: 5,343
    These tires, hopefully, are summer only tires that are at the VERY LEAST UHP rated (and at least Z speed rated) -- and, if all this is the case, a MAXIMUM of 20,000 would be expected. In almost any case, it seems like 15,000 would be the miniumum to get to 2/32s.

    My wife's TT tires lasted 11,000 and Audi picked up $800 as a remedy for ultra short tire wear.

    Generally, tho, the UHP or Max Performance tires IF they are Summer ONLY will give great handling but they are very soft and very short lived, as a result.

    It makes no sense to me, were I the dealer, to put tires of THIS much softness on the car -- knowing this could be one possible outcome.

    HP all seasons seem to be the German way these days. My personal choice would be UHP all seasons were I in a moderate snow climate. Of course, the best is to use single purpose tires and change them in winter and back again in spring.
  • 530ir1150r530ir1150r Posts: 263
    Check Tirerack's evaluations and hope the next set will wear normally.
  • cecil03cecil03 Posts: 1
    I don't have a BMW but a 03 Volvo AWD with original Pirelli P6 235/45R17 tires with over 66K miles on them. I drive back roads and also highway 50/50 with no issues. I am researching new tires and am considering getting new P6's since mine performed so well but have heard lots of bad things from 03 Volvos too. Mine seem like the exception. Also looking at bridgestone Potenza RE960AS tires but they are new so I can't find feedback yet.
  • I have the opportunity to purchase a new set of tires and wheels from a 2004 X5, but not certain if they will fit my 1998 528i. I was wondering if someone might have some insight to this question.

  • shiposhipo Posts: 9,152
    I believe that they are a different offset. Sorry.

    Best Regards,
  • Dang! After posting message, I did some poking around and it appears you are correct Shipo. Thanks for you time and reply. Guess I'll have to keep looking.

  • kelfkelf Posts: 83
    Thinking about replacing original Cont. Touring 225 55 R16. Is the 95 V rating important? Some of the tire places either say we do no have that, but we have lower or higher rating? Any specific tire suggestions?
  • kelfkelf Posts: 83
    Are there legitimate tire ratings and forums ( outside of Consumer Reports)?
  • rsdarchrsdarch Posts: 3
    Help. I have a 2006 530xi with sport suspension. Really made a mistake because I live in Manhattan and the potholes are killing my tires. 3 flats in the last 6 weeks. Each time I get a flat I need to take it to BMW. I never know which tire is flat and the sensor needs to be reset. I have a donut and want to put all-seasons on, but BMW says they won't be any better_ also low profile. I then asked if I could put 16" rims on, but no one seems to know the answer to that. One guy said that if I make any change to the tire or rim the sensor will stay on all the time. These run-flats have the obvious benefit of letting you drive after the flat, but what's the point if you can't figure out which tire has gone and you need to pay BMW prices everytime it goes flat. Has anyone had a similar experience? Any advice?
  • dleone99dleone99 Posts: 1
    I have a 2003 530i with deep dish wheels. To give it a more sporty look, I'd like to put on Eibach 25mm spacers on all four tires. Any body have experience with these?
  • stickyfeetstickyfeet Posts: 11
    we are 4 mo into a 36 mo lease. the factory wheels are pretty hard to keep clean due to accumulations of brake dust. my dealer suggested the use of "wheel wax" which does help but i don't wish to have to wax the wheels every two weeks just to keep them clean. does anyone have a better suggestion?
  • shiposhipo Posts: 9,152
    Go out and buy some PBR/Axxis Deluxe Plus pads and have them mounted. At four months you shouldn't have any issues with the rotors.

    I hope this helps. ;-)

    Best Regards,
  • roadburnerroadburner Posts: 10,633
    does anyone have a better suggestion?

    What Shipo said. It's a dead easy DIY procedure, and inexpensive as well.

    Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport / 2014 M235i / 1999 Wrangler / 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica Wife's: 2016 i3 REX/2009 Cooper Clubman Son's: 2009 328i

  • ny540i6ny540i6 Posts: 518
    Just easing back into the forums after a loooong layoff...

    I must be doin' it wrong - my 03' 540 now has 114K miles on the clock, and tires are not a concern at all. I use dedicated snows, on a set of Borbet wheels; I've had 2 sets of snow tires. I changed the first (Blizzaks)more for "I wanted different" than because they were worn out, and the second set I expect to get another winter out of... I put the snows on in Nov-Dec, and take 'em off in Mar-Apr.

    The rest of the time the summer wheels (OEM M-parallels) are on the car. I was happy with the original Contis, but changed to the excellent but ugly :D Michelin PS2. I got about 24K out of the rears before they started looking like slicks... very cool until it rained lolol. I am now running Goodyears (GSDs) I've had these on for about 25K. I just replaced the front pair, because of a darn sidewall puncture, but I was thinking of doing it anyway, because the Goodyears get noisy with age, however there was still a lot of useable tread left.

    Point of all my rambling? It is possible to run these cars and run them hard on high performance rubber, and still get more than 10k out of a set.

    On another note... I sure wish I could be one of the folks who only drive the things 12K a year, but...
  • To Pat, Karen, and the more knowlagable posters: I have an 06' 530i with the sport package. Can you guys recommend wheel manufacturers that offer strong, durable, alloy wheels, that are comparable in weight to the OEM style #124's (I think) :blush: that are priced in the 2k$ range, and will be compatable with the veh. FTM system, since I will still be using runflat tires.

  • patpat Posts: 10,421
    I think your hosts will hang back and let your fellow posters give you some suggestions since we are just, um, hosts. :)
  • roadburnerroadburner Posts: 10,633

    Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport / 2014 M235i / 1999 Wrangler / 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica Wife's: 2016 i3 REX/2009 Cooper Clubman Son's: 2009 328i

  • ny540i6ny540i6 Posts: 518
    Thought I had posted this before, so if it shows up twice at some point, I apologize:

    I am a big fan of BBS wheels, and I also like Borbets. I've also owned sets of OZ Racing. I've never had any issues with these manufacturers in terms of fitment, finish quality, hubcentricity or balance. I am not a big fan of chrome, so I can't offer any history on some of the more popular shiny stuff
  • I have the same car 530xi with the sport package, both front tires have bubbles on them. I am scheduled to goto the dealer on Thursday but I am very dissapointed as he said they are not responsible for tires. The car creaks everytime I hit a bump in the road or go up my driveway. Runflats suck and the lowprofile tires are junk. :confuse:
  • roadburnerroadburner Posts: 10,633
    I have the same car 530xi with the sport package, both front tires have bubbles on them. I am scheduled to goto the dealer on Thursday but I am very dissapointed as he said they are not responsible for tires.

    How many miles do you have on the car? Sidewall bubbles are usually indicative of damage caused by hitting a pothole or similar, so I'm not surprised that the dealer is balking- especially if you have 5k or more miles on the odometer.

    Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport / 2014 M235i / 1999 Wrangler / 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica Wife's: 2016 i3 REX/2009 Cooper Clubman Son's: 2009 328i

  • pen101pen101 Posts: 238
    The car: 2002 530i, 5-speed, SP, 65K miles, plan to keep car for at least another year or two.

    The tires on the car: Michelin PS-2. 3 worn tires with 30K miles, 1 tire with 12K miles at 6/32 (replacement for flat tire).

    Tire in the trunk: Michelin Pilot Primacy, never used

    Option #1: Replace the 3 worn tires with new PS-2 tires

    Option #2: Replace 1 tire with new PS-2, one with new Pilot and use the Pilot from the trunk. Put the PS-2 tires up front and the Pilots in rear. Replace trunk tire with best of the 3 used tires. With this option I only buy 2 tires.

    Which is the recommended option?
    If I do option 2, would the handling of the car be affected in any way? Should the PS-2 tires be up front or in the rear?

    FYI, the PS-2 tires lasted about 30K, the original Pilots I replaced at 36K with probably another 5K to 8K left (was required to put new tires on to purchase as CPO).

    Thanks for your input.
  • shiposhipo Posts: 9,152
    It's probably best if you keep all four tires the same on you're car, so, how about:

    1) Take your best PS-2 and put it in the trunk and then buy three new Pilot Primacys.
    2) Chuck the four worn PS-2s and then buy four new Sumitomo HTR Z IIIs or four new Kumho Ecsta SPT (either set of four can be had for #396 from TireRack).

    BTW, remember to E-Mail me when yer fixin' to sell your car. ;-)

    Best Regards,
  • ny540i6ny540i6 Posts: 518
    What's important to you? Your post indicates to me that you are really not interested in running the 5 to the ragged edge, so I don't really see a reason to spring for the cost of the new PS2. In addition, you could increase tire life significantly, and probably increase road comfort by going with something else.

    As to your options - DO NOT do option 2! Yes, your handling would be affected, and some non-emergency maneuvers could very well escalate to emergencies because of the difference, and unpredictability is not your friend. (Besides - it's really not cool to be driving a $40K plus car with mixed tread...lolol)

    Go back to when you replaced the tires - why did you choose the PS-2s? Again, judging from your post, It looks like tires are not that important to you, so moving away from them should not be a big deal.

    Bit of trivia for you - At some point the spare will be useless - the rubber ages even if not used. I'd consider going with the Pilots, moving the spare into the rotation, and "upgrading" the spare to a used PS-2.

    Or let me put it this way - What Shipo said. lol
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